Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[blue]

Good picture of Obama. but really you should give credit to the NRA.
They love to scare folks into buying more guns by spreading fear. They
laugh all the way to the bank.

Like the media would allow any poor picture of Barry to be published.

As LH pointed out the NRA dosent profit from gun sales.

The NRA, Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership, and Gun Owners of America are profiting from a surge in their memberships because of the news of the next AWB, the talk of higher taxes on ammo, and that first time gun buyers are up 30% to 300% depending on the part of the country reporting.

Very few gun stores are not jacking up their prices due to demand. Impactguns is out of stock on many of the firearms that will fall under the possible coming AWB, they still have the exotics, NFA weapons, and weapons that are simmilar to but not subjected to the last AWB.

If the talk of the new AWB does come to pass, and I see no reason it wont, it still wont affect weapons that fall under the National Firearms Act; ie machine guns, silencers/suppresors, short barrel rifles and all other weapons will all still be legal and taxable. It wont protect you from people with illegal or controlled weapons that are in their possesion. It wont protect you from people who are carrying illegally. Many citizens, maybe not you and yours, will be in more danger because legal firearms will be taken off the streets and out of homes.

[blue]

Just for funnay.

[lizbud]

Just for funnay.

I'm not laughing. Why is a dog in that picture?

[cmayer31]

Isn't this thread a little ray of sunshine .

To preface my post:
- I don't carry a gun with me at all times.
- I'm not afraid of most areas of the city I live in.
- I'm not afraid of a hostile military taking over my house.

- I do carry a small pocket knife with me when I jog.
- I do carry pepper spray, a utility knife, and a hunting knife quite often when I'm alone in the back country, or more than a day's hike/run from the truck.
- I am terrified of the 10 blocks of gang neighborhoods adjacent to where I live.
- In the last 12 months my house has been burglarized 3 times. Luckily without a break-in, just stolen property from the front yard and side yard. The local police were notified and reports taken each time.
- In the last 12 months my truck has been broken into twice including last month when my tail gate was stolen. The local police were notified and reports taken both times.

I own a shotgun that is broken down and stored in its case (An over under style trap gun). I legally target shoot most weekends during the winter for my own personal enjoyment and to keep the gun in good working condition and to keep my skill level up.

I keep two rounds of dove shot within easy reach of my bed and I can assemble the gun in less than a minute. If one of the local thieves finally gets the nerve to break inside the house, and I have time, I will load the gun and make sure it is known that I am armed. The majority of thieves near where I live are petty thieves and migrant workers looking for quick cash. The police are aware of it and try to make a presence at night, but they can't be everywhere at once. The simple notion of a home owner awake and with a gun will, in my opinion, lead to the average petty criminal fleeing the property.

An acquaintance of mine was mugged at 7am a couple of Saturdays ago while jogging around Lake Hodges, he was forced to give up his cell phone and drivers license, the only things he had, at knife point. Until this incedint I never even thought twice about taking Frankie hiking through here in the morning. Now I'm jumping at every sound when I'm near the lake and will probably carry a can of bear spray with me when I hike. It sucks that I have to live with this fear, but again that's how it is now. I'm hearing more and more of these stories as the times become more strained.

Next June I'll be going on my annual camping/back country hiking trip that will include 2-3 days of backpacking. Normally the people I hike with do carry small caliber handguns that are easy to pack and carry. Normally I would never consider carrying a firearm beyond a long rifle or shotgun, but this year I'm seriously considering picking up a pistol or revolver, trigger lock, and small ammo box to take with me on the trip. Maybe I am starting to live in a box of fear, but it isn't unwarranted from my personal experiences and those of people I know personally.

No matter what, gun safety should always come first and if I did have kids in the house I would own a gun safe and not leave a key in the house where it could be found by a kid looking for it. So for me a gun is my right and I choose to protect that right by being a responsible gun owner; same as I'd expect from everyone.

[blue]

I'm not laughing. Why is a dog in that picture?

She was sleeping, I didnt want to wake her. Besides a good dog is part of any Zombie Early Warning System.

[blue]

Normally I would never consider carrying a firearm beyond a long rifle or shotgun, but this year I'm seriously considering picking up a pistol or revolver, trigger lock, and small ammo box to take with me on the trip. Maybe I am starting to live in a box of fear, but it isn't unwarranted from my personal experiences and those of people I know personally.

Good post all in all. I would reconsider firing Dove shot at someone breaking into your home and threatening you, the criminal and his/her lawyer would likely sue you for medical bills and damages.

No matter what, gun safety should always come first and if I did have kids in the house I would own a gun safe and not leave a key in the house where it could be found by a kid looking for it. So for me a gun is my right and I choose to protect that right by being a responsible gun owner; same as I'd expect from everyone.

Since the 2nd Amendment is the law of the land it needs to be taught in public and private schools and should also be on the curriculum for home schoolers, with a firm basis in firearm safety.

And with the President Elects voting record, Ild consider getting that handgun sooner rather then later.

[Cinder & Smoke]

... how 'bout a gun as a medical device....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16207

FDA approves handgun for the handicapped

Single-shot gun designed for those crippled by arthritis,
muscular dystrophy ...


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has accepted a conceptual, ergonomic 9mm handgun —
designed for people crippled by arthritis, muscular dystrophy, or similar conditions
that render them too weak to operate normal handguns — as a Class 1 Medical Device.
The single-shot gun, dubbed the Palm Pistol, is "an adaptive tool
that allows someone otherwise incapable of handling a revolver or semiautomatic weapon
to operate one," said Matthew Carmel of Constitution Arms,
the New Jersey-based company developing the gun.
Thanks to the gun's designation as a medical device,
doctors could eventually write prescriptions for it and then be reimbursed by Medicare.

