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    Two more great responses!

    Two Kitties- I have a simple eggplant recipe:

    cut one large eggplant in thick slices (`3/4")
    coat with flour that has been salted and peppered
    fry until brown in hot vegetagle oil
    arrange the mostly cooked slices on the bottom of a pyrex 8x12 2"tall dish ( or brownie pan, casserole, etc.)
    cover with italian-seasoned tomato sauce
    top with shredded mozzarella, and bake in medium oven until cheese melts (15-20 min)

    Soledad- my thinking is the same. I think awareness of inter-relatedness will eventually erode the cultural and political boundaries that divide people and foster irrational hostilities.

    All carbon-based life forms are related (we all share identical RNA), and there is no evidence that life exists anywhere but here. I hope we don't blow it, because humanity has a higher purpose than being the top of the food chain and multiplying.

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    I just ordered a vegetarian starter kit off a site because I'd really like to learn more and *possibly* become a vegetarian one day...Thanks for all the info in this thread.

    Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]

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    Wonderful Ashley! I got one of those too when I first started out. It will prove very helpful!


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    I usually avoid posting at the "Doghouse", because often controversial discussions lead to nowhere...BUT however this thread is so inspiring different...no hot discussions...it's just as peaceful as the intention of becoming a vegetarian...
    I really like your approach mahayana, and I think this is really the only way to open up the eyes to become a vegetarian...the peacable way!!!

    I am a Vegetarian for some years and I was happy to learn that only from that example my 10-year-old niece made up her mind to become a vegetarian, too...there's no persuasion or threat by cruel pictures etc. needed, instead just be an example...and you've done that wonderfully, Mahayana!

    This is really a good thread!!!
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    (in deep Elvis voice)" Thank you...thank you very much!"

    Binka- please tell us what's in that "starter kit". Does it have alfalfa seeds, and a screen to fit a canning jar lid?

    I've been meaning to mention sprouts, an inexpensive and fun way to get the freshest, best tasting vegetables. And a great addition to the "raw foods diet", another variation on vegetarianism that is appealing in many ways.

    All of life depends on a mysterious process called photosynthesis; when we eat anything, the energy we take from it is the energy of sunlight!

    Just a thought...

    Bisi.cat- I would hope you will share plenty of dietary info with your neice. I doubt that anorexia is any more common in vegetarians than in the general population, but young girls seem to be the ones that hurt their bodies this way.

    The daily requirement of protein our government recommends is about 2 ounces (48 grams?), and growing young people may need more. Also plenty of calcium for those bones! Lots of restrictive diets can cause harm, (I'm thinking now of a sweet slender young man whose religious transformation led him to macrobiotics. He looked like a big marshmallow due to eating so much starch, fat and sugar, before he was hospitalized).

    If she is still eating eggs and dairy, no problem. If not, sufficient green, leafy vegetables for calcium, and sufficient legumes for protein, and a vitamin pill with B vitamins are needed.

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    Originally posted by mahayana
    Binka- please tell us what's in that "starter kit". Does it have alfalfa seeds, and a screen to fit a canning jar lid?
    I'm not sure but I'll be sure to tell you once I receive it.

    Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]

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    "I will come back to the theme of world hunger and our country with most of the world's farmland. Have you ever read Pearl S. Buck's books about famine in China?"

    no I have not. :O I guess I should check them out eh?? kate you too? any book in particular you guys recommend?

    and binka- just out of curiosity, where did you get your veggie starter kit? I know peta has one, and Ive seen a couple others, and a few vegan ones out there too. vegan outreach (link in my sig!) has the best vegan info packs that I've seen.

    all the "starter kits" Ive seen are just like, booklets with info. no seeds. lol though thatd be a great idea! hehe But yeah kate, same here! the info and advice they provide is really wonderful and helpful for beginners.
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    "I would like to see people become more aware and to realize that we are all connected to each other. I think so much could be solved if we realized that what effects another effects us, and that we cannot succeed while others are miserable or failing."


