Can this really be true?

[LKPike]

Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
Sorry IRescue452, but this comment just turned me off. If you don't like it here, there's no one stopping you from leaving

don't be rude. some of us really AREN'T allowed to leave, so don't assume everyone can, when you tell them to.

I'll pick Germany over america any day because thats where my heart is, and I believe its a thousand times better than America, but I'm sure you can say the same about the country you call home. The only thing worse to me than the fact that I cannot escape this "Great Country!" of yours for a couple more YEARS, is people like you that think its just that d@mn easy and feel the need to rub it in our [[people like me that ARE actually trying to get out of this country]] faces in your childish arguments with the comment "if you don't like it, then leave!". Have you ever tried to just "..Leave!"? its rude to me and all the others going through the Actual struggle of trying to just "Leave!".

Believe me, If I were allowed to, I'd be on the very first plane back to MY home, *right now*.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by LKPike
Have you ever tried to just "..Leave!"? its rude to me and all the others going through the Actual struggle of trying to just "Leave!".

It is kinda hard to leave, I don't have a passport.

[LKPike]

Originally posted by RICHARD
It is kinda hard to leave, I don't have a passport.

$80 and you wait a month. however it doesnt do me much good, when I have only 5-6 months to spend legally in my country, before I have to come back to "great" america.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by LKPike
$80 and you wait a month. however it doesnt do me much good, when I have only 5-6 months to spend legally in my country, before I have to come back to "great" america.

Well,

It really isn't the 'great' place we all think it is...but you have to admit we have given the world some really groovy stuff....

Tang, velcro, television and Disneyland...Not to mention Tomahawk cruise missles, JDAMs and F-117 planes..

[LKPike]

Originally posted by RICHARD
Well,

It really isn't the 'great' place we all think it is...but you have to admit we have given the world some really groovy stuff....

Tang, velcro, television and Disneyland...Not to mention Tomahawk cruise missles, JDAMs and F-117 planes..

lol its fine to look at it like that, I'm not bashing America or Americans or anything that they 'gave us'. I can't stay here because I'm not comfortable here, I'm in Germany as often as I can.
I don't like the lifestyle, I don't like the language, 5 churchs and 6 mcdonalds on 1 street, its just not Home for me. My mom wants to move back to Germany too, which would probably make it easier for me to "just leave". but after her ex-husband she developed agoraphobia. Good luck getting her to walk 8 feet away from her house, its impossible to even think of her on a plane

[lbaker]

There are other countries and a private train car can help agoraphobia suffering people. I have heard of "having the cake and eating it too" but it sounds like your licking the icing bowl clean then complaining of a tummy ache.

[LKPike]

Originally posted by lbaker
There are other countries and a private train car can help agoraphobia suffering people.

????? I don't see how that does ANY good when the agoraphobic person can't even leave their front door????

[lbaker]

If the house were on fire you would manage, would you not?

[LKPike]

Originally posted by lbaker
If the house were on fire you would manage, would you not?

I'd manage because I'm not agoraphobic. I don't think you really understand the disease.

[lbaker]

I don't think you really understand America and the American people. I mean no personal offense and certainly don't want to start anything. I apologise if I sound a bit testy.

[LKPike]

Originally posted by lbaker
I don't think you really understand America and the American people. I mean no personal offense and certainly don't want to start anything. I apologise if I sound a bit testy.

LOL Yeah, I can't apologize enough for my family moving to America in 1965, I can't apologize enough for my mother raising me the same way she was raised, and the same way my grandmother was raised, my greatgrandmother, my greatgreatgrandmother, - German.

But I've lived here 17 years. Get real, Find another person to argue with, over real issues.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by LKPike

I don't like the lifestyle, I don't like the language, 5 churchs and 6 mcdonalds on 1 street, its just not Home for me. My mom wants to move back to Germany too, which would probably make it easier for me to "just leave"

As hosts to people from other countries it doesn't give us a great feeling when our "guests" stay in our home and then relate to us that they are not happy here.

