Dog Races

[Kfamr]

Originally posted by sammy101
Kay-that dog is beautiful in your picture,do you know if he got adopted??

Isn't she? That picture was taken in March, and I have not seen her since then, so i'm sure she got adopted. Fortunately, that shelter is a no-kill, but there are many which aren't.

[KYS]

I am not informed on racing conditions etc.

Is this a respected organization or are they printing
un-truths?

Greyhound protection league

http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/entry.html

[greysandmoregreys]

I really don't feel the need to get into a P*ssing match with you. But please let me point out a few minor flaws in your statements.

Greyhounds don't hit the tracks until they are 18 months old. Sure there are a few that will go to the tracks at the age of 15 or 16 months old but those are few and far.

You don't know if the dog can run until it is running against the competition at the track so how would you decied at the age of 12months old that they are no good?

Heck they just start training at 12 months old.

The discription of the retired racers that you talk about just doesn't quite make sence either. Not calling you a lier but it just doesn't seem to add up.

If the dog went to the track she would have been on hormones. Kinda like the birth control pills. So if she was at the track for even a couple of months she would have been like 20 months old.

Then when they come off the track they don't go right into season. So say it takes a few months for them to come into season.

So now she's 22- 24 months old. So now she's two. She is then bred and that is a 63 justation period. Another two months pass for her to have her pups. Now she is around 2yrs 2months old. Now she has to be with those pups for another 2 months for the pups to nurse. Now she's 2yrs 4 months old.

Now the breeder of this dog has no clue how her pups are going to turn out as racers. He/she thought enough about her to breed her why would he just dump her off at the pound/shelter?


Oh and about the DUH part on your post. Very classy

If you would take another look at my post you will see that I was fixing my error while you were posting your ever so nice comment

I'm human and make errors.

As far as saying "until there are no longer "owners" like such"

Well hell, we could say that about people that adopt any animal.

Until there are no more adopters that won't abandon, abuse, starve, mistreat, there pets then we won't adopt out animals and all should be put down. Kinda sad huh?

Doesn't make a difference to me if you like greyhound racing, aprove of it, hate it or love it.

To each there own, Just sharing my tid bit of information from the inside

Originally posted by Kfamr
Maybe because it was cold out.
They rarely move at the shelter. And when they try, it's VERY hard for them. They all come with their "racing names"... all at around the age of 1-2. If their owners honestly cared about them they wouldn't dump them off at the shelter, they'd keep them and love them even if they can't race anymore.

I've even met a "retired racer" who as her description was raced, then when "she couldn't race any longer" was bred many times she was dumped at the shelter. All at the age of 2 years.
That's really a loving owner, huh?
NO. I'm not saying all greyhound owners an people who race them are like that, but until there are no longer "owners" like such I don't approve of the "sport".


YES... DUH. That's why I said that it was one of the many THAT I SAW AT THE SHELTER.
And it's there because it was dumped off like property.
I took the picture, i've been around many "retired racers"

[sammy101]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Isn't she? That picture was taken in March, and I have not seen her since then, so i'm sure she got adopted. Fortunately, that shelter is a no-kill, but there are many which aren't.

oh thats good! i wish all shelters were no-kill

[Kfamr]

In no way am I lying aobut what i've posted. That's what i've read off of MANY shelter info pages for the greys.

I even spoke to a lady once, who had a gorgeous brindle male Grey. She had rescued him and he was a retired racer. I spoke to her for a very long time about the racing issue, and as a greyhound lover she disapproved of the "sport" 100%.

Like I said, not ALL greyhounds are treated like yours are.

As far as my post being "Very classy", I thought the same of you spewing off at us and calling us ignorant in your very first when you know absolutely NOTHING about anyone on this board.
There are MANY people on this board to volunteer and spend their lives at shelters and know first hand what happens to they retired racers.

I never said you didn't make errors, but the way you responded to me was the same exact thing you recieved.


I'd love to see each and every breed of dog out of the shelter.
Greyhounds and Pit Bulls make up a majority of the pure bred dogs in the shelter I visit often. Each and everyone of them comes with a heartbreaking and disgusting story.



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Yeah, Jess, I think ya right.

[greysandmoregreys]

Yes Cali came over to another message board and mentioned what was going on over here

I'm not here to upset anyone just wanted to shed a bit of light from another point of view.

I've had all sorts of other pets through out my life. I've owned a GSD that came from a shelter, I've taken in every type of unwanted animal you can imagine.

I love all animals, big and small, short and tall, hair and no hair.

Makes no difference to me. They all deserve good homes that love them, care for the, and treat them the best that a human can treat an animal.

Greyhounds make wonderful pets. There are so many misinformation about greyhounds it's sad

Greyhounds don't need a lot of exercise. There content to lay around and sleep most of the day away.

You don't need a fenced in yard to have a greyhound. They do just fine taking walks.

Most greyhounds are safe with small animals and children

Greyhounds are some of the healthiest dogs around because they are athletes for the first few years they are in good shape, good heart, lungs, no hip dysplasia like so many other breeds of dogs.

