thanks for the link Pam. thankfully siberians aren't too prone to bloat. i'm still careful with Gracie simply because her great grandfather died of Bloat. sorry for your losses. i would hate to lose a dog to bloat.

IRescue452, i have always admired the doberman. i think they are a wonderful breed. i saw a doberman the other day and noticed it had a deep chest so i thought i'd ask.