I think one needs to get over the idea this thread is canadian bashing, if I saw a thread titled shame on NZ, I would be in there seeing what it is all about, and I can say this in all honesty, if it was something that concerned animal welfare of any kind, I would be the one doing the posting with exactly that title.

This thread IMO is merely pointing out the obvious, that the canadian government is ok with clubbing baby seals to death, IMO that is cruel, and whether I was canadian or not I would be opposing it period.

From what I have seen and heard about Canada it is indeed a beautiful country blessed with less crime than most big countries, still does not mean it does not have its dark side, lets face it all countries have skeletons hidden in the closet so to speak.(including my own, that I am NOT proud of), there are things my government will do that will make me less proud to say I am a New Zealander,fact of life, but I would be the first to stand up and say so.

The previous poster does point out some very interesting and genuine facts, we do all contribute to the downfall of our world in some way or another , be it small or large.