Flight 253

[Puckstop31]

I've said it before... I will say it again....

I have been in the same room with this enemy, more than once. I know how they "think". The only way to be really 'safe' is to be VERY not "PC".

[smokey the elder]

I'm concerned that some of the new security restrictions will start impacting peoples' health. What if diabetics can't bring their test kits, insulin and syringes on board? What if someone gets sick in the last hour of the flight and needs to use the bathroom?

Full body scanners containing nitrate detectors (most explosives contain this stuff) already exist and may be the best solution (for now). Certainly, the human error of blowing off the guy's father shows that no matter what kind of machines or high tech toys you have for security, human errors must be taken into account. I just heard this morning that the guy was helped to board without a passport, and they're looking for the person who facilitated that.

[sparks19]

Yes it has changed a bit that you can now bring breastmilk and juice and other things through security and onto the flight. When we flew with Hannah twice before we were allowed liquids you just tell t hem you have them and someone takes you over to the side and basically just shines this little light on the bottle. don't know exactly how that works but it only takes a few seconds and then you go through.

That being said... we don't fly anymore because I just am NOT a good flier anymore. It's one of the very few things that sends me into complete panic attack mode even days before the flight. So now we drive lol.

[pomtzu]

That being said... we don't fly anymore because I just am NOT a good flier anymore. It's one of the very few things that sends me into complete panic attack mode even days before the flight. So now we drive lol.

Glad to see that I'm not the only one!
I never was a good flyer.

[sparks19]

Glad to see that I'm not the only one!
I never was a good flyer.

oddly enough... I used to LOVE to fly. And then I had Hannah and now it scared the bejeebies out of me. when we would fly the last two time days even weeks before the flight I would have nightmares about it, I would FREAK out when the plane started moving and then I would have nightmares about it for weeks afterwards. and still randomly have nightmares about it even when I'm not about to fly anywhere lol.

[pomtzu]

oddly enough... I used to LOVE to fly. And then I had Hannah and now it scared the bejeebies out of me. when we would fly the last two time days even weeks before the flight I would have nightmares about it, I would FREAK out when the plane started moving and then I would have nightmares about it for weeks afterwards. and still randomly have nightmares about it even when I'm not about to fly anywhere lol.

I have to blame it on my best friend who was a stewardess (when they were called that) with American Airlines for many years. She used to tell me some really wicked horror stories about flights she was on. That was enough to keep me off planes. Of course 9/11 sealed the deal permanently. Even my brother who had his pilot's license and flew his own plane for years (he's too old now), won't fly commercially after 9/11.

[caseysmom]

Statistically speaking flying is far and above much safer than driving, I don't understand why people don't look at the numbers.

[smokey the elder]

Dry numbers lose the heavyweight match with one's gut feelings. Just human nature, I suppose.

[pomtzu]

Statistically speaking flying is far and above much safer than driving, I don't understand why people don't look at the numbers.

True - but I just don't like the idea of falling from the sky, or other things too gross to go into here. The closer to the ground I am, the better I like it.

[caseysmom]

Cars are so much more dangerous thats what I don't understand. My friends son is in the hospital with a broken back, neck, skull...from a car...and this type of thing happens all the time but people don't think twice before jumping behind the wheel it just seems kind of funny to me.

[sparks19]

Statistically speaking flying is far and above much safer than driving, I don't understand why people don't look at the numbers.

I'm aware of that but it just doesn't make me feel any better lol. and 99.9% off the time if you swim in the ocean you aren't going to meet up with a shark but I won't do that either LOL

Plus with a car accident you don't really see it coming... it just happens in an instant. but when a plane goes down you have a few moments of complete terror.

I didn't say my fear was rational I don't know WHY it only started after I had Hannah but it's one that I am just not able to overcome at this time without LOTS of alcohol prior to flying lol

[sparks19]

Cars are so much more dangerous thats what I don't understand. My friends son is in the hospital with a broken back, neck, skull...from a car...and this type of thing happens all the time but people don't think twice before jumping behind the wheel it just seems kind of funny to me.

Because it's something you do pretty much everyday or multiple times a day so it just becomes second nature. But how many times a year do you get on a plane?

Now a flight attendant flies practically every single day and they don't think twice about it because it's just second nature for them to be on a plane

[pomtzu]

Cars are so much more dangerous thats what I don't understand. My friends son is in the hospital with a broken back, neck, skull...from a car...and this type of thing happens all the time but people don't think twice before jumping behind the wheel it just seems kind of funny to me.

But "usually" auto accidents are within normal driving distances - not on long distances in which you would fly.
If I travel long distance, I take the train. Sure - it takes longer than a plane - but I'm still close to the ground!

[sparks19]

PLUS when you drive it's usually YOU or someone you trust that is in control. Now of course if an accident happens that's not always in your control but your vehicle is under your control and not in the hands of someone you've never laid eyes on.

and before I started driving on my own and got comfortable with my vehicle... I was a pretty paranoid person in the car.

[Medusa]

PLUS when you drive it's usually YOU or someone you trust that is in control. Now of course if an accident happens that's not always in your control but your vehicle is under your control .

That's the point I was going to make. I'm not afraid to fly, though. Now my fear is terrorism on flights and not actually the flight itself. It's always something. LOL