    "my thinking is the same. I think awareness of inter-relatedness will eventually erode the cultural and political boundaries that divide people and foster irrational hostilities.

    All carbon-based life forms are related (we all share identical RNA), and there is no evidence that life exists anywhere but here. I hope we don't blow it, because humanity has a higher purpose than being the top of the food chain and multiplying."

    well said you two, I agree. this reminds me of my environmental science class. each week we have a different topic that we discuss, and last week was about the endangered species act. I learned about how the law is extremely biased, and it holds species such as certain mammals as more desirable and therefore more important to save than say, species of invertebrae. and some people believe that it is a waste of time/money/energy/whatever to worry about saving species that we know little to nothing about. It just makes me so angry. Just because a species of fly doesnt appear to have any benefit to humans, does not deem it unworthy of saving! GRR. Its so selfish and ignorant. I mean first of all, if humans werent here throwing everything off balance we probably wouldnt have so many creatures becoming endangered and extinct. Plus who are we to decide who or what is more worthy of life!?! And secondly, as you two said, everything is linked. The extinction of one species can lead to extinction of another and so on and so on. Not to mention all the other affects it will have on the ecosystem and all that. I mean it just goes on and on. And I remember learning in high school about all these species of carnivorous flowers that are going extinct because they are so highly developed to feed on one kind of insect and when these insects become threatened, so does the flower.

    Oy.
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    What a fantastic thread!

    I am proud of everyone for discussing this topic in a mature, intelligent and un-confrontational manner, given the recent flame wars that have taken place on this board. Can I say, without offending anyone, that I believe that this thread is so peaceful is because we vegetarians generally are at peace with ourselves, with others and with the world around us.

    I think that sums up why we are vegetarians - because we have an invisible connection with the world around us and the creatures in it, human and animal alike. This is how I am able to live harmoniously with a "carnivore" who eats almost no vegetables at all, lol.

    I do not eat white meat or red meat. I do consume some dairy foods, but very little as they tend to make me sick. I also eat some seafood such as prawns and a little fish. Why? Because if I try to be a "perfect" vegetarian, I am more likely to fall off the wagon. If I allow a little "traffic infringement" like eating a little bit of fish, then I quash any desire to go back to the old ways. The desire would not be borne of craving, rather laziness as Australia offers very little in terms of meat alternatives and I hate soy with a passion (except soya sauce, yummy).

    What I have discovered?
    1) Mushrooms are YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY AND MORE YUMMY
    2) There are great vegetarian soups out there. My faves are the Velish series (they are suitable for vegans also) and some of the Campbells vegie varieties. Five minutes prep time is great for those of us who work 50 hour weeks.
    3) My fave meat substitutes are veggie patties. Hungry Jacks makes a disgustingly unhealthy, but delicious, veggie burger. Macca's version is a little lest tasty but much healthier.
    4) Although the supermarkets don't offer much for us vegoes, many restaurants make FANTASTIC veggie dishes
    5) Buy a wok if you don't already have one, stir fry vegies are fantastic
    6) You can still eat heaps of junk food if you are a vegoe, but you are missing out on the number 1 cholesterol source so you are better off than many omnivores.
    7) Slowly, but surely, I am beginning to lose weight and feel healthier. The thing that's slowing it down is the fact, as mentioned above, that I can still eat junk food!
    8) Mmmm, Subway veggie subs

    HAS ANYONE GOT SOME DIET TIPS FOR A VEGETARIAN WHO WANTS MEALS ON THE RUN??

    Why am I a vegitarian?

    I became a vegetarian to save the 80-odd animals that I would have otherwise eaten this year.
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    I became a vegetarian so that I would be another little brick in the ever-growing wall of defence against the rising tide of animal cruetly.

    I became a vegetarian because I think it hypocritial to love animals as I do, yet allow their exploitation and torture.

