Jail or War?

[RICHARD]

You are too much. Really, too much. Soldier on, our little warrior, soldier on....

Having spoken to Vets from WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Somalia, Bosnia I have found that “little soldiers, soldiering on” are people who are bigger than life.

Those are the people who have gone into combat, be it an ‘illegal war’, ‘police action’ or
‘invasion’ that are doing a job that some us find necessary, just, distasteful or ???????

These people, men and women, heard the ‘drums of war’ sounding and they went to that sound.

I am sure that all of them also heard the sound of their conscience, the fear in their hearts and idea of traveling to a far off place to face off with another human being.. If you are old enough to remember the sound of the sirens that wailed on the last Friday of every month-the tests of the civil defense system-you’d think about the soviet missle that would soon come thundering overhead. Like the old bumpersticker said- One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.

Soldiers watch the news carefully. That little coup, civil war or jets flying into buildings
Bring that same cold feeling into every soldiers heart.

Will I see, in person, that far off place where CNN, Fox, Sky News are telling us about in person?

Please!

We kiss our loved ones in the morning and promise to come back at 5:30 in the afternoon.

Soldiers kiss their loved ones in the morning and promise to come back soon.

When? How?

Intact, a shell of themselves, missing pieces or in an aluminum box?

Winston Churchill said once that there are men out there doing things that we would not do ourselves, so we can sleep in our beds at night without worrying.

There are people who bear arms, travel to a foreign land and try to make a difference, without question, doubt or hesitation.

I admire them because they can set aside their fears and do a job that some of us will not do, cannot do or find to be distasteful.

Then I see someone like Ramsey Clark, American citizen, attorney and lost soul-in Iraq trying to defend a scumbag like Saddam Hussein.

Then things make sense.

Some kid from Midtown, USA who chooses to serve his country as a soldier doesn’t deserve the respect that some b@st@rd dictator gets.


It's funny how we take their service and lives for granted.
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I'll pass on the lawyer joke for the moment.

But I will say that you would like the same respect for your career choice.

The men and women in the service are there because they want to.


I support the troops-no matter what.

And I think we all should.

[RICHARD]

Hey!!

As soon as we give Tookie the needle here in Cah Lee Fuh Nee Ah, there will be room for one more "draft dodger"!!!

[Cataholic]

Richard,
My comments to LH had nothing to do with soldiers and war, and supporting or not supporting it. I have great admiration for our soldiers. I do not have any respect for people that talk down to others, and then hide behind some title- be it soldier, doctor, lawyer, whatever. One can get their point across, as distasteful as some might find it, without insult.

As for lawyer jokes? Bring them on. I don't wear my occupation as a badge of anything other than that which brings in income, supports my family, and holds my interest most of the time.

[Lady's Human]

I swore to myself I was bowing out of this, however:

Cataholic, you were the one who threw the insult. You assumed (remember the line about assuming?) that I was talking to ES as I was because she was a female. Wrong. In doing so, you insulted me personally. I do not hide behind my title. You probably don't even know what my title is, as I don't believe I have ever posted my rank on the board.

[Cataholic]

I swore to myself I was bowing out of this, however:

Cataholic, you were the one who threw the insult. You assumed (remember the line about assuming?) that I was talking to ES as I was because she was a female. Wrong. In doing so, you insulted me personally. I do not hide behind my title. You probably don't even know what my title is, as I don't believe I have ever posted my rank on the board.

It had nothing to do with ES gender. I think that was your sister's assumption. I called your statement about someone not being able to understand something without experiencing it patronizing. That led to your personal attacks, not mine. If that is what rankles your feathers, please, keep away from the guns. Please.

[RICHARD]

Richard,
My comments to LH had nothing to do with soldiers and war, and supporting or not supporting it. I have great admiration for our soldiers. I do not have any respect for people that talk down to others, and then hide behind some title- be it soldier, doctor, lawyer, whatever. One can get their point across, as distasteful as some might find it, without insult.

As for lawyer jokes? Bring them on. I don't wear my occupation as a badge of anything other than that which brings in income, supports my family, and holds my interest most of the time.

Sorry I touched a nerve.

I ain't a dentist or a neurologist.

I'll toss out some one liners for lawyers.

Allred, Meserau, Geragos and Grace.


It's income, money and interest-that about clients????

Geez,

Let's elevate the E.B. soldiers up a little they stick around to clean the mess up.
Lets do a sports analogy....

Game on the line and the ref, ump or official blows a call....

They don't care as long as they get paid.

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Having been shot at once, there is nothing more frightening on the planet.
If it had not been a hunting accident I can assure you that I would have had no second (or first) thought about taking every opportunity to return every shot.
I am going down fighting.

There is something inherently different about trading shots with someone across the way..

Our soldiers are dying because some CS MF SOB Bs are taking bombs and putting them beside a road where soldiers and innocent people are.

Please do not put logic into a statement about killing people...

The United States Government and the "evil b's" that LH referred to are the ones to blame...

So it is O.K. to drive a car with a ton of explosives into a market place where people are trying to live.


Yep, blame the guys in uniforms......

They play by the "rules"..... and when we turn the dogs of war loose we still are a bunch of war mongering, blood thirsty hawks...

The Conservatives laugh when the idea that our soldiers are fighting to keep
'terrorism" from our shores.

Wait until the next terror attack here in the US....You'll pray that those "evil bastards" are vigilant and ready to get that pound of flesh in return.

There are times you have to visit a punk in his neighborhood and let him know that he cannot go into your yard, take a crap on you front porch and stand across the street and laugh about it.

[Lady's Human]

Irescue, Cat, et al....

The only reason you are free to make those statements is the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen who have defended this country from day one. On behalf of a bunch of evil, hate filled killing bastards, You're welcome.

[K9soul]

I really can't answer the poll, because it would depend too much on all the circumstances involved. If I ever did go to war, they'd most likely have to find something else for me to do other than putting a gun in my hand. I may not have the right of it, but I believe there are all kinds of different capacities to serve other than going out and shooting at people.

Anyway, on a side note, I personally feel it is presumptive of anyone to judge another person as evil and deserving of damnation. I feel that is only for God to do.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sorry...I've been gone a few days....we are in Iraq to protect my freedom of speech. Wow....I didn't know my freedom of speech was at risk in Iraq. And I suppose Viet Nam was about my freedom of speech too. That or the ability to get really cheap manicures.

I don't blame the soldiers...I blame the chicken-livered politicans who send them there.

Our soldiers are dying because some politicans LIED to justify a war they had been planning before 9/11 (which did not involve Iraq.)

Iraq was not the punk who "took a crap" in your yard RICHARD. Don't you listen to your president? We are in Iraq because Saddam was a bad guy and we needed to free the Iraqi people from him. No WMD....no connection to Al Queda.

And we are going to teach the Iraqis about freedom of speech....right after we teach them about freedom of the press....right after we bribe them to run positive (but untrue!) stories in the newspaper.

I am put in mind of a slogan from my youth....What if they gave a war and nobody came?

So send the troops to clean up after Katrina and get power and water going there.