Jail or War?

**RICHARD** · 11-30-2005, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Curious on what basis you make that statement. Are you personally familiar with every guy who fought in Viet Nam?

The question was "War or Jail". You guys are quite free to follow orders blindly. Me...I want a truthful and sound reason before I go off killing people.

No, I am not familiar with every guy that fought in VN.

But I do know my cousin, who has some hellacious scars across his belly from a place called Khe Sahn. We have talked about war.

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I think that all people who oppose this illegal war should stop paying their taxes, but, if they support the troops, we won't have any money to give them what they need to be safe, stay safe and carry out their mission- "blind soldiers" need bullets and beans, too!

I say give them all my tax money.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

**RICHARD** · 11-30-2005, 08:24 PM

http://www.petoftheday.com/talk/show...08#post1342008

My tax dollars at work!!!!

**Lady's Human** · 11-30-2005, 08:38 PM

ES, If someone in my platoon follows orders blindly, I want them the hell out of the army. There's a difference between blind obedience to orders and having the discipline to follow orders. The modern battlefield is far too complex for mind numbed soldiers. We need thinking soldiers, not automatons.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 11-30-2005, 10:40 PM

What is the difference?

And RICHARD....1912...Woodrow Wilson....Ludlow Massacre....

**Lady's Human** · 11-30-2005, 11:05 PM

ES, there's a huge difference, but it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

**Cataholic** · 12-01-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

ES, there's a huge difference, but it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

Good lord. That is a lovely, patronizing statment. ES- I guess you are just too dumb to understand some things...silly woman.

**Lady's Human** · 12-01-2005, 10:32 PM

Cataholic, that was not patronizing, just fact.

**RICHARD** · 12-01-2005, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

What is the difference?

And RICHARD....1912...Woodrow Wilson....Ludlow Massacre....

Whoa,

It was 1914, and how did Rockefeller, as a mine owner, get the Colorado state governor to send the Nat'l. Guard in?

Me thinks me smells something nasty underfoot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

I read up on it yesterday.....I posted this link but didn't post it correctly.

**catnapper** · 12-01-2005, 01:44 PM

I'd go to war. I realize our country and freedoms need to be protected, and even if I did or did not agree with the reasoning behind any given war, I'd still choose war since I want to be one of the many protecting our freedoms. Some countries wouldn't give you a choice of war vs. jail - they'd just put a gun in your hand and send you to war.

Not only that, but once I return home, I am considered a hero (though this would not be the reasoning behind choosing war over jail) and can proudly dispaly my veteran status on resumes, etc. An ex-con? They are denied jobs for haven been in prison, they are looked down upon as deadbeats of society. No thanks - I'll be the hero who upholds our freedoms and protects those freedoms.

Now that said, would I join the military tomorrow to go to war? Not on your life!

I am too much a wimp - I mourn over a squashed bug. I could never witness death, and could never inflict death myself. But given those two choices, I choose war.