I had a private chat with Joe last night when I was driving everyone home from our D20 game at Renos place. Joe is last as we live in the same complex... I feel soooo bad for him right now... He told me some VERY private things that he hasn't told anyone before. I feel very special that he feels he can talk to me about this kind of thing, but it makes me mad that his best friend is the cause. I don't even know how to help him either, except agree with him that his (our) friend needs a kick to the head. Poor guy needed a hug, but I don't think we're at that stage yet where friends can hug... its kinda a no touchy touchy friendship... as Sun was the first time he touched me (NOT that way.. I got his hands in my face & he messed my hair)... Don't know what to do as I've never delt with this before... I senced that he was close to crying

I was going to bring 1 or 2 of our friends along on the trip to Hamilton(where Joe is going for 2 weeks on Sat).. but after last night, I think it'll be best if it was just the 2 of us going. It'll give us about an hour to talk. He almost always opens up to me in my car, as there is NO ONE who can evesdrop (sp).


Heres what upset Joe. Dan our friend has been trying to steal Eva away from Gio(Dan was making up lies about Gio, trying to get Eva to dump him). Eva had NO idea that Dan was doing this. I couldn't take it anymore, as what Eva was thinking was playful horsing around, was NOT in Dan's head... I finally gave in & told Eva. I feared she would get mad at me as I've only met her a couple times (but we hit it off really well).. I told her to becareful as Dan did tell me some things (yes I told her, I felt it was right to)... I spoke to her about 2 weeks ago.. Lastnight she finally grew a pair & told Dan no more horsing around. Shes now in a serious relationship & she feels its wrong to do that (things like being tickled, hugged, etc).. Dan didn't take it well, as to him it was rejection (she would have rejected him anyway, she LOVES Gio very much, & Gio LOVES her very much)...

How does this effect Joe?

Well Dan pulled the same BS with the last 2 girls Joe dated & the girl Joe has been trying to hook up with recently. The first girl Joe dated was abusive. Joe left after 3yrs with her as he couldn't take it anymore. He got Anxiety from it & tried to commit suicide because of what she did to him & the extra stress Dan was putting into the mix. Joe was horribly depressed & just needed a friend. