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    breeding delima

    my mom wants a mini schnauzer to breed. we had one before and she loved breedig her.she died but she wants another.

    i want a dachshund. i love the breed and would love to breed them.

    what breed should we breed?
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    I would say neither.

    “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running
    from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you.
    I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
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    I agree with Liana...leave the breeding to the experts as in RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS....there are too many dogs out there as it is....and people like you who breed "for fun" dont help at all!
    Last edited by GoldenRetrLuver; 07-03-2003 at 12:44 PM.

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    I say neither Why in the world would you want to do that! There are too many dogs out there that need homes as it is
    "Careful what you say, careful what you wish or it may just regret it!"

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    I cannot believe you would even post that here. I think you just do stuff like that to make us mad.
    I recommend neither, maybe you and your mom should see some statistics of how many dogs there are without homes.
    Just because it is fun, is no reason to breed dogs.
    Go to a shelter and adopt a dog, and save it's life.

    PLEASE DO NOT BREED ANY DOGS
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    what is delima?

    I have not a clue as to what this means!

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    Delima is a problem

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    Re: what is delima?

    Originally posted by sasvermont
    I have not a clue as to what this means!

    lolol
    Emily, Kito, Abbey, Riley, and Jada

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    di·lem·ma
    A situation that requires a choice between options that are or seem equally unfavorable or mutually exclusive.
    Usage Problem. A problem that seems to defy a satisfactory solution.
    Logic. An argument that presents two alternatives, each of which has the same consequence.



    It seems to me that what you have is definitely not a true dilemma (correct spelling). You post pictures of homeless dogs in horrible situations for us all the time, so I know you understand the huge problem with pleasure or backyard breeding. I'm also sure you knew what kind of response you would get here, so I will go ahead and go on record, agreeing with the majority. Both of you need to look at your desires again in a more realistic manner and do what is right for any potential dog you get, concentrating on loving it and not the puppies and money it can bring you.

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    Very well said Logan.

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    Is your dog so cute you wish you could fill the world with creatures just like her? Many owners feel this way about their pets. Some even see breeding as a way to make some extra money, through the sale of the litter.


    What many people do not realize is that breeding can have serious medical as well as social consequences. It can also be unexpectedly expensive. Although we at VetCentric support the efforts of responsible professional dog breeders, when it comes to letting puppies proliferate in the laundry room or the backyard, we have to give owners a strong thumbs down.

    If you are considering perpetuating your dog’s gene pool, we urge you to first carefully consider these Eight Good Reasons Not to Breed Your Dog.

    1. Not all dogs are built to be bred.

    Most pets, although lovable, are not of breeding quality because they have genetic defects and other problems that should not be perpetuated. People who breed dogs for a living are very careful about choosing which dogs they will breed together based on physical characteristics and behavior. Some people decide that it would be fun to breed and just start looking for a dog that has the proper equipment and is willing. This can be a huge mistake.

    2. There are already too many dogs in the world.

    Breeding your pet is a serious endeavor and should not be taken lightly. There are far too many pets that end up in shelters without good homes. If your breed of dog has large litters, what will you do if you are unable to sell the puppies? Do you really want to contribute to the massive problem of pet overpopulation?

    3. Dogs that aren’t neutered face serious health risks.

    Consider your dog’s own health. Male dogs that are neutered are less likely to be hit by cars, because unaltered males have a very strong urge to roam and find a fertile female. Male dogs will go over or under fences, through doors and windows, and will pull leashes out of unsuspecting hands in quest of a mate.

    Additionally, neutering greatly reduces the incidence of prostatic disease and eliminates testicular cancer in males, and cuts down on breast cancer in females. The possibility of uterine infections is also eliminated by spaying.

    4. Female dogs used for breeding may have unwelcome visitors.

    If you spay your dog, you will not have to chase persistent male dogs out of your yard. Also, you won’t have to worry about cleaning up messy heat cycles.

    5. Be prepared to work like a dog when your pet goes into labor.

    Many people do not realize just how much work and expense is involved with letting dogs have puppies. Getting the mother through pregnancy is the easy part, but labor is truly laborious for dog and owner alike. Dogs usually decide to have their puppies at the most inconvenient times, like 2:00 in the morning when veterinary hospitals are closed.

    If your pet develops a problem during delivery, it means at least the expense of an emergency call. If the complications are life threatening, you must be prepared, especially if you have a breed of dog that has a broad head like a pug, to pay for an emergency C-section. It is very distressing to have to leave home in the middle of the night, worry about your pet, get a large veterinary bill and then try to explain to your boss why you cannot possibly come to work the next day.

    6. It can be devastating when the puppies die.

    There is always the prospect of the loss of some or all of the puppies. A neonatal mortality rate of 10 to 30 percent is considered normal. And, it’s easy to lose a puppy if you don’t have the experience or knowledge to care for newborns. Because puppies are not able to regulate their own body temperature initially, you may need to supplement their environment with heat.