Full Article at >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28116693/

Good Grief!

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The Latest Version of this Pistol Tail >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28116693/

FDA nixes proposed ‘prescription pistol’

By The AP:
WASHINGTON - It could have been the world's first prescription pistol.
The single-bullet Palm Pistol set the Internet abuzz with speculation that Medicare
might even pay for the elderly and disabled to pack heat.
But on Monday the Food and Drug Administration said the Palm Pistol
doesn't have a shot of being listed as a medical device, and
revoked the registration issued to its inventor only last week.
"The FDA has determined the product is not a medical device," the agency said in a statement.
... FDA spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey said Carmel apparently
got some bad advice from a representative of the agency.
And maybe he should have paid more attention to the fine print on the registration notice.
It said: "Registering ... does not, in any way,
constitute FDA approval of your facility or your devices."
An earlier version of this article reported that the FDA had accepted the Palm Pistol
as a medical device, based on last week's registration.
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Granny, how far can you toss a Hand Grenade?

[Cincy'sMom]

[IMG]
FDA nixes proposed ‘prescription pistol’

By The AP:
WASHINGTON - It could have been the world's first prescription pistol.
The single-bullet Palm Pistol set the Internet abuzz with speculation that Medicare
might even pay for the elderly and disabled to pack heat.
But on Monday the Food and Drug Administration said the Palm Pistol
doesn't have a shot of being listed as a medical device, and
revoked the registration issued to its inventor only last week.
"The FDA has determined the product is not a medical device," the agency said in a statement.
... FDA spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey said Carmel apparently
got some bad advice from a representative of the agency.
And maybe he should have paid more attention to the fine print on the registration notice.
It said: "Registering ... does not, in any way,
constitute FDA approval of your facility or your devices."
An earlier version of this article reported that the FDA had accepted the Palm Pistol
as a medical device, based on last week's registration.
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[B]B]

Great news! I was really afraid we were going to have to start testing the plastics these are made from in our chemistry lab!! AS hard as I am on the chemist's sometimes, I'd hate to arm them with medical devices!!!

[blue]

With all the death medical devices contributes to we really dont need more.



Some here have stated that gun ownership should be curbed due to the deaths of children, when the lives thousands of unborn children are ended yearly with legal medical procedures. It seems to me there are more responsisble gun owners then people not wanting to reproduce, or act responsively. On the large responsible gun owners kill less children.

Keep in mind you do not have the Right to infringe upon the Rights of others, and I have the authority to protect my Rights.

[Fett]

Just for funnay.

Ahhhh.....nothing like 30 round magazines and drums of 7.62x39mm AK ammo to brighten my day. You are indeed ready for the zombie invasion.

[blue]

Ahhhh.....nothing like 30 round magazines and drums of 7.62x39mm AK ammo to brighten my day. You are indeed ready for the zombie invasion.

Ild still like a M2037 for the river gun, that way I can launch flares at the photosensitive zombies.

I asked Santa for one of these, the longer version..

[Puckstop31]

Good post all in all. I would reconsider firing Dove shot at someone breaking into your home and threatening you, the criminal and his/her lawyer would likely sue you for medical bills and damages.

Not in PA, oddly enough... PA, as left as it is now, is very strong on protecting the rights of gun owners who use their weapons in self defence. The wounded criminal has very little right to sue here.

But then again, that is why you empty the magazine.

[Fett]

Ild still like a M2037 for the river gun, that way I can launch flares at the photosensitive zombies.

I asked Santa for one of these, the longer version..

I had one of those longer versions. Sold it off a couple years ago. Hope you can score one from Santa!

[blue]

Love him, hate him, Ted speaks the truth.

Link to video.

[blue]

Source.

GUN OWNERS HELPED OUST SEATTLE MAYOR, SEND MESSAGE, SAYS CCRKBA

For Immediate Release: August 21, 2009

BELLEVUE, WA – Seattle gun owners can take much credit for the ouster of anti-gun Mayor Greg Nickels in this week’s primary election, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said this morning following what amounted to a concession speech at his press conference.

Nickels came in third in the city’s “Top Two” primary, signaling that voters in Seattle were fed up with his bully pulpit style, and perhaps more than anything, his arrogance, said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. No single episode has better underscored that haughtiness than the mayor’s open defiance of Washington State law that denied him the authority to set up the city’s own restrictive gun laws.

“When the mayor announced last year that he would ban legally-carried firearms from city property when he knew it would be contrary to the state’s preemption statute,” Gottlieb recalled, “it made tens of thousands of Seattle gun owners furious. Nickels insulted their intelligence by promising to ban guns by executive order, which is the height of municipal contempt for the rights of citizens under the state Constitution. He literally threw away their votes.”

CCRKBA Projects Director Thomas McKiddie, a West Seattle resident, said he and his gun-owning fellow Seattleites had simply had enough of the mayor’s condescension toward their rights to be safe on city streets, in parks and on other public property.

“I don’t know a single gun owner in Seattle who voted for Nickels,” McKiddie said. “After he threatened an executive order, he lost the nerve to actually issue one because he knew he would lose that fight in court. Instead, he included gun prohibitions in use contracts for the Seattle Center and other venues. He knew a citywide ban would be unenforceable, and his ouster demonstrates that Seattle gun owners were having none of it.”

“We hope this sends a signal to Nickels’ successor,” Gottlieb observed, “that stirring the wrath of gun owners is a mistake. This week’s primary result in Seattle should stand as a warning to other mayors who signed on with New York’s Michael Bloomberg to trample the firearms rights of their constituents.

“Mayors are not monarchs,” Gottlieb concluded. “They are not above the law. Greg Nickels is going to have a long time to think about that, as he watches this election season from the sidelines.”