Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

How spolied and naive we have become....

Well, maybe some of YOU have.....

[lizbud]

Well, maybe some of YOU have.....

You betcha. Some have always been, but only see it in others.

[Puckstop31]

Sigh....


My point was to express that THIS is NOT as bad as it can get. The media has us all in a frenzy, trying to make us think life is horrible. Granted, the economy is not well.... But I assume you still have a roof over your head? Food in your belly? A warm place to sleep?

So YES, we as a people have become spoiled and naive if we really think how we live today is "horrible". What we define as "poverty" here, would be a life of grandeur in a lot of other places on Earth.

[Puckstop31]

You betcha. Some have always been, but only see it in others.

I have and do admit my failures. Frankly, I cherish them. Because I believe that we find our greatest strengths when we overcome failure.

[carole]

Well said.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Sigh....


My point was to express that THIS is NOT as bad as it can get. The media has us all in a frenzy, trying to make us think life is horrible. Granted, the economy is not well.... But I assume you still have a roof over your head? Food in your belly? A warm place to sleep?

So YES, we as a people have become spoiled and naive if we really think how we live today is "horrible". What we define as "poverty" here, would be a life of grandeur in a lot of other places on Earth.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. But the only reason I have a roof over my head is because of my brother. If he hadn't bought my house for me, I'd be homeless. Most of the "extras" I have, he bought for me too: my computer and tv among other things. My disability isn't enough to pay for rent and food and meds and other stuff too.

[carole]

I don't think puck was trying to make light of your situation, i think it was just a comparison to others in third world countries who really live in poverty,in shacks with no running water, sanitation,food,etc etc, if we compare to that, we are living in pure luxury.,that does not mean we don't have empathy for those less well off than ourselves, and yes it can be tough,i struggle on a day to day basis myself, but there really is no comparison to what these poor beggars are living. I count my blessings.

[Edwina's Secretary]

We are in a senseless war...brought to you by lies, lies and more lies. Our reputation as a world leader sullied by the misadventures of a reckless administration that has chipped away at our liberties at home. The confidence of the majority of Americans seriously shaken.

Millions of Americans without medical insurance -- which means without access to adequate medical care in many cases.

Sad that some people only measure how well off we are as a country by material things!

[Lady's Human]

ES, I'm going to keep this mild, again out of respect for the OP.

You have your opinion on the war in Iraq and the war on terror as a whole, but your opinion is just that, your opinion.

Just because you think the war is based on lies doesn't make it so. Just because you think it's senseless doesn't make it so.

Your hatred of the current administration is seriously coloring your judgement.

[lizbud]

ES, I'm going to keep this mild, again out of respect for the OP.

I thought you were removing yourself from the thread out of respect for
the OP? What happened? Why did you feel it was your duty to contradict
another person's opinion? Everybody's opinion should be respected, no?

[Lady's Human]

There's a difference between stating something as opinion and stating something as percieved fact.

The prior statement was mainly in reference to the topic the thread was previously drifting to. There is no such thing as a polite discussion on that particular topic, as tempers tend to flare when the discussion drifts in that direction.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I thought you were removing yourself from the thread out of respect for
the OP? What happened? Why did you feel it was your duty to contradict
another person's opinion? Everybody's opinion should be respected, no?

His hatred of my opinion is certainly coloring his judgement!

I have yet to see him respect any opinion that differs from his own opinion.

That this war is based on anything BUT lies is your opinion LH. Just that. Your opinion. Not fact.

And btw...my hatred is for the actions of this administration - not the administration. You know....hate the sin, love the sinner?

[catland]

Well, as you can see Carole, our reasons for voting for a particular person are quite varied.

What can seem like a forgivable flaw or misstep to one voter can be a deal breaker for another voter.

This is what our politicians have to deal with. Trying to appeal to as many voters as possible without stepping on too many landmines. Statements get taken out of context, and sometimes people hear what they want to hear.

There will never be a "perfect" candidate because all of us have different ideas of what that "perfect" candidate would be. I do not agree with my candidate on every issue, but he didn't do anything that fell into the "dealbreaker" category as far as I was concerned.

[lizbud]

There's a difference between stating something as opinion and stating something as percieved fact.

Facts, as we percieve them, create opinions.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Facts, as we percieve them, create opinions.

Nicely put, Liz. Especially as I was struggling over "perceived facts." I thought a fact to be a fact and a perception to be a perception.

"Perceived Fact" sounds like some kind of double speak to me.