A Plea for HELP!!

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Yeah Bowser! Good news on the white coat visit!

[Edwina's Secretary]

What can I add but my awe and admiration for you Phred!

[catcrazylady]

I am so glad this got cross posted for all to see and share. I have cried, smiled, laughed, and cried some more. This is truly amazing and really shows how much PT'ers care for animals and for each other.
AMAZING! Absolutely AMAZING!!!!

Bowser you are one handsome and extremely lucky gent and I'm so glad that it looks like you will have a great and healthy future. Everyone involved is so wonderful but Phred you take the cake! There are no words that can express how wonderful, kind, and selfless you are.

AMAZING! Absolutely AMAZING!!!!

[Phred]

Originally posted by moosmom

So, you're telling us that Midnight is now staying in a deplorable place where he'll be forced to live outside and NOT be fed???

That's the impression I'm getting. In the beginning of the thread, you stated this old lady was starving BOTH Bowser and Midnight.

So, WHY in HELL was Midnight left behind???

I know he took off. I don't know of ANY cat that voluntarily goes into a cat carrier. But her surely could've been trapped.

Forced to live outside with no food, water or shelter a furrever home??? HARDLY!!

I find the fact that Midnight was left behind VERY upsetting, as I would've been happy to meet up with Phred and take Midnight in as a foster till a REAL furrever home could be found.

And in another, unrelated thread...

Originally posted by moosmom

Carla,

They look wonderful!!!
So glad they got a furrrever home,

unlike ANOTHER cat who was left behind.

Great job!! Give them kisses and headbumpies from me.
Donna

Which generated this question...

Originally posted...

Which other cat? Or just in general.
...

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I've tried to start this "reply" a dozen times with different
"slants" - here goes the LAST attempt at a civil reply...

I do NOT like having to defend myself and/or others from coments made by an individual, who might have meant well or was comvinced there has been a glaring oversight or an apparent cruelelty comitted;
but who in actuality has NO CLUE WHATSOEVER of even SOME of the facts surrounding the Kat known as Midnight.

EVERY ONE of the individuals Directly Involved with the Rescues of Bowser and Midnight spent a LOT of Time discussing the pros and cons of at least 4 or 5 possible solutions for Midnight, da Kat!!
Those Directly Involved in the Rescue included:
. Zippy (Grandaughter of GranPaw)
. Zippy's MOM (daughter of GranPaw)
. Zippy's Cousin (another Grandaughter of GranPaw)
. Dawg Ketcher Butch
. Back-Up Rescue/Foster Laurie
. and ME (Phred)

I'm sorry we didn't have time to call a formal Pet Talk Family Meeting
to debate all the Facts, pros & cons, opinions and desires...
But Bowser was on a SHORT string.

Midnight , da Kat, has been on a "short string" for her entire life!

Since KittenHood, da Kat has had an "Attitude" towards 2-Leggers!
Family, friends, and visitors to GranPaw's Place were warned >>>
Don't mess wiff da Kat! She Don't LIKE Humans!
She's *QUITE* Able to Fend for Herself - she's done that for
all of her adult life! She's probably more "wild" than a Feral cat!

It was agreed to by ALL the Rescue Team that the BEST resolution
for da KAT was for her to STAY WHERE SHE WAS ~
as Long As she was NOT going to be "eliminated" by the
current tenant in the house!

And since NO ONE had been able to contact said tenant -
we had no knowledge that SHE wanted to or was willing to Keep da Kat.

OK - enuff of this.
I said a lot more than I planned to.

This WAS a Very Happie Thread...
we were following the Tails of Bowser...

This "discussion" of da Kat has thrown a wet blanket on the Bowser Tails.

Let's agree to continue with Bowser's Tails ...
or I'm outta here!
If necessary, I can continue with Bowser's Quest for his
FurrEver Home with Zippy via e-mail and phone.