    7. Not all dogs make the best mothers.

    If your female doesn’t have enough milk to feed all its puppies, or decides that feeding her offspring is not her cup of tea, it will be your responsibility to provide them with nutrition every three to four hours, round the clock. And how many mouths are there to feed?

    Another aspect of puppy care that you can look forward to if your dog wants nothing to do with her brood is the manual stimulation of urination and defecation. Until puppies are three weeks old they will only void if directly stimulated. If mom isn’t doing this, you will need to take a moistened cotton ball and gently rub the urogenital area until the babes begin to urinate and pass stool. Failure to do this can result in some pretty unhappy puppies.

    8. Good luck seeing a profit!

    Your last responsibility before they go to a new home is to have them dewormed, vaccinated, and examined by a veterinarian. You will want to make sure that you have budgeted a sufficient amount for this purpose. Needless to say, if you decide to breed mixed breed puppies, you have no opportunity to recoup this expense.

    Puppies are a lot of fun and it can be very exciting when they are born, but more often than not, owners find themselves in over their heads when they decide to endeavor into breeding.

    Article republished here with permission from VetCentric.com
    Copyright(c) 2000 by VetCentric.com
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    Why People want to breed dogs, and why they shouldn't.


    Almost everybody loves puppies. Who could resist that sweet puppy breath or soft, downy fur?

    Unfortunately, when it comes to dog breeding, a love of puppies is simply not enough to breed your dog. Hundreds of puppies are born every day, and hundreds of adorable puppies are put to sleep in shelters across North America. We have a serious pet overpopulation problem right now.

    The Reasons People Want to Breed Their Dog

    I want another one just like my dog.
    I want to make money.
    I want my children to witness the miracle of birth.
    Puppies are cute, there's always people who want puppies.
    The Reasons People Should NOT Breed Their Dogs


    I want another one just like my dog.
    This never works according to plan. When a dog gets pregnant, the puppies will take the father's traits, personality, and physical, and the mother's traits, and mix them up, taking some of one, some of another, and developing their own altogether. You will never get a perfect match. In stead you may end up with the worst traits of both dogs.

    Even cloning a dog (see "Cloning Your Dog") has proven that while a genetic match is possible, looks and temperament are still in the hands of Fate.


    I want to make money.
    I can't believe people can still think they can make money off of puppies. The cost of breeding will overshadow any profits you think to make. The puppies need their first shots before going to their new homes, the mother needs frequent check-ups, and heaven forbid if something goes wrong. And something always goes wrong.


    I want my children to witness the miracle of birth.
    This "miracle" can now be easily viewed by both children and adults thanks to such wonderful programming as "A Baby Story" and "Maternity Ward", both available on cable television.

    Not only that, but how much of a "miracle" will your child be seeing if your beloved pet dies halfway through delivery?


    Puppies are cute, there's always people who want puppies.
    No, unfortunately this is the most ignorant assumption made these days. Not everybody wants puppies. Hundreds die everyday because of the lack of homes. How heartbreaking to hold a twelve week old puppy and put her to sleep because somebody thought for sure there would be somebody else who wanted her.

    For every puppy born, three die in shelters. There are too many out there and not enough homes for them all.

    If this is not enough reasons to stop you from breeding your dog, then here are a few more:

    Complications in birth and pregnancies happen all the time. You could face losing your dog to death, and all the puppies with her. Will YOU pay the $1200.00 for a much-needed emergency cesarean section when she cannot deliver the pups?

    What about sexually-transmitted diseases? That stud dog you had pickled out may have one. They are more common than you think.

    How about genetic diseases? They abound.

    Breeding is not a careless affair, it is so much more than bringing bitch and stud together during a heat cycle.

    Please think it over carefully.


    Recommended Reading
    • Successful Dog Breeding
    • Canine Reproduction: The Breeder's Guide
    • Breeding a Litter: The Complete Book of Prenatal and Postnatal Care
    • The Standard Book of Dog Breeding
    • The Complete Book of Dog Breeding
    • The Genetics of the Dog
    • Breeding Dogs for Dummies
    • Dog Breeding for Professionals
    • The Joy of Breeding Your Own Show Dog
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    Dilemma in my dictionary is a Nelly song.


    As for the subject. I agree with everyone else. Do not breed.

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    dont breed because it is wrone to do so, why would you want to up the risk of canser in your female and male dog, + up the risk of homless puppies in the world. It is pointless. please dont breed. !!
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    Wow, I just looked. She's only 14. Definatly shouldn't be breeding dogs, and if her mother buys her dogs to breed then her mother really needs to be educated.

    ~Kay, Athena, Ace, Kiara, Mufasa, & Alice!
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    How good it feels to be alive
    And strive for your desire"

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