tortuga55, I have agreed with alot of stuff u have said. I do have some different points of views on some things, but for the most part we see some what eye to eye.

Humans have done wrong to the planet & saddly we need to fix it.

Humans r just lucky that we can try to fix our problems.


Oh & if anyont thinks that shooting an animal will cause less pain, is wrong.

If u have shot or seen animals being shot, u will know that most, will start bouncing about. Remember with a gun, ur further away & once its bouncing around u usually cannot get another shot in.

So if clubbing is a faster death then most guns, how is it cruel again?

With a club ur able to make sure its dead right away. with a gun, u have no idea, just because its down, doesn't mean its dead.

Remember that u cannot use too large of a cal. of gun on a seal or it'll make the kill a complete waste. the skin, meat, everything will be useless.