AWWW Gemini's 1st pic

[babychicaleek]

i was just asking what i wanted to know then yall DRAGGED it to a NEW subject ok

[Jessika]

i was just asking what i wanted to know then yall DRAGGED it to a NEW subject ok

NOBODY here "dragged" it to a new subject. We're just going on what you tell us.

Getting rid of the male cat is in NO WAY a substitute for spaying the mother after she has her litter. PERIOD. If you think that "getting rid" of the male will solve your problems, you are terribly mistaken.

You say you can't even afford to take care of one cat now, but you have a pregnant mother?? You wouldn't have had that problem in the first place if you would have been a responsible pet owner and did the responsible thing. But now that you have kittens on the way, if you can not provide the mother proper medical care and attention throughout and after her pregnancy, and also vet bills for the kittens, then you really need to think of other alternatives.

Maybe this will be a learning experience for you in the future to get future pets spayed and neutered.

[catnapper]

LOLOL.... more excuses. If anyone knows what its like trying to afford cats when you can barely afford to live yourself, it is me. Lets just say we barely make ends meet each month, and we are seriously in debt up to our eyeballs.... yet I do EVERYTHING in my power to make sure my cats are well taken care of and fed the best possible foods.

I plan for vet visits months in advance and sock away a few dollars here and there for their annual visits. I have friends who help me when they have emergencies, and I repay them as I can. I live on mac-n-cheese and PB&J sandwiches just so I can afford their special food.

Once again, this will be the THIRD time I mention it --- and I'll capitalize it this time so you don't miss it: THERE ARE FREE SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAMS AVAILABLE!!!!

There is NO excuse for not spaying your cat. No excuse for dumping a spraying unneutered male: thats what unneutered males DO. FYI, unneutered males also tend to have a slew of behavioral issues like dominace and aggression. Getting them fixed tends to fix all the issues.

[carole]

I am not sure how old you are, but to come on a pet loving site and to tell us you got rid of the boy cat because he was bad, is disgusting to me, and I am not going to apologise if this makes you feel bad, because if that is what was done then you should feel more than bad, really really horrible, it was up to you and your parents to be responsible and find a decent home for this poor cat, there is no such thing as a bad cat, honestly your post infuriates me and makes my blood boil, no matter how old you are, my daughter is 13 and would never ever contemplate such an act.

I hope you took some of the advice offered to you,because it was good solid advice from experienced people.

[Lisamb]

I don't mean to sound rude but you all attacked this poor person for not doing what "you" think is right. Now I am not saying that what she did was right but everyone has their own opinion. All she did was ask for suggestions on what to do. Maybe she was just looking into it for her own education and her parents have everything under control. She also said that she gave the boy cat to her neighbors and THEY got RID of him because he was bad, not her. How was she to know what they would do, maybe they took him to a no kill shelter you weren't there and you all don't know the whole story. It is comments like these from judgemental people that has made me not come here as much, not everyone but there are a few that make it hard to comment being afraid of being "attacked". Yes those cats should have been fixed, in my opinion, but they weren't. I understand the whole over populated kitty problem and yes it is sad but it is life, and we can all do what we can to help the problem but it will never be fixed, period. Man some people...

[QueenScoopalot]

I feel terribly sad for all the cats involved. I get "rid of" trash...not living breathing animals. Poor tom cat will be a statistic soon.

[catnapper]

It is comments like these from judgemental people that has made me not come here as much, not everyone but there are a few that make it hard to comment being afraid of being "attacked".

Man some people...

That sounds judgemental in itself. If she wanted people to pat her on the back and say "Gee, I'm so sorry you are in this mess honey.." its isn't going to happen here. Truth is she MADE this mess for herself by not spaying her cat. There are way too many people who put their heart and souls into rescuing animals just like her cat because their owners don't provide proper veterinary care or they do not work with their pets when problems arise.

You want comisseration, find a message board where people are ignorant of cat behavior and care. Perhaps a site on rock collecting... but there you might find someone who knows abot cats and would tell you the truth.

