Thanks everyone, mum is doing pretty well considering, she feels more like it has flared up her sciatica, and that is a possibility,we had xmas dinner out this year and she handled that very well, i saw another lady in a wheel chair there, who was much older than my mother with her nose all stitched up and i was thinking i bet the poor old dear had a fall, so mum did not do too badly really, kim i hope your mother is healing well too,so all in all she is recovering well and not doing too bad, all your prayers and good wishes are indeed helping, cheers.