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    R I P Tatiana

    I feel so sorry for the San Francisco tiger.

    I believe that she was taunted and teased, and maybe even assisted getting out. Don't know if the 2 surviving brothers will tell the truth, or if we will ever know, but it is what I believe.

    I ony hope the ones injured weren't just innocent bystanders.

    The tiger, and the Zoo, will suffer, because of someone else's misdeed. The tiger is dead, and the Zoo will not only have to aquire another tiger, but will have to reenforce the holding area before they can do it. The animals need to be better protected from the spectators who can't behave themselves.
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    I agree, I feel so bad for her. She was a beautiful girl, and it was such a tragic end for everyone.

    I feel so conflicted about zoos. I know that it can't be good for the animals it is not right, I know that there are going to be people who go there and taunt them and that the animals will only suffer for what we humans are doing. At the same time, I also know that it is the only way many people will get to see a real example of some of the finest most beautiful creatures in the world. It shouldn't be this way. *sigh* I don't know if that is a good enough reason to put these magnificent creatures in this position. I have gone to zoos (usually get there about once every ten years or so), and spend most of my time at the tiger preserves, because they are my favorite animals. But...I don't know I am so conflicted about it.

    Anyway, yes, RIP Tatiana, out of everyone involved, zoo keepers, builders, perhaps even the victims themselves, you were the most innocent.

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    Multiple human errrors led to a tragedy for the tiger & the young man's
    family. The animal was the only innocent in the whole mess. Right now
    the news story are playing the "friends of the man tried to save their
    friend" theme instead of talking about what the men were doing hanging
    around after the Zoo was closing? There was also something about the
    man's shoe being found inside the Tiger fence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom
    I feel so sorry for the San Francisco tiger.

    I believe that she was taunted and teased, and maybe even assisted getting out. Don't know if the 2 surviving brothers will tell the truth, or if we will ever know, but it is what I believe.

    I ony hope the ones injured weren't just innocent bystanders.

    The tiger, and the Zoo, will suffer, because of someone else's misdeed. The tiger is dead, and the Zoo will not only have to aquire another tiger, but will have to reenforce the holding area before they can do it. The animals need to be better protected from the spectators who can't behave themselves.
    I totally agree with you girl.. I am very saddened for Tatiana haven to lost her life.. **ALSO TODAY THEY FOUND ON THE DALLAS HWY ANOTHER 2 YR OLD FEMALE BANGEL TIGER DECLAWED & SHOT 5 TIMES.. THE DALLAS ZOO SAYS IT IS NOT ONE OF THEIRS.. THEY THINK HUDLEMS DID THE KILLING FOR MEANESS.. THEY SAID THE TIGER SHOWED TO BE SOMEONE'S PET..

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    I also agree with freedom R.I.P. Tatianna i also found a picture of this beautifull animal i do hope that the 2 surviving brother DO tell the TRUTH.

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    Honestly, I feel bad for Tatiana the most out of everyone. I can't say if I was a cop there and she threatened me I wouldn't have shot her, but I'm afraid either way she would have been killed. I don't want to say they all deserved what they got but what if they were taunting her? If she got the chance do you not think she would have attacked? She did get the chance. I don't get why people have to mess with animals, especially wild and potentially dangerous animals. I've seen someone dangle their leg over the fence in Florida where there was a huge alligator. Seriously, why do people feel the need to be so stupid? If you taunt a 300 pound cat what do you expect it to do? Who would be the first to be blamed if the alligator ripped his leg off. But sadly, taunting animals at zoo's is not against the law. I believe she was taunted as well since the survivors are being hostile to the investigators and police.

    One thing the zoo shouldn't have done is lie about the size of the fence. This probably got them into more trouble. They said it was 20 ft, then 18 ft, and really it was 12 ft.

    I don't know what happened that night, and I really don't want to know. It's really unfortunate for everyone involved. Especially the kid who got killed. I don't think he totally deserved that but what do you expect when you mess with something like a tiger?
    Last edited by Alysser; 12-31-2007 at 03:15 PM.

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    They taunted her tossing things in the enclosure. The enclosure was way to short and no water in the moat. Most recent info is the zoo knew that Tatiana had been "playing with the wall" and could get her paw up onto the edge. They did nothing. She was taunted and the extra adrenalin got her all the way out.

    Tatiana was also unfairly raised and the Denver zoo is at fault in part. She was raised with no human contact. It is in humane to raise an animal to be wild when it is going to be living with people.

    She did pass others by to get to all three men that were there together. She sought them out. I feel she just wanted to teach them a lesson and not kill but never being socialized to people she treated them as another tiger. The one that died was due to a claw to the throat a tiger killing on purpose goes for the throat or neck but with their teeth.

    Tigers can live happily in captivity and even zoos if handled and raised right and the enclosure protect both them and the public. Tatiana was raised and handled all wrong. Most tigers live good lives that's why you don't hear about all the others on the news. Supposedly about 10,000 kept in the US. Even one or two incidents a year isn't even a whole percentage point. Horses kill more people percentage wise.

    Someone had a Busch garden tiger show on youtube but I can't find it now. People and tigers interacting and tigers seemed to be having a blast.



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    I found this sanctuary for 'big cats' the other day while searching for something else.

    I really admire the work they do.

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    RIP Tatiana

    Humans just plain make me angry at times. This is one of those times. Tatiana had already shown that she needed to be well contained when she attacked her provider last year. The zoo really messed up and it cost Tatiana and the young man their lives. Big cats need lots of room and freedom to be big cats. They are not meant to be in an enclosure the size of the one she was in. The stupid zoo should have had cameras to watch for tormentors at the enclosure as well as a higher wall. I understand financial issues, but if you can't afford it, don't go there. I raise and release many wild animals that are orphaned or injured. No matter how small the animal it can be potentially dangerous. Some of the worst damage to my person was from a frightened grey squirrel that was not even an adult yet. I let my guard down and it cost me. Wild animals remember when you torment them and they will retaliate eventually if it continues. Tatiana was taking care of business as any tiger will do if the opportunity presents itself. I truly feel for the families of those young men. I wonder if the truth will ever be known. Humans really need to be trained a little better in our rolls as caretakers of this earth and it's inhabitants, whether human, animal, or plant. Of course all the training in the world will not help if a person is just plain cruel!!! RIP Beautiful Girl! I for one will always remember you.
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    It always amazes me that people do dumb things to wild animals then get riled up when the animal acts like what it is, a wild animal. It's always the animal that gets the worst of the situation.

    Any one who teases an animal deserves what they get, be it bitten or mauled! Animals just defend themselves the only way they can.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
    It always amazes me that people do dumb things to wild animals then get riled up when the animal acts like what it is, a wild animal. It's always the animal that gets the worst of the situation.

    Any one who teases an animal deserves what they get, be it bitten or mauled! Animals just defend themselves the only way they can.

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    Liz, stupidity knows no gender boundaries. Stupid is stupid.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Liz, stupidity knows no gender boundaries. Stupid is stupid.


    Hey, stupid is as stupid does but, if you check the crime stats, most
    crime & mayhem is committed by male teens & early twenties.
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    And if I made a similar remark about certain issues and estrogen I'd be flamed.

    Sexist comments are sexist comments.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    The zoo was at fault here, the boy in fact may have done something stupid but the wall was way below what is mandated and that tiger has a history for gods sake a young man is dead.
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

    I have been frosted!

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