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    I would have loved to see the Presiden'ts face after reading this....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060912/cm_thenation/15120539

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    Keith Olbermann is without a doubt the best news anchor on television today. Two weeks ago, echoing the spirit of the legendary Edward R. Murrow, Olbermann took Donald Rumsfeld to task for comparing critics of the Iraq war to Nazi appeasers. Tonight, broadcasting live from above a desolate and still demolished Ground Zero, Olbermann delivered a stirring eight minute commentary indicting the Bush Administration's shameful and tragic response to 9/11. The entire speech is worth watching and reading, so I'm posting the full text below.


    Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space. And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.

    All the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and -- as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul -- two more in the Towers.

    And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.

    I belabor this to emphasize that, for me this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.

    And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft,"or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante and at worst, an idiot whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.

    However, of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast -- of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds -- none of us could have predicted this.

    Five years later this space is still empty.

    Five years later there is no memorial to the dead.

    Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.

    Five years later this country's wound is still open.

    Five years later this country's mass grave is still unmarked.

    Five years later this is still just a background for a photo-op.

    It is beyond shameful.

    At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial -- barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field -- Mr. Lincoln said, "we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."

    Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.

    Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We cannot dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground." So we won't.

    Instead they bicker and buck pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they're doing instead of doing any job at all.

    Five years later, Mr. Bush, we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir, on these 16 empty acres. The terrorists are clearly, still winning.

    And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.

    And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation. There is its symbolism of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.

    The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.

    Those who did not belong to his party -- tabled that.

    Those who doubted the mechanics of his election -- ignored that.

    Those who wondered of his qualifications -- forgot that.

    History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government by its critics. It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation's wounds, but to take political advantage.

    Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.

    The President -- and those around him -- did that.

    They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused, as appeasers, as those who, in the Vice President's words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."

    They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken, a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated al-Qaida as much as we did.

    The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had 'something to do' with 9/11 is "lying by implication."

    The impolite phrase is "impeachable offense."

    Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space, and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.

    Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.

    Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible for anything in his own administration.

    Yet what is happening this very night?

    A mini-series, created, influenced -- possibly financed by -- the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.

    The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.

    How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death, after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections? How dare you -- or those around you -- ever "spin" 9/11?

    Just as the terrorists have succeeded -- are still succeeding -- as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero.

    So, too, have they succeeded, and are still succeeding as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.

    This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney's continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.

    And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."

    In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm. Suddenly his car -- and only his car -- starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man's lights go on. As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced. An "alien" is shot -- but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help. The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials are seen manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there's no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it's themselves."

    And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men.

    "For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own -- for the children, and the children yet unborn."

    When those who dissent are told time and time again -- as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus -- that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"... look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:

    Who has left this hole in the ground?

    We have not forgotten, Mr. President.

    You have.

    May this country forgive you.
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    and Mr Olbermann, Al Franken, Rush Limbaugh, et al are absolute jackasses for not taking a day or two off.

    There is NO excuse for turning a national Day of Mourning into a political event.

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    Things that had to be done to make the Gettysburg Battlefield a national memorial:

    Map it

    Put up a monument.

    job done.

    Things that have to be done at ground zero:

    Clear away hundreds of thousands of tons of debris

    While doing the above, watch for remains, and separate the remains

    soil stability studies, assessments of total damage to the NYC infrastructure

    Repair said infrastructure

    Engage in endless wrangling between NYC and the owner of the property (after all, RE in midtown manhattan is worth HUGE $$$$, unlike Gettysburg, which was farmland) over what was going to replace the twin towers.

    endless wrangling between the above, the WTC survivors and families, and any and every organization with even a minor stake in ground zero over who was in charge

    Legal battles over who's paying for what

    ad nauseum.

    Even after the construction of the replacement tower(s)? is begun, it will take years to complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    and Mr Olbermann, Al Franken, Rush Limbaugh, et al are absolute jackasses for not taking a day or two off.

    There is NO excuse for turning a national Day of Mourning into a political event.

    psst....Hey LH....these guys aren't politicians.....GWB IS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    psst....Hey LH....these guys aren't politicians.....GWB IS
    But they do spew and lie like the big boys, eh?

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    I've never seen proof that Bush actually does read. Well, maybe if
    someone writes in down in BIG letters & rehearses him day & night, then
    maybe he can parrot a few sentences.

    Latest Bushism, I love it.

    bushisms: The president's accidental wit and wisdom.

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    "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."—Interview with CBS News, Washington D.C., Sept. 6, 2006

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    Most politicians and journalists spin and spew with the best of them...You have to look at all sides to get the real story and even then it's hit or miss. Olberman is a former ESPN commentator anyway....'nuff said....

    Liz, I think that maybe Laura, being a certified teacher in library science, probably reads the "big" words....


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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    bushisms: The president's accidental wit and wisdom.

    Bushism of the Day

    By Jacob Weisberg
    Posted Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2006, at 5:29 PM ET
    "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."—Interview with CBS News, Washington D.C., Sept. 6, 2006

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    But how about in his speech the other night....helping each other in a time of crisis is "uniquely American??????

    Ouch!

    And that wasn't even accidental!

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    Right now we have more things to be concerned about than if our president reads or talks correctly. A lot of the countries not friendly to USA are meeting in Cuba. Iran is among them. Probably planning on who gets to blow us up first.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

    It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

    I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.

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    ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

    It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

    I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.
    So how did you fel about the VERY political nature of GW's speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

    It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

    I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.
    Yes, it was very appropriate that he mark the occasion with a speech. What was inappropriate was that he turned it into yet another opprotunity to tell us what a great guy he is by saving the Iraqi's from Saddam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilacDragon
    Yes, it was very appropriate that he mark the occasion with a speech. What was inappropriate was that he turned it into yet another opprotunity to tell us what a great guy he is by saving the Iraqi's from Saddam.
    Strange, I don't remember him saying he was a great guy. I must have taken a bathroom break or something?
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    The President, by nature of the job, is a politician. Any speech the President gives is going to be political in nature. Give it a rest for a couple days, then say whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Any speech the President gives is going to be political in nature. Give it a rest for a couple days, then say whatever you want.
    You want a break from having to defend Bush? Well, I think a lot of folks
    are tired of listening to the same old crap over and over, ad nauseam. I wish
    he'd give his tired old ,stay the course messages, a rest too.
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