Some people... I was thinking that about HER because SHE isn't listening to us. SHE is giving excuse after excuse. Youth is NOT an excuse. Yes, when I was young, I had limited resources but I still took care of my responsibilities. I have a new foster as of last night because my DAUGHTER brought him home. She couldn't bear the thought of him out in the snow.... and she made sure I took him in. I'll say it again: is NOT an excuse, merely a hurtle to overcome.

I am sorry you feel like you'd be attacked for something. Not everyone comes here knowledgable in all things feline. I know I didn't. But I aslso had enough common sense NOT to get my cats pregnant.

[barncat]

At the clear risk of getting my head bitten off....

I think the point has been made that this person has made mistakes in judgement, but she DID come seeking advice and education. Perhaps THAT could be the focus?

She has limited funds and kittens on the way and it is not clear how involved or aware of sensitive pet care her parents are. Maybe helping her LEARN would be good?

If it is a matter of proving I'm on the lines helping cats, well I live with ten cats...all with hard luck stories attached. Both of my dogs are rescues. Only the birds and the bunny were purchased as "premium" pets...and even two of the birds had health issues that were part of the reason the came to me.

I too have kittens that came from nightmares of neglect...Jack who was left behind in an apartment with two other cats and four pit bulls when his owners moved, was rescued by one of my students (who thought he was a she) and turned over to me when the landlord found out about him. Belladonna who was taken too young from her mother by a student and then given to me because she was not able to eat or eliminate. Her siblings were taken by the student's aunt and all died...Bella is going on three now. I often too go without so my animals have what they need. I spent hundreds of dollars to save the life of a stray I saw run over. I can not count the sick ones and the dying I have comforted and tried to bring to any easier life.

These are choices as adults we are free to make.

As a child I used to steal food from the pantry for our animals and vetted them as best I could with the help of my mom and gram. We did not go to thje doctor either but took care of what we could ourselves. Vets and doctors were for accidents. That was the reality for us. It would be wonderful if everyone has the wisdom and funds to make every cat life perfect...It would be wonderful if that were possible for humans too.

With education and guidance maybe someday it might be. It is hard not to blame when you are on the front lines with the victims, but please consider if blaming is going to do anything here except shut the door on learning how to become a responsible pet mom. Is continuing blaming going to accomplish anything except venting frustration at a problem that is way bigger that this young person? I'm not suggesting patting her back for mistakes, but how about helping her learn not to make those mistakes? Isn't that what adults are supposed to do? Or is our compassion for mistakes only for cats?

[AlleyCat]

She also said that she gave the boy cat to her neighbors and THEY got RID of him because he was bad, not her. How was she to know what they would do, maybe they took him to a no kill shelter you weren't there and you all don't know the whole story. It is comments like these from judgemental people that has made me not come here as much, not everyone but there are a few that make it hard to comment being afraid of being "attacked". Yes those cats should have been fixed, in my opinion, but they weren't. I understand the whole over populated kitty problem and yes it is sad but it is life, and we can all do what we can to help the problem but it will never be fixed, period. Man some people...

...Man some people ?? What does that mean ?? Those who have been trying to offer advice on this thread have been doing just that, even if it should come across as judgmental. It's not always intended to sound judgmental, and sometimes that's the only way to get a point across and into someone's head that all of this is irresponsible behavior of the cat owner. You only have 29 posts so I see that you are relatively new to this site. Many of us on here are dedicated to rescue and fostering and "man some people" comments like yours just aren't going to last long here. I was sick to my stomach when I heard that this person "got rid of the boy cat" because as it was said, that male cat was just handed his death sentence.

[Lisamb]

You know if I asked a question and got ripped a new one I wouldn't listen nor would I take any advice(especially if I was young)...all I was saying was there are alot nicer ways to try to educate some one on what you all believe is right.(And my heart goes out to you all that take in rescues and take care of them until they can find a new home, that would be like giving a child away,I for one couldn't do it and I thank you all who do.) I may only have 29 posts but I used to come here everyday sometimes several times a day(stay at home mommy of 2month old and 8 yr old boys) and I myself am an animal lover and I know you all are too. I wasn't pinpointing anyone particular just they way most were reacting, just take peoples feelings into consideration when you are upset and want to "help" them. Do like I do when my 8 yr old is being an 8 yr old, count to 20 (sometimes more ) and then answer.