This made me soooo mad.

[Kfamr]

This is basically a small, yet aggrivating rant. so, if you odn't want to read such a thing, click "back".


I have Jewelery class with this freshman, Bobby, that I met this year and have become good friends with.

He's a very unique kid, always happy and always able to make you laugh.

He doesn't have the best family life, but he's still always happy.

He put eyeliner on today, which alot of people wear, lol. I mean just aobut everyone I know (except me ) wears eyeliner.

So, anyways, to the aggrivating part.

The teacher, Ms. Vargas, whom i've known and has classes with since my Freshman year, calls Bobby into her office.

When Bobby came back, I asked him what she needed him for.

He said that she told him to take his eyeliner off, that it was a class disruption (Ummm... No one was even paying attention to it) and that he reminded her of Preston (another good friend of mine, and why would she bring him up anyways?!?) He didn't take it off.

A teacher has NO RIGHT, imo, to tell a student to take their make up off, unless it was completely covering his face like face paint. There's plenty of girls who cake on their make up, far more than a little eye liner.

He's the only guy on the class and she's been so rude and hard on him since class started.


On our first project, which was making a necklace out of sculpey clay.. After watchin him over the 2 weeks we had, even helping him with making his beads, wathcing him put the necklace together -- she says when he goes to put the necklace up on the desplay board that it was unacceptable, not good enough, and made him take it apart.



She makes me so angry. She ALWAYS complains aobut how students don't treat her right, how she dislikes most of her job, how she doesn't get paid enough money, and how she always ends up paying for most of the tools we use.

WELL, THERE'S NOTHING US STUDENTS CAN DO TO CHANGE HER LIFE!!!


Ughh.... I'll end this rant for now.

[Tonya]

That's to bad. To me that's discrimination. Who is she to decide rather a male or female can wear makeup?

[mugsy]

I don't like it when guys wear makeup, but generally don't say anything about it unless the kids are laughing about it or it disrupts the learning process. I do know, however, some of our teachers that would send him to the office. Now, keep in mind I also teach middle school where the kids have even fewer rights than high school kids.

I would hope that if it's as bad as that, that his parents would call and request a conference with the teacher. Or at least call. I never have a problem talking to parents, so that they can get the story straight from the horse's mouth.

[Pam]

KayAnn back when I was in school when the dinosaurs roamed the earth you wouldn't believe the dress code we had in public school. This poor boy would have most definitely been called down to the office as well. Kids today are pretty much allowed to dress in a very relaxed manner (jeans, etc.) where when I was in school girl had to wear dresses or skirts and blouses - absolutely no slacks! No sandals in the summer and we had no air conditioning in the schools back then. We begged to be able to wear shorts during final exams but the answer was always NO! See I told you I was older than dirt! LOL!

I think the thing that is so sad with your story is that this boy might be being singled out and that is a shame. The teacher sounds like she is putting in hours to get a paycheck and probably should find another profession. Obviously she isn't teacher material. I hope you just keep on being his friend. In the meantime be glad you don't have to dress the way us *old folks* did back in the Dark Ages.

[ILoveMyAbbyGirl]

*cough* Personally, a little eye liner on guys is... *ahem* charming... *cough*

I love eye liner on guys. It just shows everyone that they will and can stand up for what they want and not be too shy to try something new.

Bravo for him for being the only male in a jewelry class. Another good example of being brave.

Have him talk to the counselor or something... someone who has authority and can set that stupid teacher straight...

[Kfamr]

I see no problem with boys wearing make up. The school board/ teachers shouldn't either.

No one's ever laughed about boys wearing make up here, although I can't say they're more mature in highschool than in middle school.


He doesn't have parents, he was adopted by his grandmother.


I love eyeliner on guys too, Honestly I think a little looks great on everyone. It well, outlines the eyes, obviously, and makes them stand out a bit more

[Karen]

Hmmm, who is your teacher's boss? Maybe a well-worded polite complaint about her, signed by other students in the class, and turned in to her boss might have an effect?

Next time she complains about teaching, ask her why she is a teacher, anyway? What job would she rather be doing?