    I became a vegetarian because I'm of Polish descent, and am deeply ashamed that a death camp like Auschwitz could exist in my family's homelands. I am equally against the "death camps" called abbatoirs that continue to exist in almost every city in the world.

    I became a vegetarian because I see no need to eat something that adds little or no nutritional value to my diet.

    I became a vegatarian because the very thought of eating meat makes me gag.

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    Salutations, IBC!

    That was a great post, very heart-felt and thoughtful!

    It's hard to find peace in a world so full of so many terrible and appalling conditions. If eating a certain way helps, or reminds you to try to help find solutions, i say go for it!

    Many Christians fast one day each week to keep those without any food in their thoughts.

    The comment about living harmoniously with a carnivore made me think how eskimos live with a basically all-meat diet. Humans are certainly adaptible!

    I have spent a lot of time thinking about what a "natural" diet would be, what humans have eaten most of their existence as a species. I think it was mainly raw foods (as we didn't have fire until after the last ice-age), and probably insects as our closest animal relatives eat them. And all vertebrate land animals evolved from fish, fish eat other fish, so seafood is something else our bodies are designed to process.

    What I eat while driving is cucumber slices, those little peeled carrots, apples and bananas, trail-mix type stuff.

    Again, thanks everyone for all the time and thoughtful effort you have spent here.

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    thanksgiving recipe

    I mentioned earlier a recipe friends make every Thanksgiving. This is not their recipe, but one from the internet.

    GLUTEN ROAST
    about 8+ servings
    2 c vital wheat gluten
    1/4 c unhulled sesame tahini or nut butter
    2 tablespoons Nutritional yeast
    2 teaspoons Cumin powder
    1 teaspoon Ground coriander
    1 teaspoon Garlic powder
    1/2 teaspoons Onion powder
    1/2 teaspoons Salt
    1/2 teaspoons Black pepper
    1 cup broth or water
    1 tablespoon organic blackstrap molasses
    3 tablespoons Tamari (soy sauce or Bragg's Amino)
    1 tablespoon Vegetable oil
    1 1/4 cup Additional water
    1/4 c Cider vinegar
    1 tablespoon olive oil or Dairy-free margarine
    1 Clove garlic, sliced in half

    Cut tahini or nut butter into gluten flour. Stir in nutritional yeast, cumin powder, coriander, garlic powder, onion powder, salt and pepper, mixing well.

    Mix tamari and oil with a cup of broth, stir into gluten mix. Knead into a rough ball (about 10 minutes by hand, or 6 minutes in a bread machine or food processor).

    To let the gluten develop, set aside 15-20 minutes (or overnight in the refrigerator, covered or in a large plastic baggie.)

    When ready to cook, place into a slow cooker (crock pot) that has been oiled or sprayed with non-stick spray.

    Mix additional hot water (1 & 1/4 c), molasses and cider vinegar and pour over gluten.

    Top gluten ball with olive oil or margarine and garlic halves.

    Cook covered in slow cooker on low setting for 5-7 hours (It definitely takes the longer time if cold to start with). If it begins to cook dry, add additional water/tamari mix.

    Slice thinly and serve as you would roast beef. Refrigerate in cooking liquid to save, makes great sandwich strips or fajitas or stir-fry pieces.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

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    yum! I cant wait for tofurky tomorrow!!!!!!
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    Thanks! That sounds like something Mike might like. I don't care for black strap molasses and can't STAND soy sauce, so he'll eat it alone!! lol


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    Originally posted by veegan
    yum! I cant wait for tofurky tomorrow!!!!!!
    we had a tofurkey last year. It was pretty good! This year we're just doing all the side dishes.
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    yeah, I went to my friend's house last year, she and her boyfriend are vegan too, and her mom made us tofurky, we had vegan mashed potatoes, and all these other goodies. AND her sister even made us vegan pumpkin pie! it was so good! and they found vegan whipped cream too! but that wasnt too great. haha so anyways, we're doing it again this year, but this year her sister is vegetarian too!
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