Darn, I tried to search for that other thread so I could copy and paste some of my training comments, but it looks like someone deleted it. I wrote out a lot of long posts on there, so I'm kind of disappointed. A lot of what I said is along the lines of what Candy was saying. I can retype everything, I just don't have the time right this minute.

I think a lot of trainers (especially older ones) use intimidation tactics. They do get results, but positive reinforcement gets results as well (along with strengthening the bond and keeping the dog's mental health in tact). The positive reinforcement exercises I teach do take a little longer for leash walking for some dogs. I think a lot of people turn to chokes/prongs because they don't have the time or patience for anything else. That was not directed at anyone here, but it is often the case of people in my classes.

I personally would steer clear of any "trainer" that FORCES her methods onto me. That is just narrow-minded. People who are willing to change their mind as studies are done, and admit when they are wrong are much better suited to train dogs. Every dog is different and methods do need to be constantly adapted to each individual.

I know you'll do whats best for your dogs, Audrey. You need to do what you feel comfortable with and what you feel is safe and right for your babies. I am against certain methods, but I hope you don't take it as a personal attack or anything. I'd trust you with any of my own dogs Oh yeah, and I will write out what I wrote in the other thread again soon.. hopefully later this afternoon/evening.