thank you Karen, we will indeed, they have been swimming in the ocean today, so it must have been warm enough for that,and off to mini golf and hitting the theme parks tomorrow, movieworld i believe, melissa is looking forward one ride in particular, we call it the freefall in nz, and it is only 18 stories high, but in oz it is 39 stories high and falls to the ground in five seconds, eewh, that sure sounds scarey to me. lol