Originally posted by wolf_Q
Little pinchy prongs biting into your flesh everytime you make a wrong move?

From what I heard I really did not think it was painful...just a little uncomfortable...

If you use the pinch collar you better have it for the remainder of his life because he won't know what is expected when he isn't wearing the collar.

I honestly don't think I would need it for very long...I was never planning on using it for anything other then teaching him not to jump and bite at other dogs so badly!

If the prong collar is not up around the ears and high on the muscle part of the neck then it can cause damage to the throat. Most people (not saying you are one of them) do not position these types of collars properly to get the effect they were originally intended to create! It can be painful as opposed to uncomfortable if it is not used correctly. I would prefer to use positive methods instead of taking the chance.

Just a little on my background. When I first started training dogs over 25 years ago the pop and choke method (choke chains ie.. negative reinforcement) was what everyone was doing. Basically it was considered the Koehler method of dog training. Now positive reinforcement is the chosen method of most trainers because you build a better relationship with your dog in the long run and the dog understands and is accountable for their behavior more. Karen Pryor revolutionized the dog training world with clicker training! There is no comparison in the two methods. They are as night and day from each other as dogs and cats are!

I personally would prefer to have my dog understand when I do this...she is happy and I get rewarded instead of if I do this I am going to get a choke or pinch!

Ultimately the choice is yours. I am just offering my opinion as someone who has done it both ways!

I guess my point about having it forever was that Nebo will be just reacting to not getting pinched instead of really understanding that he gets rewarded when his behavior is not lunging for other dogs.

I do use only a flat collar on my dogs and they respond very well.

Please understand that I realize there are some dogs who have to be trained this way but it should only be done on very tough and demanding situations. I do not believe Nebo fits into that catagory.

Again just my opinion!