Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[blue]

Otherwise, we are taking back California, Texas, Nevada and Colorado, Keep Utah and Florida. We don't do well in hurricanes or snow.

BS! Working in construction, Ive come across many Mexicans that do quite well here.

[kitten645]

"Yes We Can-Can what?"


Just for the record, this is what Obama believes "Yes We Can"

"But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been
anything false about hope. For when we have faced down impossible
odds; when we've been told that we're not ready, or that we shouldn't
try, or that we can't, generations of Americans have responded with a
simple creed that sums up the spirit of a people.

Yes we can.

It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the
destiny of a nation.

Yes we can.

It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail
toward freedom through the darkest of nights.

Yes we can.

It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and
pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.

Yes we can.

It was the call of workers who organized; women who reached for the
ballot; a President who chose the moon as our new frontier; and a King who took us to the mountaintop and pointed the way to the Promised Land.

Yes we can to justice and equality. Yes we can to opportunity and
prosperity. Yes we can heal this nation. Yes we can repair this
world. Yes we can.

And so tomorrow, as we take this campaign South and West; as we learn
that the struggles of the textile worker in Spartanburg are not so
different than the plight of the dishwasher in Las Vegas; that the
hopes of the little girl who goes to a crumbling school in Dillon are
the same as the dreams of the boy who learns on the streets of LA; we
will remember that there is something happening in America; that we
are not as divided as our politics suggests; that we are one people;
we are one nation; and together, we will begin the next great chapter
in America's story with three words that will ring from coast to
coast; from sea to shining sea - Yes. We. Can"

I also like a quote from earlier in the speach where he said "We can disagree without being disagreeable." I think that's far better than agreeing to disagree.

[blue]

[blue]

that the
hopes of the little girl who goes to a crumbling school in Dillon are
the same as the dreams of the boy who learns on the streets of LA;

Is this why his daughters go to private schools?

[RICHARD]

Thank you!

"Yes we can" is a pile of warm steaming puckey that only BTB can make happen, because he is a cartoon. What BO believes in, and what he can make happen are two different things.


"Yes we can" is a media/modern phenomenon, the humanity that is thought to have utter the phrase was more worried about being caught and subject to the laws of the day-"Yes we can" was more "Hope we aren't caught".

I want everyone to be able to afford their lifestyles and have enough income to live without worry. Who is the bigger AH? A stupid Am-Mex or the president elect? When he makes things 'happen' PM me, I will publically apologize to you.
All in all, it's just a speech. There has not been one major U.S. Politician that has made any difference in race relations in the past 50 years.

Dude.
YOU have seen the guys that bust arse at the 'site'; They are the 'sign language' workers who shake their heads "yes" and do what is pantomined to them-I remember what a college basketball coach said about athletes that had Hispanic roots. Paraphrased here-"I wish they had more height, They have heart, but aren't tall enough."

BO's riding on the coat tails of any and all movements for equality or human rights is nothing but political horseshiat. It's the same ride the Jackson and Sharpton have taken for the last 25 years. If they were humble and honest about gaining equality for the 'downtrodden', we would not be having this conversation. To pin the hopes on one person to end years of hate and social/race oppression is too funny to even comment on.

I have a better chance of pulling flying monkeys out of my urethra than the incoming president has of making things all 'sugar and spice' after 150 years of stupidity...

What I believe will fill volumes of fiction. I guess I can be president now?

[blue]

"Yes we can" is a media/modern phenomenon, the humanity that is thought to have utter the phrase was more worried about being caught and subject to the laws of the day-"Yes we can" was more "Hope we aren't caught".

From 1972.

[Marigold2]

Some facts to support those horrible racist remarks.,
I am also the granddaughter of immigrants.
I am the daughter of immigrants.
I was an immigrant for over two years.
I bore a child in another land.
My entire family is from another country.
My mother was in concentration camp. I am not a racist, these are the facts below. Hope it's not too confusing.

I am speechless at the racism of this remark. This is deeply offending on so many levels.

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?

Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. Read on...

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://wwwcis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HTML
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid?

[caseysmom]

Marigold, Did you read the full CNN transcript? Lets look at option 10...did you find the information in the transcript? It did not seem out of context to you? Perhaps you are having trouble grasping the quote that this was taken from?

Oh and about 5 of your links are invalid...hope thats not too complicated to comprehend. You really did your homework. Might want to actually read what you cut and paste next time.

[Marigold2]

Oh pooh, yes 10 is a mixup. Tried to do my best but it's late and some of these links are old research. I am not perfect but I do have some good and accurate facts here. You might not like what you read or what it says about humans as a whole but it is not racist and it's not bias. It's just the ugly truth. Wish it wasn't so.

[caseysmom]

Oh pooh, yes 10 is a mixup. Tried to do my best but it's late and some of these links are old research. I am not perfect but I do have some good and accurate facts here. You might not like what you read or what it says about humans as a whole but it is not racist and it's not bias. It's just the ugly truth. Wish it wasn't so.

Its a bunch of B.S. and if you don't realize that I pity you. FIVE of your links are INVALID. The CNN quotes are out of context....give me one thing that is left?

[blue]

Its a bunch of B.S. and if you don't realize that I pity you. FIVE of your links are INVALID. The CNN quotes are out of context....give me one thing that is left?

8 out of the 14 links and points seem to still be valid.

[Lady's Human]

My issue with the comments made by Marigold are simple. The immigration stats cited in the various articles cover illegal immigration, not Mexican illegal immigration.

There are Chinese, Mexican, Salvadoran, Columbian, Kenyan, etc.. illegal immigrants.

It is NOT a problem which lies solely with one country, and to paint it as such is disingenuous at best.

[caseysmom]

8 out of the 14 links and points seem to still be valid.

Honestly can you point me to one? Everything I have found is wrong.

[blue]

Honestly can you point me to one? Everything I have found is wrong.

Then how could you honestly say only 1 was taken out of context?

Please point out how the remaining 8 are false.

[caseysmom]

Then how could you honestly say only 1 was taken out of context?

Please point out how the remaining 8 are false.

Every quote I have looked at from on the CNN site it wrong or out of context. It is being quoted out of context or taken out of context, just saying give me one that we can debate...that you think it valid, because I cannot find one, I am being honest and not trying to be combative at all. Marigold's posts have always been far from factual IMO.

Edited to add, at the time of my original post I found one out of context and 5 bad links. Since then I tried to find one valid and have had no luck. Didn't want to make this a huge homework project on my part!