Milo and Otis- What a HORRIBLE movie!!!!

[Corinna]

Thanks Jessica I was just going to explain about movie making too.
Please we are all strong opinions here. It can be disconcerting if you don't know how they do things in the movies.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by K9soul
Well I have not seen Milo and Otis, but I think both sides of the argument are getting more intense than need be . I'd understand if it looked bad that you would feel upset, but maybe the best way to go about it is to really research more into the making of that movie? I don't really know how possible that is.

On another note, I have seen how they can take like a cat batting at a kitty toy on like a blue background, then somehow blend it in with another animal and background and in the end, it looks amazingly real and like the cat is batting at the other animal.

I don't say this because I want to prove you're wrong, but because I hate seeing you so upset. It could be it really isn't what it appears like, but if you really feel strongly that it is, perhaps you could try doing more research or questioning about how those scenes were done?

Again, I haven't seen the movie, so I'm just going off of conjecture here, but I have seen a lot of animal movies that really looked questionable and later some special will come on like on Animal planet and they will show how they really did some of those things.

You know I would have NO problem with you proving me wrong, in fact I would love it, because then I would love to know they weren't hurt. Even IF some of the scenes were done with special effects, I still do not believe in some of things that were done, as in the animals giving birth, the animals not being neutered and sniffing eachothers private when the female cat is obviously in heat etc. Those are all things I don't agree with and would rather not see in a movie, especially when we are trying to teach our children not to bring more animals into this world.

And Karen, JFYI, it does not say none of the animals in film were harmed. Here is what it states:

"The animals used were filmed under strict supervision with the utmost concern for their handling."

Doesn't mention anything about none of them being harmed, and we all know that even with the most watchful eyes there is always a chance of something going wrong, and until their movie states none of the animals were harmed, I won't watch it again, period.

[K9soul]

I think the best way is to do what Jordan did, if you have questions on how something was done, look into it, research it. You could probably tell somewhat by even the budget of the movie for that day and age how much effects might have been used. If you find out there weren't, then you have every right to dislike it if you find what was done seems unnecessary or cruel or negligent.

Having not done research or even seen the movie, I can't make any judgement on it. I do hate to think of animals being frightened or having bad experiences. I also hate seeing folks on here upset and arguing and getting sharp with each other. We just have to try to respect others' opinions, on both sides.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I dont want to get in a fight with anyone here, but I think that the animals were being neglected in that movie, people shouldent have a kitten romping around a bear and then falling down a river. it is rediculas, and then at the end when the females have puppies and kittens, thats just sickening.. I wanted to barf, I cant believe they would breed these pugs, and then tape them giving birth in dirt. It is just wrong. The cats look like kittens that bred and birthed kittens .. I didnt like the movie at all. It really bothered me.

That's one of the things that bugged me the most, was the birthing part. Especially now in this age when some stupid person might see that part and go, "Oh, I want to breed my orange and white tabby cat too!" Ta da! There you go, nine more kittens added to the world.

Not to mention them showing the cats sniffing eachother's vaginas etc. That is not something I want to see in a movie. All the cats were just regular mixed breed kittens. Otis, if you all didn't notice also has a cataract in his eye. I sure hope he wasn't used as a breeder, considering he's obviously not neutered.

[K9soul]

On another note, now that I think about it, a lot of children's movies with animals, both animated and regular, show the dogs/cats having babies at the end. It kind of does give the message to kids that it's normal and a cool thing to happen.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by K9soul
I think the best way is to do what Jordan did, if you have questions on how something was done, look into it, research it. You could probably tell somewhat by even the budget of the movie for that day and age how much effects might have been used. If you find out there weren't, then you have every right to dislike it if you find what was done seems unnecessary or cruel or negligent.

Having not done research or even seen the movie, I can't make any judgement on it. I do hate to think of animals being frightened or having bad experiences. I also hate seeing folks on here upset and arguing and getting sharp with each other. We just have to try to respect others' opinions, on both sides.

Thanks K9Soul. I am sorry if I became snippy, but this is something I do not tolerate, at all. I don't like animals in pain, being neglected, freightened etc. For the record, there are special effects in this movie, but there are still some things I dislike about this movie, the most being the animal breeding. It trulty disgusts me. Of course, I have no idea what their values over there are at all.

