Those are just two of many cases of mass surrender or complete mutiny.
And how many cases are there of a whole lot of people getting killed before it was over? More than two?

I can see the guys from Viet Nam being vocally 'Con-War' But, I can assure you that they would willingly bear arms again should it come down to it.
Curious on what basis you make that statement. Are you personally familiar with every guy who fought in Viet Nam?

The question was "War or Jail". You guys are quite free to follow orders blindly. Me...I want a truthful and sound reason before I go off killing people.