Greyhounds shed very little and are know to do well for people who are alergic to most other dogs. Because of there low body fat they don't tend to have the dander that other dogs have

Greyhounds don't take up a lot of space. They can curle up into a tiny ball and fit three to a normal size couch. Ask me I know I have six that let me share there house with them

I could go on and on about how wonderful these dogs are but I will stop there for now

[Kfamr]

May I have a link to this other board so that I can look around?

I don't believe anyone here is misinformed about the breed.
I myself love the breed...I love all breeds. I think they are one of the most gorgeous breeds. Many have said that on of my dogs looks to be part grey.

[greysandmoregreys]

OK let me introduce myself,
My name is Heather and I live in Gulfport,Mississippi

I volunteer for GPA LA also have helped out GFGC, GRR, Greyhound Crossroads in SC

All of which are greyhound adoption groups.

Just last week I went to the local H.S. and picked up a whippet and brought it to one of the local greyhound adoption groups. Also picked up two adopted greyhounds from a home that the people no longer wanted and they left them tied outside, on an over head run, with choke chains on.

I don't know Cali other than a post on another message board.

Just trying to put out some first hand information.

Take it for what it is or leave it. Makes no difference to me

Originally posted by K9soul
I'm guessing "greysandmoregreys" is one of Cali's friends recruited over here to dispell the stupid myth of mistreated and ill used greyhounds.

Come to think of it the spelling in this sentence looks awfully similar to Cali's

[greysandmoregreys]

The other board is:
greytalk

This is a greyhound board filled with greyhound adopters, some breeder, many greyhound adoption groups are on this board, some racing peps, and some people who have no greyhound just love the breed.

Please take a look and see what is really going on

Sorry one more thing, Take a look under cute and funny you will see some of the best pictures around.

Also I go by the same user name over there

[Karen]

Welcome to Pet Talks, greysandmore! Everyone here wishes that there were NO bad owners, of greyhounds or other animals. That there was no need for animal shelters, other than a a brief resting place between good owners. That no dog was ever neglected, no cat dumped, no domesticated rabbit let loose to "make it in the wild," and on and on.

Just wanted to make that clear. We've all come from many different perspectives, backgrounds, nationalities, political stripes (or spots) and had many different experiences, and what we do have in common is the love of animals.

Are your greyhounds "leaners?" I've met one that was a serious "glad to meet you, now let me sit on your foot and lean on you"-type - but he had been off the racetrack and in a home for several years at that point.

[Kfamr]

Thanks for giving me that link.
It's nice to see what they're saying about us, since they know absolutely nothing aobut any of us!

Especially this:

Ummm.... I see absolutly no grey pets there... all other pooch pics. They obviously are talking out of their *eyes* (nice).

Since no one who has posted yet, doesn't own a Grey, it obviously means we know nothing, right?

[Uabassoon]

This is what I don't understand. Let's assume that everything you say is right. And that greyhounds live happy racetrack lives and so on. To me it just seems wrong that a person would breed an animal for profit, then once it's done making a profit they hand it over to a rescue for someone else to take care of so they can do it all over again.

[greysandmoregreys]

I have six hounds

As I've said before there is good and bad in everything.

There are people out there that race there dogs for no money. It's called coursing.

I've been a greyhound trainer, I know many greyhound trainers. We love these dogs. There is just no way not to.

Yes there are bad people, yes dogs get put down. I never said and never will say that this doesn't happen.

It's just not wide spread as some believe. that's all

Four of my six came straight from the race track. Warm loving dogs scared of nothing. Yes there were things that they didn't know about. Stairs for one thing but how many dogs are born and raised in a home that doesn't have stairs? lots

My GSD at 6 months old had never had a collar on her, never knew what a leash was, didn't know stairs, didn't understand that humans were good and nice, warm and loving.

It can and does happen to every breed out there. sad

[greysandmoregreys]

Responsable breeding and placement is what each and every breeder should do.

Breed only good quality to good quality and then make sure that there is a program set up for you to find the dogs homes.

Some in the greyhound industy do this some do not

When you say hand them over to rescue for someone to take care of.

Greyhound owners have tried to place the dogs themselves. Often the adoption groups frown on this because the breeder didn't do a home vistit, didn't do things properly like an adoption group would.

Some owners pay for everything for the hound to find it's forever home and some don't. Some pay part some don't.

The reason I send the dogs that I own to adoption groups is that they are darn good at what they do. Better than I would be.
I've tried to do the placements myself and don't seem to do a very good job.

Originally posted by Uabassoon
This is what I don't understand. Let's assume that everything you say is right. And that greyhounds live happy racetrack lives and so on. To me it just seems wrong that a person would breed an animal for profit, then once it's done making a profit they hand it over to a rescue for someone else to take care of so they can do it all over again.

[Kfamr]

The thing I don't get is... why breed a dog, race it, then when it no longer can race -- get rid of it?

Do people not get attached to these dogs, love these dogs? Why would they want to get rid of them?

It's just like the idiots who breed Pits, fight them, then if they lose they dump them to die if not already dead. I don't think anything could be AS bad as that, but IMO very similar.

I depise people getting "rid" of dogs unless it's for a VERY good reason, such a they aren't capable of taking care of themselves, let alone another life.