I think it's way out of line for her to be having that many children, so, we're even. There's no way she can afford them all - she's got to be getting handouts, which means my taxes are paying for it on some level
I think it's way out of line for her to be having that many children, so, we're even. There's no way she can afford them all - she's got to be getting handouts, which means my taxes are paying for it on some level
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but, that's not necessarily true. We don't know their financial situation, or maybe it stated it in an article that I missed. There are a lot of unknowns in the situation, and, it just seems a bit harsh and hateful to just assume they're mooching off the government and our tax dollars.Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
Good gosh...some of you are WAY out of line.While I personally wouldn't ever want to have that many children...if that's what the family LIKES, who are we to say they're wrong? I don't believe a single penny from our tax money goes to them anyway. They are building a 7,000 sq ft house...obviously have the money to do so. All of the children looked well behaved, well dressed, and obviously, well taken care of. I wouldn't ever want that many kids. I do know that in certain cases, lots of siblings are a blessing. My dad comes from a family of 8, and my mom, 7. That was pretty normal 40-50 years ago...a lot of people had that many kids. Its not that common NOW...and of course 7-8 doesn't compare with 16, but still. Its not for me, but if they're happy and taking their responsibility seriously, then that's good for them. Who are we to judge their decision and think badly of them because of it?? Sure they might be different...and we might think its crazy...BUT, if they're happy with it and caring for all of those children, then that's good for them, and we have no right to condemn them for it. Its very possible that they are raising good, level-headed children, and that each and every one of those children will be a huge contribution to our society when they grow up. Who are we to judge??? Sheesh...calm down.
If you watch the video, completely, on CNN, you certainly can't walk away thinking that these folks are on any kind of welfare at all!!! They are building a 7000 sq ft house. Welfare does NOT afford this kind of thing and I happen to believe that they are doing something that the rest of us could learn from about budgeting, putting responsibility on our kids, etc. Although I could not function as a homeschooler to one, let alone 16, I think these folks definitely have "got it together" as a family unit. I don't think one dime of my tax money is going to support them after reading what I have, for sure.
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Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
A. This is Pet Talk, be polite.
B. You do not know the family's financial situation, so have no cause to assume you are paying for any of her children's care. And if you are solely basing it that way, just think - all of those kids will be working adults some day, and contributing their tax dollars and maybe social security contributions to pay for your retirement! It cuts both ways.
I am moving this thread to the Dog House.
That's sad that you have to do that, but, I agree it's gotten to that point. That stinks.Originally Posted by Karen
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
Last I heard they were not living on welfare at all. In fact, they don't even use credit. If they can't pay cash, they don't buy it.
I don't know if they're still that way, but a few months ago I watched a special on TLC about them, and that's how they ran their lives.
Pretty good, if you ask me.![]()
I don't think anyone should be so harsh to a family that they don't even really know. I understand opinions, but plain out mean is another thing.
They have the right to have 16 kids. God Blessed them with all these kids and they seem to be doing a good job at raising these kids.
I have never heard that they were on any government program either. Maybe they come from wealthy familys, and are settled money wise.
Each domination has their own system of beliefs. So I respect theirs.
Just my opinion.
Sorry to let you in on this, but by the time I'm retired, Social Security won't exist anymore.
I think it's totally irresponsible, and it should NOT be encouraged in any way shape or form.
I won't back down on my opinion either. You're all entitled to yours, by all means. This sort of thing just REALLY gets me angry.
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That is your opinion, and thats great, but you can express it in a normal way. There is no reason to be a raging fanatic about it.Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
I'm not saying you should back down on your opinion. At all. I respect that you think she's had too many kids. But, it's the way you were saying you didn't like it because she was abusing welfare, and, there's nothing saying that she is. And, there's a difference in being angry and speaking calmly and being angry and nasty. I can't speak for anyone else, but, I was just confused at why you were being so nasty in expressing your opinion. Again, I respect your opinion, completely. I wouldn't want you to back down. But, if it's welfare moms that piss you off, that doesn't appear to be the case here.Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
It may not exist by the time I retire either, but in any case, they will be taxpeyrs when you are ready to retire, and so will be supporting the government that will, in all likelihood, be contributing some to your well-being, whether or not it is called Social Security at that time. Civilzation my well fall completely apart, sure, but I'm betting against that happening.Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
Anger can be always expressed, as well as any differences of opinion, in a civil manner. Civlity is generally prefered here on Pet Talk.
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