Sorry to ALL if this seems harsh, rude, unfriendly, nasty,
or whatever anyone cares to call MY Attitude...
But I'm hurt, offended, and upset that some would think that
I (and ALL the others involved) would have anything but
the BEST Possible Outcome for da Kat in our plans.
We DID have a PLAN - and Midnight's "future" is probably a
Lot Better NOW than it's been for the last several years!

/s/ Phred
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12:30 AM *EDIT* ~

Please NOTE that what I "quoted" and wrote ^ABOVE^ has NOT been changed
at all with this "edit"!

As sometimes happens when a "controversy" arises...
"Posts" are DELETED without further comment or explanation
by their author.
Such is the situation here in this Thread...
The post I wrote ^ABOVE^ had a "reply" by "moosmom" which remained
for some to see, but was then DELETED without further comment.
Now some folks are wondering WHAT is he "upset" about.
HERE"S what I (and possibly others) am "upset" about >>>>>>>>


Posted by: "moosmom"
Personal feline concierge
Posts: 4916

Midnight's "future" is probably a Lot Better NOW
than it's been for the last several years

And you came to that conclusion HOW??? Let me see.
Hmmmmmm, being starved and left out in the cold
vs. being trapped and taken to a foster home
vs. being left where he is and starved by an uncaring, irresponsible pet owner.

Somehow I just can't see how much BETTER his future will be.
I was MORE than willing to offer him a foster home till a furrever
home could be found.

So in other words,
"It's only a cat, let him go,
he'll survive on his own."

Your buddy Butch shirked his responsibility as the Animal Control Officer
and his duty to protect innocent animals,
by throwing his hands up in the air and saying "Oh well".

I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, offend anyone or
remove the "spotlight" off your heroism. And I certainly
wasn't asking you to defend yourself.
But someone has to speak up for Midnight,
as he certainly can't speak for himself.
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[TrixiesMom]

((huggles Phred tightly and kisses his forehead))


I was going to say my 2 kibble worth, but I'm not going to.. I'm just going to bite my tongue, and stand beside Phred.

[Christiansmommy]

Phred, I am behind you 100%, you went ABOVE AND BEYOND what most people would have done...i applaud you...

So on with what this happy thread was all about...an angel diguised as a retired fireman, and one very lucky pup!!

(((HUGS))) Phred!!

Robyn

[zippy-kat]

Originally posted by moosmom
In the beginning of the thread, you stated this old lady was starving BOTH Bowser and Midnight.

To clarify:
The old lady (my aunt, 26 yrs old, btw) who left the animals, is no longer in the picture. I don't know where she is, no one in the family knows where she is... only that she went back to an abusive spouse, there are 3-4 warrants out for her arrest, and drugs are involved. (Yes, she's one of those relatives... and I wish they'd add a few more warrants and/or charges for animal abuse.)

The lady who took Midnight is either living in my aunt's old rent place OR is a neighbor; no one's quite sure.


Midnight is NOT a pleasant cat, to say the least. I do not say this lightly as I am admitedly more of a cat ( & bunny!) person than a dog person. She is VERY aggressive and will attack, unprovoked. I don't know what made her like that, she has been mean since I've first met her. I don't know if she was feral and brought into the house, I don't know if she was abused in a previous home. I honestly have no clue.


I will not walk into a room with Midnight because I have been attacked without just cause. She has attacked my grandfather, again without cause, and HUNG FROM HIS WRIST BY HER TEETH causing him to go to the hospital because they could not get the bleeding stopped. (And there's actually alot more details to go w/ that story but I won't be drug into it.)


I am livid and absolutely heart broken that people are finding doubt in judgement of 2 long-time, well-trusted (or so I thought) members of pet talkers.

~Edited for spelling only.~

[Cookiebaker]

Originally posted by Christiansmommy
Phred, I am behind you 100%, you went ABOVE AND BEYOND what most people would have done...i applaud you...

So on with what this happy thread was all about...an angel diguised as a retired fireman, and one very lucky pup!!

(((HUGS))) Phred!!

Robyn

Ditto!!! Phred, you went way above & beyond, and are deserving of NO criticism.