[Kfamr]

That's a good idea Karen, and I bet I could get tons of signatures.

But, then again I doubt it'd do anything in my school, especially since she's good at lying.

Actually, I remember a girl who complained about her last year, because I got called up the the office to be questioned aobut it.

The girl gave them ym name because I told her i'd stand up for her, since Ms. Vargas continuously said degrading stuff aobut her to other students.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Strange, stupid teacher.
All of my friends wear eyeliner, guys and girls. But I don't. None of my teachers have said anything to the guys about it, but I have one who just rolls their eyes at it and continues on.

[mugsy]

KayAnn, his grandmother could request the conference. I think that both sides should present their side of the story. I would be interested in what her explanation would be.

Please don't misunderstand, I am much more for free expression than any of the other teachers at our school. I just don't care for men wearing makeup, but, whatever blows your hair back...they're not there to please me....they need to make themselves comfortable.

I would probably take your friend aside and give him the options that have been presented here and see what HE thinks. Maybe you could offer to go as moral support and ask to speak to the principal (who would be her boss).

[catnapper]

Hmmm... when I went to school, girls were sent home for similar reasons. But that was then and this is modern society!

Now, the thing to do is to get another boy to wear eyeliner in her class (not so obviuos - like tomorrow) and see how she responds. If she allows him to remain in class without a word, then your friend has a valid complaint.

Has your friend's grandmother spoken to the teacher? I have had to go to my kids school for various reasons (one thing I've learned is to never ever go storming in a blaming the teacher... always go in to "discuss the matter and get both sides of the story.")

I had one teacher that was being blatantly unfair to my daughter last year (she almost got suspended for laughing during a game in class - even after the teacher admitted she was encouraging laughter!) We took it all the way to the superintendant and my daughter got pulled out of the class and into a new one.

Personally, I'm too old fashioned to like the look of makeup on males, but that's me. I realize that its a whole lot better form of personal expression than permanent tatoos, so with the choice, I'd say put all of the eyeliner on you want and stay away from permanently marking your body!

[Amber]

Okay first of all, makeup isnt only just for women. So he DOES have a right to wear it (unless against school policy), if they want...Right? Alot of my friends were eye liner, I do. But I personally havent seen a guy at my school wear it. Anyway, your teacher is unfair. And if she is complaining of being a teacher, then why on earth, is she being a school teacher?

[carole]

What amazes me is you are even allowed to wear make-up of any description to school, my daughter has just started her new school with a uniform and she is not allowed any make-up of any kind, no jewellery except a watch and one earing in each ear, which must be studs,and her hair if shoulder length to be tied up,I think the kids look great, and none of them seem to mind that much, as they all have to do it..

Maybe I am being old-fashioned but I don't think make-up has a place in school, and if you wear a uniform certain standards should be met, I am pleased we have these rules, the kids look smart, clean and tidy, no hair gels, or outrageous hair colours or piercings, as for expressing their individuality I think that is a crock, JMHO, but as for the teacher complaining all the time, now that is a NO NO , she is not a good example to you kids.

[Amber]

I wish our school were more like that. But it isnt. Kids at my school are aloud to were anything that isnt revealing. But still they do, and it grosses me out!

[slleipnir]

I can't say that I -love- eyeliner on guys..but then again I haven't seen a whole lot with it. But I believe we are intitled to have our own freewill..I think it's so stupid your teacher does that. People like that really bug me I remember a girl in my jr high school..she dressed different from other people..like very gothic like. Dog collor, the whole works..at this point, really no one dressed like that (WhenI was in high school however, you saw a lot of it) anyway, I always heard people saying bad things about her, and making up all this crap and stuff..anyway, turns out she owned a horse at the barn I rode at. So I was talking to her one day about her horse, and she turned out to be one of the nicest people I've met in a while. She even let my friend and I ride her horse a lot and took time to help us with our riding. She ended up moving away shortly after which sucked..she also lived in my moms apt which I didn't know till she was moving. Anyway, didn't mean to take up your thread, but it kinda shows how judgemental people are