Suki Wingy I feel exactly as you do, completely exasperated by this thread and the people who keep coming back and defending it and Canada, actually I can say this honestly, I would NOT defend my country if it were doing this, or anything else, I would be the first to jump in and stand up against it.

There is nothing wrong with genuine loyalty to one's country, but when it goes beyond my beliefs, that can go out the window as far as I am concerned.

You can bash my country as much as you like, if it is condoning cruelty to animals, or doing anything that is considered abhorrent to others,I would explain why my country does this, and then tell you how I felt about it and why.

For goodness sake Lizbud change the title of this thread, then maybe it will apease those who have their nose's out of joint so much.

For those of you who are new here, Pet Talk is a wonderful place, there are controversial subjects which are discussed, and often become a debate, mostly it is done with maturity, but emotions do run high sometimes and feelings get hurt, IMO this thread has not got out of hand, for those who's opinions differ from mine, fine with me, I just have to continue with mine too, as I am concerned with the welfare of the seals, not about a few people who choose to take this so personally and change the whole thread completely. again it is not about YOU, it is about the darn SEALS.

I don't believe in sending nasty PM'S , anything I have to say , I say here. I am not ashamed of anything I have written in my posts, nor do I feel I owe anyone an apology, I am just getting oh so tired of seeing this thread become something it is NOT.