Update on Puddy; she's gone*9/29* see post #421

[Medusa]

Would it be worth getting a reading from Brody's Mum or Nancy?


Just a thought.

HUGS and prayers to you and Puddy.

I did get a reading from Nancy. Very nice lady but she didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know.

[Medusa]

Dr. Lee sounds like a fantastic vet. I hope that it does turn out to be an autoimmune response to the Epogen and not something more serious. As you said, if she returns to the countertop after tomorrow's shot, it's likely you'll have your answer.
I'm glad she is still eating and hanging in there as best she can.



Do you think that Dr. Lee would approve you cutting back on the brushing of her teeth and rinsing of her gums just for now until she gets through this part? I'm just imagining that feeling so lousy can only be harder with having objects and liquids in her mouth. But her dental condition may be serious enough to maintain this routine so only you and Dr. Lee will know what's best. Hopefully she will be back to her old self soon! Prayers going out for you both.

I guess what I should've said is that I'm supposed to brush her teeth daily. I cut back to a couple of times a week for the very reason you mentioned, Lara. I do squirt the Chlorhexadine in her mouth daily, though, because she does have gingivitis and she needs it. I use it myself and it does help, although I'm waking up w/blood in my mouth again, too. The last round of antibiotics cleared it up but after a couple of weeks, it started again, so I'm dealing w/that, too. I haven't been able to get in to see my dr. because of missing so much work and running back and forth w/Puddy but I finished my Rx yesterday, so I'm sure he's going to insist that I see him. Yay.

[slick]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...ng&cid=6644002

Love slick

[Medusa]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...ng&cid=6644002

Love slick

Thank you, Slick, I love this. And thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to think of my Puddy. I used to light candles on this site all the time. Thanx for the reminder.

[Medusa]

After her Epogen injection yesterday, Puddy went underneath my bed, not hers, and stayed there. Finally last night she came out for some fudgesicle but she went right back when she was finished. During the night, I heard what sounded like Puddy running in place. (I have hardwood floors so I hear everything.) She flew and I mean flew out from under the bed as though she was shot out of a cannon, ran into the hallway and peed on the runner. Her litterbox is literally steps away from the runner. I don't know if she couldn't make it or if it was a revenge pee. I had asked Dr. Lee if she could possibly feel sick after the shot, such as humans sometimes do after a flu shot or whatever, and he said that it's doubtful because runners wouldn't be able to take it and then run their races. I'm thinking that she just couldn't make it to her litterbox but then why wouldn't she just have peed under the bed? She peed right in the sink in front of me last week, if you'll recall. Another strange episode in the Puddy saga.

Just a few minutes ago I could hear her meowing upstairs, as though she was calling me. Then she came downstairs, walked around in the kitchen a bit, then went to the basement and walked around, then came back up and paused at the top of the basement stairs, then went upstairs again to her carrier. It's as though she was looking for something. So I thought maybe she wanted breakfast (it's Sunday so I slept in and hadn't fed them Fancy Feast yet), so I fed everyone but she wouldn't come out of her carrier to eat, so I carried her downstairs and she ate quite a bit, then back up to her carrier she went. At least I can see that she has the energy to walk up and down two flights of stairs. LOL

[pomtzu]

She's testing you!
I think she just didn't make it in time to get to the litterbox and wouldn't pee under the bed since this is one of her sleeping spots. She peed in the sink - but she doesn't actually sleep IN the sink, but go try to figure why she did that! And I'd take it as a good sign if she charged out of there like her back side was on fire, and also that she went down the steps on her own. At least she had the energy to do it!
It's stange, but it does sound like she's looking for something, but what? I still have the feeling that it's her advancing age and perhaps some senility that's behind all of it, but I'm no doctor!
Be that as it may, the crew here is still in her corner and saying prayers that things will improve - for BOTH of you!

[slick]

This is a very long thread and I quickly browsed through it.
Forgive me if you've already done this but have you had her read by Nancy?

[Medusa]

This is a very long thread and I quickly browsed through it.
Forgive me if you've already done this but have you had her read by Nancy?

Yes, I have. Very nice lady indeed but she didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know but it was worth a try.

[jennielynn1970]

My one cat, Taz, used to pee in the sink. I had double bowls, and he would stand on the middle part of it, and pee into either side. I'm not sure why he did this, if he started it up at my mom and dad's when they weren't looking (my mother would have had a heart attack), but this was a good 8 years ago, and my one boyfriend lived with me. We were supposed to take turns cleaning the litter boxes (cause he claimed Boris as his own), and he slacked off. It got me ticked off, and I was being stubborn and not cleaning when he was supposed to, but that didn't really help the kitties much. I think it was Taz's way of saying "Stop arguing and just clean my darn potty!"

