breeding

[Giselle]

Hi there,

I'm concerned when you say you and your breeder don't keep in touch anymore. In general, a responsible, reputable will initiate contact between buyer and his/herself.

Which brings me to my next question, from WHO did you acquire Beenie from???

Almost all the time, a reputable breeder requires ALL pet dogs to be neutered/spayed. The only dogs that are legally entitled to be left intact are show prospects or working dogs in the case of working, herding, etc. breeds. However, I really don't know if you've ever shown Beenie before. You say she's "respects the standard in full". Quite honestly, both my BYB Peke and NGA Greyhound "respect" the standard, but they're not suitable to be bred. "Respecting" the standard and being an outstanding specimen are two totally different things! With many miniaturized breeds, there is usually no better way to "prove" the dog than through conformation. As such, I HIGHLY recommend you contact your breeder and demand him/her to show you the proper way to handle. If your breeder doesn't know how to do this, then I would suggest finding another breeder and/or spay Beenie. If you really want to breed, find a different breeder and keep in contact with this person. Make it known that you wish to show and eventually breed your dog.

In the meantime, do you have a stacked picture of Beenie? Perhaps we could do a little informal judging of her. Also, when we talk about health testing, we're talking Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA testing), Canine Eye Registration Foundation (CERF testing), and/or PennHip, Optigen, etc.

There was another member who had a Boston Terrier on a different forum. She had not tested her dog via OFA, but she still wanted to breed him. A few weeks later, she tested her dog and surprise surprise! Her dog had luxating patellas and was reuiqred to be fixed. I'm very happy that you're taking this all in so graciously and hope that you continue posting and reading.

[LuvGold00]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
With thousdands of homeless animals put to sleep every year, I don't understand why you want to breed. Unless you are a professional, responsible breeder like Sunkist Goldens is. My advice would be to find a good breeder in your area and have your family members buy one if they are so set on that breed.

Thanks.

I agree with everyone, breeding costs way more than you could ever make on selling the offspring. If you are serious about breeding Beenie, why don't you enter her in some shows, or maybe contact another breeder that is active in the show ring, and have them evaluate Beenie, maybe you can even find a mentor.... But I think you'd be best off spaying her and saving some poor little Boston from a shelter.

[beeniesmom]

THANK YOU ALL for the great information and opinions you have provided.

I may not breed Beenie after all.
The intention was not lucrative. I did not expect to make money by breeding her. It was just to have a few more Beenies running around the house. I will keep looking in shelters for another Boston for Beenie to play with. We are not in a hurry to find a friend for her. When one pops up, we'll be there for it.



Thank you again. Even if it was tough reading, I respect all your opinions and appreciate you all.

[LKPike]

I don't see how staying in touch with the breeder would help?

We haven't with Jillian's breeder. Theres nothing for her to tell us that we don't already know as we spoke about the dogs she bred and their history before purchasing J.

She knows J was diagnosed with epilepsy and spayed, she was of course very disappointed, she'd retired her show dogs and bitches which is how I got J [pol] on an unlimited contract to show and possibly breed.


J didn't get epilepsy from her mom or dad, fortunatly. But we pretty much already knew that since: talking about the dalmatians her breeder bred before purchasing her.



You just want more cute little bosties floating around the house, then fostering is a wonderful, responsible decision But I'd also support your decision to breed as long as you were ready financially and emotionally.

[Suki Wingy]

Some awsome posts! I agree, please spay her, it'll be a lot easyer on her and you.

[Giselle]

That's greyt Beeniesmom! I admire your self control and willingness to learn

There are many benefactors to keeping in contact with the original breeder. Especially if the buyer in question is planning to breed. It was also suggested that Beeniesmom should show. If she wished to show her dog, then contact with the original breeder is highly recommended and perhaps essential.

What a lot of people don't realize is that certain lines mature in different time frames or have specific traits that are passed down from generation to generation. Let's just say I was given a show prospect Pekingese. Some Peke lines grow coat MUCH slower than others. If I were given a Peke with a slow growing coat, then the breeder should tell me and this will give me a heads-up on what to expect and how to "glam" the coat to make it more mature-looking (assuming this is no longer a puppy). As well, correct movement is sometimes delayed when a puppy is growing. I've heard of young 6-9 month old pups who move like a pro with the correct rolling gait, whereas other 1-2 year olds still haven't grown into their body yet and are quite "lanky". All these little tidbits will help ensure a quick finish. However, I doubt that most breeders can cover all of this the day the prospective buyer comes to pick the dog up. It takes time to cover all the itty bitty details and that's why I was concerned that Beenie's breeder is not keeping in touch with a dog s/he sold to be legally left intact. To me, the only dogs fit for breeding are working/conformation dogs. Since I can't think of any work specifically geared towards BTs, I would suppose that Beenie was sold as a show prospect and that's why she was allowed to be left intact. I hope this makes sense; I'm not the greytest at explanations

Now, if we're talking pet dogs, then I wouldn't expect as much contact between breeder and buyer. Again, kudos to you, Beeniesmom! I agree, again, that you should adopt/foster a BT. Good Luck!