But I apologize if I became snippy.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by Corinna
Thanks Jessica I was just going to explain about movie making too.
Please we are all strong opinions here. It can be disconcerting if you don't know how they do things in the movies.

I believed I mentioned Dan went to film school for four years learning how to make movies, so I know how they are done. In fact, one of the things I want to do when I go back to school is take a special effects class.

[slleipnir]

I loved this movie. I haven't seen it since I was a child, but I doubt this movie would have been so popular if they abused the animals. You should watch the end credits and at the end they put a 'No animals were harmed in the making of this film' thingie. I saw a movie once and I could have sworn what the did to this horse was real cause it looks amazingly real. So I waited till the end of the credits to see it was one of those stuffed things..can't remember the name of them..I don't believe that they hurt any animals in it.

[ramanth]

Originally posted by luckies4me
That's one of the things that bugged me the most, was the birthing part. Especially now in this age when some stupid person might see that part and go, "Oh, I want to breed my orange and white tabby cat too!" Ta da! There you go, nine more kittens added to the world.

Lots of movies do that... ie Beethoven's 2nd and Snow Dogs.

Not saying it's right, but that's where a parent should step in and say that's not right and not the norm. No way would an intact St. Bernard wait till he finds the perfect female St. Bernard to have puppies with. Still, the movie is cute.

I'm sure the animals did do their own stunts. Were any hurt? I don't know. So I'm not going to judge. You can contact the American Humane Association and tell them your concerns. I'm sure they'd investigate and put out their review.

[luckies4me]

Originally posted by slleipnir
I loved this movie. I haven't seen it since I was a child, but I doubt this movie would have been so popular if they abused the animals. You should watch the end credits and at the end they put a 'No animals were harmed in the making of this film' thingie. I saw a movie once and I could have sworn what the did to this horse was real cause it looks amazingly real. So I waited till the end of the credits to see it was one of those stuffed things..can't remember the name of them..I don't believe that they hurt any animals in it.

Sorry, your wrong about the end of the film. This is what it says at the end, NOTHING is mentioned about none of the animals being harmed:

"The animals used were filmed under strict supervision with the utmost concern for their handling."

[slleipnir]

I never said it was, I said you should look to see...

[luckies4me]

Go here and scroll down to Milo and Otis:

http://www.luftworld.com/Satellite/THBBM/981207.htm

Seems, I'm not the only one who thinks this way.....

[carole]

I saw this movie when it first came out as well, and to be honest I thought it was good, as I assumed none of the animals were hurt in this film and were trained actors, but I did not give it a lot of thought, I understand what you are saying cass, and to a point I agree with you, no animal should be put in danger or hurt just to make a film and satisfy human beings for entertainment,, I would be the first one to be up in arms if that were the case.

Researching it fully is probably a good idea, I would be interested to see just how all the scenes were made, I often wonder about that, and again assume half of it is not real etc etc, but who really knows except those in the movie at the time.

There is nothing wrong with showing your emotions concerning the care and welfare of animals cass, it is people like you who get things done and changed so our animals can live good lives without abuse, so if you feel strongly enough about it, stand up and say so.

I certainly hope you are proved wrong, and these animals did not suffer in any way during the making of this film, if they did I too would be throwing it in the trash, as a protest if nothing else.

Now calm down cass and take a deep breath count to ten and smile, and thanks for bringing this to our attention, gives one something to think about doesn't it?

[luckies4me]

Well the movie has already proved my thoughts to be correct, as it states at the end of the movie.

[Desert Arabian]

Come on now, stop and think:

Do you think a movie company would actually allow a movie to be made where animals are put in danger where they can get really hurt and die!? Um...yeah...if they want lawsuits up the wazoo. Common sense.

(It's just like the stupid Quizno's commerical with the FAKE dead bird- obviously they wouldn't use a real dead bird because they would be slaughtered with lawsuits.)

Have you ever watched Black Beauty!? Did you see the part when Black Beauty is starved and rail thin!? Do you really think the movie company starved the horse to play that part!? Also, the part when the carrige hitch breaks and Black Beauty gets cut really bad, do you think the actual horse got cut? When Black Beauty fell and skinned his knees, do you really think that the horse skinned its knees!?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the movie- it's a movie- it's fake and none of that stuff really happened.....