I wasnt going to tell you guys but cant keep it in.

**buttercup132** · 02-19-2006, 08:18 PM

Because they obviously know that she had a problem and knew I was a good owner. Obviously I wasnt wrong if people who work at the shelter helped me and let me adopt another rabbit...

**CagneyDog** · 02-19-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by buttercup132

Because they obviously know that she had a problem and knew I was a good owner. Obviously I wasnt wrong if people who work at the shelter helped me and let me adopt another rabbit...

That isn't true at all. Most of the shelter workers are 16 year olds working their first job. It doesn't mean that what you did isn't wrong.

**buttercup132** · 02-19-2006, 08:42 PM

Ya but none of these people were young they were all around 30 and had all gone to school for vet tech.

**moosmom** · 02-19-2006, 09:45 PM

Normally I try to stay out of heated threads like this. Especially concerning an animal I don't know much about. HOWEVER, this particular comment that Buttercup made about her NEW bunny caught my eye...

He's got some litter issues but we are working on it

If you have time to work on HIS litter issues, WHY couldn't you have worked on Roxy's issues, rather than dumping her at a shelter making her their problem? And why on earth they allowed you to adopt another bunny is beyond my comprehension.

You got alot of great advice from people, yet you decided to take the easy way out. I feel bad for Roxy and hope to God someone sees the good in her and gives her the furrrrever home she deserves.

And yes, if you are living under your mother's roof and under the age of 18, she CAN tell you what to do.

I do hope your new bunny's litter issues are treated. I'd hate to have him meet the same fate Roxy did.

**Catty1** · 02-19-2006, 10:07 PM

ok...Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Did you see that? The scene about the Killer Rabbit that went for everyone's jugular?

Now, that is really extreme, I know. But - just from where I sit - this 15-year-old and her younger sister were physically hurt by Roxy. There are mean rabbits. I have met some. Roxy was one of them.

Remember - Roxy was ALSO a shelter bunny. Perhaps she had been abused? The point is, she would attack, take the intiative. And rabbits are not retrainable as dogs are. Find me a bunny training school if I am wrong.

As I posted earlier - were these girls supposed to keep on getting attacked in cage and out just to make a few people here happy? How much blood and pain would be acceptable? Especially when Roxy was getting worse?

You can be sure a parent was at the shelter when BC took Roxy back and got to adopt another Teddy.

Roxy deserves to live, of course - but should not be living in a family with young children.

JMO

**Kfamr** · 02-19-2006, 10:18 PM

http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/aggression.html

1) Rabbits aren't born mean. Ninety-nine percent of aggressive rabbits have a behavioral problem, not a genetic one. Behavior can be changed, so give your bunny a chance.

**chrissycat21** · 02-19-2006, 10:23 PM

I can't help but reply...

Just two days ago you started a thread asking for help/support with Roxy...(which I did read, just didn't reply to). If you had been very commited to helping her and being a good owner, you would have tried the suggestions given to you.

You were saying on that thread that she just had cage aggression, right? And now your saying that you couldn't walk past her while she was outside of her cage without her lunging at you? Unless I'm reading your posts wrong, your changing your story.

I really wish you had given her another chance and worked with her. I have been in similar situations (although not with rabbits, but with horses. So kind of different) I just hope Roxy finds a good, new home and has a happy life and is not PTS for an owner's mistake.

**wolf_Q** · 02-19-2006, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Catty1

Remember - Roxy was ALSO a shelter bunny. Perhaps she had been abused?

No, she was not. Please check out this thread http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...ight=roxy+baby

last year at this time my baby was born, i didnt know it yet but shes was the families favorite , we had other bunnies that everyone in the family liked, the babies were born and yes i admit it was a mistake but im glad it happened, roxys mother was bred to another bunny and then baby bunnies came,

From what it sounds like to me the mother of Roxy belonged to the family and was purposely bred. Roxy was one of the offspring that they kept. I'm assuming the other rabbits mentioned (mother bunny, donkey, etc.) she had also were given away or taken to a shelter. She has raised Roxy since birth, whatever issues she has certainly did not come from a shelter or previous owner.

**CagneyDog** · 02-19-2006, 10:53 PM

As I posted earlier - were these girls supposed to keep on getting attacked in cage and out just to make a few people here happy? How much blood and pain would be acceptable? Especially when Roxy was getting worse?

She couldn't of been as bad as you and buttercup are making it sound. Afterall, Buttercup managed to put three different outfits on her for her siggy pictures. It hardly seems like there is a lot of blood and pain involved in this situation.

**jesse_3** · 02-20-2006, 02:44 AM

I generally stay out of these types of threads, but two things caught my eye, but have already been pointed out. The one that really confuses me, is that Catty1 tells us that she was a shelter bunny, where did you recieve that information? Buttercup told us that she raised this rabbit...who is telling to truth? A better question is how many lies have been told!?!

I will be praying that Roxy finds a loving home, and I wish you luck with your new rabbit...
Steph and Splinter

**buttercup132** · 02-20-2006, 07:29 AM

Roxy wasnt a shelter bunny she was raised by me.

**Corinna** · 02-20-2006, 09:14 AM

As in all animals species there are time to time "bad blood genes" I raised and showed rabbits for 9 years. In that time I did see about 5-6 bunnies that were just mean. some to the point of killing ever litter they had. I found the Dutch and Netherlands were the most likely to be aggressive. Over bred just as many dog breeds are. I'm glad Roxy is being given a chance in a new home and that a new bunny was there for you.

Teddy is so cute.

**JenBKR** · 02-20-2006, 10:15 AM

I don't want to get involved, but I want to say one thing. I don't know about this particular situation, but I do know that some shelters will let you 'exchange' a pet. When we adopted Roscoe, they told us that if he didn't work out we could bring him back within 30 days or something like that and either give him back or choose another dog. They want to make sure that the new pet fits in well with any other pets and kids/people in the house. Now, I don't know anything about exchanging a pet that was not previously in the shelter, but I would imagine that they would do it. Just IMO. Good luck!

**Miss Z** · 02-20-2006, 12:14 PM

buttercup132, i like you and i don't want to be mean, but maybe you could have spent a little more time trying to help her? I know that it must have been heartbreaking to give her away, and bunny bites don't half hurt

but maybe she could have benefitted a little more from a bit of training. I used to have a bunny named Cookie, and we bought him a little rabbit lead hoping to take him for little walks around the garden and cul-de-sac etc, well, at first he would not have it and would wriggle all the time. When he got older and stronger, he would physically try to tear it off his back and would swear at me in bunny ;anguage and stamp his feet. I didn't want to be cruel forcing him to put it on, but i gradually trained him with it, starting by just putting it on his back without fastening it, then under his belly, and each time doing something extra. It took 2 and a half months to train him fully, and then he really enjoyed going out on his lead. I could never have imagined him like that before i trained him. All i'm saying is it can be done. But, what's done is done, and good luck with Teddy

**My Peanuts** · 02-20-2006, 01:29 PM

Wow how quickly things change. I got yelled at by Buttercup for sticking up for Roxy in the other thread. She told me "For the last time im NOT getting rid of her now!" and that was only 4 days ago!

I hate it when someone has a cute little bunny, puppy, whatever and then when it grows up bad (usually due to how they were raised) they just get rid of it as if it didn't have a soul. This isn't a pair of pants that didn't fit, it's a life! My dog Jimmy was “discarded” after he wasn’t a cute little puppy anymore. I ALWAYS stay out of these threads, but this one is so crazy it makes me so mad. The fact that she adopted another rabbit when she wasn't willing to work with this one is so irresponsible. People need to redefine the definition of "animal lover."