Although, have to say, even after that, and it was cleaned on a regular, daily basis, he still did that.

So strange.

[Medusa]

My one cat, Taz, used to pee in the sink. I had double bowls, and he would stand on the middle part of it, and pee into either side. I'm not sure why he did this, if he started it up at my mom and dad's when they weren't looking (my mother would have had a heart attack), but this was a good 8 years ago, and my one boyfriend lived with me. We were supposed to take turns cleaning the litter boxes (cause he claimed Boris as his own), and he slacked off. It got me ticked off, and I was being stubborn and not cleaning when he was supposed to, but that didn't really help the kitties much. I think it was Taz's way of saying "Stop arguing and just clean my darn potty!"

Although, have to say, even after that, and it was cleaned on a regular, daily basis, he still did that.

So strange.

Well, she only did it that one time and she did it right in front of me, so I'm not sure what that was about. She has her own litterbox in her own room, the little diva, and I clean it twice a day, so I don't that was an issue, especially since she's exhibited other bizarre behavior. She's one for the books, that's for sure!

[Medusa]

So much for saying that she only peed that one time. Since then she's peed on the hall runner and I walked into my bedroom just now and caught her peeing on the hardwood floor. It was a lot, too. So now she's banned from my bedroom. She's been sleeping under my bed but no more. I honestly don't know what's going on w/her. She can easily make it to her litterbox; I've watched her do it. I don't know if she's senile or sending me a message or what. I think she's just plain miserable. I put a call in to Dr. Lee but he's gone for the day, so he'll call me tomorrow morning. I hate giving her one more med but I'm going to ask him if I can safely put her on Clomicalm. I can tolerate an awful lot but inappropriate peeing really tries my patience. I know she's sick and if she was too weak to make it to the litterbox, no problem. But that isn't the case. I'm at my wits end. Truly.

[jenluckenbach]

To be honest, Clomicalm is to reduce stress (correct?). This does not sound like stress. To me it is either she CANNOT make it to a box or she DOESN'T CARE IF she makes it to a box. Unless she has been a problem pee-er in the past, I would doubt if this is caused by attitude.
For the record, if this is your breaking point, it is legitimate. People, no matter how noble, can only handle so much. You have to honestly ask yourself how much can you take?

I think she's just plain miserable

If she IS miserable, I think you KNOW what you have to do.

I apologize if any of this sounds harsh or heartless, but it is not meant to be. It is life...............

Hugs and prayers are with you now, more than ever.

[Medusa]

Thanx, Jen, I appreciate the encouraging words a lot. You've been a good friend through all of this, all of you have. I'll admit to having a weak moment when I posted this. I was so shocked when I saw her pee like that. She's never done that; she's always been the model cat. The only time she's ever peed outside the box is when she's had a URI and she just went off Zenaquin for a URI, so I doubt that's it. If this was all she was doing, it might be different but the constant sitting on the countertop or sleeping under my bed, not socializing, all of it, it's just too much. It's breaking my heart. I don't want this to be about me; it's about Puddy. I just cannot fathom having her PTS for inappropriate peeing. I've got to have confirmation that she is indeed miserable and doesn't want to go on. Yet, I roasted a chicken w/stuffing for dinner and I took some white meat w/a little broth on it to her and she scurried down those little steps so fast, I could hardly believe it. And she ate almost all of the chicken. That tells me that she still has the will to live.

Clomicalm is for behavior problems, inappropriate urinating being one of them. I just want to be sure that it won't hurt her, given all of her other problems. I'm just sick at heart right now. I cooked that dinner and can't eat any of it. All I do is cry. I've had pets all my life and if I need to have her PTS, this won't be the first time I've done it but it would be the first time that I'll feel that a part of my soul has died, too. I've never loved an animal the way I love Puddy.

[Grace]

I know why she was put on the Epogen, but did she act this way at all before it was started? And it is the only new medication she's on, correct?

Before I would say good bye to her, I would stop the med and see how she is.

[carole]

Mary would inappropriate peeing just be part and parcel of having kidney failure, that is what Puddy has isn't it?

Mary keep loving her as much as you do, just know that part of loving her is knowing when to let her go, so hard with kidney kitty's as one day they are so bad and the next they perk up like Puddy does.

I feel your'e pain and i too will be faced with the same decisions as you further down the track, it makes an already devastating decision just that much harder to make.

You know your'e kitty best and what is for the best,I was thinking though apart from the necessary medications, if it were me i would not add anymore, they could be adding to her problems, you know how many side effects medication can have, and they may not necessarily be making her feel better, just worse, anyhow that is purely my opinion, and it is entirely your right and decision to do what you think is for the best, i am thinking of you and Puddy, take care, and HUGS.