Need drinking advice (Adult Advice)

[BOBS DAD]

ALL OF US CARE!
You seem so special and vulnerable at the same time.

So we may seem like a bunch of clucking hens gathered around you - trying to tell you what to do or not to do. It is just out of great concern for such a lovely person that we all speak our mind.

Very well put. I just wanted to reiterate your sentiment. YES, we do care. And if I or anybody else sounded condenscending or anything other than concerned for you, I humbly apologize. I remember what Jesus says in the Bible, "remove the board from your own eye before you point out the speck in your brothers (sister)". Best to you!

Dan

[carole]

Johanna i feel i must address your comments, although i would rather let them pass, as this thread is not about YOU or about peoples drinking, it is about king2005 and i think you are reading way too much into my posts completely, if you read my post carefully i have never suggested that everyone cannot stop at a few drinks, but there are only a few IMO that really can, (and that is purely my personal opinion from observations in life)and obviously you are one of them, so why on earth do you have to take offence at anything i have posted is beyond me, i must say i feel a little hurt that you have chosen to do so, i only speak from experience and am only trying to advice king2005 to the best of my knowledge and life experiences,at nearly 50 i do have a few ya know.

King2005 is old enough to not be tempted by anything one might say to make it sound mysterious or whatever as you suggested.

I wanted to add I myself have only seen alcohol abused most of the time,so my comments are a generalisation,not directed at people like yourself, so there is absolutely no need for you to take offence, so please do not turn this thread into a debate about alcohol being evil,although in the wrong hands it is, just look at statistics re drunk drivers, spousal abuse and child abuse and neglect, often you will find alcohol abuse is behind this legal drug, that some do become addicted to,(obviously the first and the others as well)for someone like yourself and family and others it is not a problem,so why so defensive,King2005 does have some alcohol abuse in her family from reading her posts, so my advice to her is why start and take the risk.

This is the second time you have challenged my posts re-drinking the first being Denise who admitted to a drinking problem, again i was there only to help if I could..i think you read way too much into my posts and take them the wrong way,which I understand, but honestly you have got me totally wrong.

Sure I have been on the bad side with the stuff, but hey i remember some jolly good times with alcohol myself,that were fun and enjoyable, i think my experience is that i have been on both sides of the fence and have experienced both the good and bad,(I myself have never had a problem with alcohol, i can take it or leave it)sure wish it was the same for everyone, again i cannot say it enough moderation is the key, something you do, and thats to be applauded, but it is not always the same for everyone else, the young ones, the ones with addictions and those who just plain love to drink to get drunk.and yep there is such a thing as the happy drunk who rarely causes any problems, but they do seem to be far and few inbetween In my experience(and I DO NOT include all young people in this,again this is a generalisation and from what one reads about alcohol affecting young people who binge drink today, of course older ones do to, just wanted to clarify that before someone jumps down my throat ok)

I myself have no problem with people who drink alcohol only those who drink too much and cause pain and suffering to others who donot deserve it, end of story.

let us just continue to offer advice to the best of our knowledge to those who ask, i hate when threads get turned around and become personal, and that is NOT what i intended, so i will apologise to you and anyone else who may have taken it that way,for that is not what i intended ok.

I also think you are way too sensitive over drinking issues, as i probably am too, just an observation. Johanna if you do have any problem with anything i have written feel free to Pm me about it, I am more than happy to talk with you on any subject, this included, I just dont want us going back and forth overtaking this thread, and want to keep it about helping King2005.

[Catty1]

King - you certainly don't have to check in with a counsellor.

Just remember - you ARE an adult now, can choose someone YOU are comfy with(takes a few times, just like getting to know a person), and it's just the two of you - no lawyers or crowds. Just you.

http://www.stopbadtherapy.com/test/therapy.shtml

That's a link you might use IF you want to check out a counsellor - tells you what to look (out) for.

HUGS
Catty1

[carole]

King2005 i get what you are saying about counsellors, but just remember there are good and bad ones out there, it seems you have been unfortunate enough to get a raw deal with them and get the bad ones,maybe you should still consider it but really check out a good counsellor, usually by word of mouth is the best referral, but i know exactly what you mean, went to one myself once and did more harm then good ,anyhow I am pleased to hear you have met someone nice who neither cares whether you drink or not, and that you seem content and happy right now, good luck you deserve some real happiness.

[Cataholic]

Carole- uh, I am not sure why YOU have the 'right' to wax eloquent on the downside of drinking, making it personal to YOUR experiences, yet, chastise ME for doing the same, but from the opposite point of view. And, I might add that you spent about 80% more space ranting about what you claim I was doing, taking time away from King and her issues, than I did. I just pointed out that alcohol is not a necessary demon.

I am not limited, like all of us, to what I can and cannot post. So, keep your tirade against me to yourself, thank you very much. I am not sensitive about my drinking. I like my drinking. What I don't like is someone making anyone that drink some off the wall 'drunk'. That is not the truth. That is not factual. You made the same comment with Denise, and I responded in kind. Big deal. If you did it again, in another thread, I would respond. I don't understand why you are permitted this luxury, but, I am not?

I think it is doing someone a disservice to make it an all or nothing proposition. So, if King has asked for advice, I feel free to give it. From my perspective. Obviously, our opinions differ, that is life.

To me, and to those people I know, drinking is not an issue. In moderation, like most things in life.

[carole]

Johanna I am not even going to waste one more minute of my time responding to you, I am not going to hijack this thread.

King2005 i have pmed you back and am here for you anytime,thank you for confiding in me,my main aim is to offer you support. Take care.

[king2005]

Thank you carole.

[Cataholic]

Johanna I am not even going to waste one more minute of my time responding to you, I am not going to hijack this thread.

Oh, Okay, Carole!

(and, I think you meant, "other than this one last dig, I am not going to waste one more minute of my time"...)