{{Hugs to you, Cinder, Smokey, Boots da kat, and Bowser!!!}}

[TrixiesMom]

OK, did you *NOT* see this part of Phred's post?

*Midnight, da KAT, took one look at Butch, da Dawg Ketcher's West Virginnie style Porta Prison and announced to all that She was STAYIN wiff da Ole Lady at Bowser's old Homestead!*

Midnight is obviously an outdoor cat.. Midnight also apparently is untrusting of humans.. Midnight chose where she wanted to stay..

And before you start on me saying something ridiculous like your previous statement of "it's only a cat, let him go, he'll survive on his own.", I've had cats all my life and I love them as much as dogs.. but if a cat does not want to be crated and taken away, you know as well as I do that it won't be... I would rather Butch abide by Midnights' wishes to leave her there, then have him try to do something she didn't want to do and be clawed to bits..

She wasn't 'left behind'... She is an independant cat who stuck her claws in the earth and announced she wasn't leaving... and they have the right to do that, just as humans have the same right. And until we are able to gain the mind control superpower and control the animal's mind, it's going to stay that way.

What Phred did was above and beyond, I don't even know if I would be able to do such a thing, even if I could drive.. Coming in and accusing him of not caring for a kitty is just.. plain wrong..

*edited to correct 'to' instead of 'ot' LOL!*

[gini]

Well, Zip, I have read Phred's response very carefully and now yours.

I know you...........have met you.........you stayed in my home.

I wouldn't question your judgement for one second. And let's take a long look at Phred's track record........and Laurie's...........back through all of the years on Pet Talk.

SQUEEKY CLEAN.........DEVOTED........LOVING........CARING. ......
I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.

I have said my piece with the intent being peace.

Love to all three of you.

[slleipnir]

I don't know, I heard 'feral' cats can be more dangerous then some dogs! And it sounds like Midnight could be one of those cats. I believe a cat like that would be happier in that sort of environment. Like a wild cat, such as you owuld find in the wild, would prefer to live there, alone, away from humans. Perhaps that is how this cat is? More so going back to it's ancestors ways. Anyway, I don't know anything about this situation so I won't try to say much.

I think you did such an amazingly kind thing, Phred! That dog is very lucky you came to rescue him!

He looks like SUCH a sweety! I wish I wasn't so far away, I would love to take him (If I were allowed)

[Corinna]

Phred please continue the Joyous stories of Bowser. I think you did the most amazing thing and so selfless If someone was so worried about midnight let them do what you did or be quite. More Bowser stories this is almost like the old days of the Cinder and Smoke stories. I miss those days. If I wasn't married I would be after you too

[slick]

OK, now it's my turn to speak. I'm absolutely appalled because ONCE AGAIN, a very loving and caring thread has been turned it into something ugly. It's times like this that I want to leave Pet Talk for good. Do you not trust Phred and Zippy's judgement? It says alot on how much you respect them. What's wrong with you people???? If they felt that Midnight was better off where she is, then so be it. Leave it alone, already!!!

Phred/Zippy/Laurie: Try to ignore what others are saying. I FOR ONE, stand with you 100% and by God they have will to go through me to get to you.

....and that's all I've got to say about that.....

[Kfamr]

Very sorry i'm late in this thread!

What a wonderful tale... very sorry it's been dissrupted... put please carry on with Bowser tales!

Phred, I'd love to hear more about sweet Bowser. He is adorable.

Tonya, i'm so glad your child-hood friend is being helped.


How does Bowser like other dogs??

[micki76]

I somehow missed this entire thread until now. Amazing story, amazing man. Way to go Phred!!!!!!!!!! I'm utterly in awe of your kindness and generosity.

Please, please, please don't take the "Bowser Tails" to PM's!!! I don't wanna miss a single second of this. Please don't let the fact that anyone is questioning your judgement (and everyone else's involved) on this, hurt your feelings. You undoubtedly did the VERY BEST for everyone involved.

Does sorta sound like somebody found a forever home already.

*crosses fingers*