Most people would be amazed that there can be 5 churches and 6 Mc donalds on one street.

That is the real evil America.......freedom of religion, capitalism and the Lady that stands in the New York harbor....welcoming the world to her doorstep.

When my dad showed up at America's doorstep he taught us to be thankful that we live where we do.

And he also taught us that as a guest of this country, years before he became a citizen, that he may not have agreed with what America was all about, He also taught us to be gracious, as a guest of the U.S.

[Cataholic]

Originally posted by LKPike
$80 and you wait a month. however it doesnt do me much good, when I have only 5-6 months to spend legally in my country, before I have to come back to "great" america.

I don't understand. Why can't you leave? Are you a US citizen? I don't really get all hung up that you don't like it here. I mean, I don't take it as a personal affront to all things American. But, if I was truly unhappy somewhere, I would leave. So, could you educate me as to WHY you can't just leave?

[gini]

Oh boy, I rarely do this.............but I feel I must............

I was born here..........long time ago..........in a small town in Ohio.

I LOVE MY COUNTRY!!

Not just a little --- but PASSIONATELY!

No, we don't have it all nailed down and perfect..........but we try...........and we welcome people from all over the world who are willing to try as well.

Let me think - well, no, there aren't six McD's on my block or even six churches...........but within easy walking distance there are several Christian churches, a mosque, a temple - I could take my pick of several religions. We all manage to get along.

McD's - yes - there are those along with Carls's Jr. and Bob's Big Boy and a dozen pizza shops - take your pick.

Life style? How about I lead my life style according to my beliefs, and allow you the FREEDOM to live your life style as you choose.
If you have ever traveled around this beautiful country you will encounter so many different life styles your head will spin.

Let's see - I can go shopping and the corner grocery store is run by Pakistani's- the 7-11 is run by people from India. They made a huge improvement - the store is now glistening and clean.
Around the other corner the big grocery store is run by Koreans............or the other larger store - a chain - has someone from a different country at each check-out stand.

Wait, you don't speak English? Let us help you - we will teach you in your native tongue and English. Please don't lose your heritage - it is something to be proud of. Some of the schools have a total of 59 different languages..........yes, that number is correct.

We welcome them all....................

You have a great new idea for a product or service - go for it..........we will encourage you - help you financially and support you.

Whenever I see license plates that say 'I LOVE __________ (fill in the country), I do get upset. You have complete FREEDOM to love that country, but I wonder WHY ARE YOU HERE? Something not quite right back home?

Nope, we don't have it down to perfect yet - and many things are a mess - but we have the FREEDOM to complain - vote out the guys/gals who made the mess in the first place and hopefully get it right.

It means I have to get off my duff - pull myself away from the computer and VOTE and GET INVOLVED. That is what I do as just one person in hopes that I can help make it better.

My family came from Germany in 1856 - never heard one word about any of them going back...............they stayed here - worked hard - made a lot of contributions in hopes that with their new found FREEDOM they could make a difference and they have. I am proud of that heritage - I am strong - because they were too -and they gave me that legacy.

I as a woman, can own my own home, run my own business, do as I please............and I AM GRATEFUL. Each and every single day I am grateful that I was born an American.

Now, the fact that a young woman's miscarriage cost her $18,000. is still an outrage in my mind. Our healthcare system needs to be corrected - overhauled - made more affordable - get the lawyers out of it - and let Doctor's practice their calling as ethically and honestly as they can and make a decent living doing just that.

But even with our failings - I don't plan on moving out of this country any time soon - no, it is my RIGHT to try to make it better for the generations to come.

(gets off soapbox)

[lizbud]

Originally posted by Cataholic
I don't understand. Why can't you leave? Are you a US citizen? I don't really get all hung up that you don't like it here. I mean, I don't take it as a personal affront to all things American. But, if I was truly unhappy somewhere, I would leave. So, could you educate me as to WHY you can't just leave?

This is pretty much how I feel too. After all, it's your mother who
is the agoraphobic, not you. If you are that miserable and you're
an adult, why not? Just curious.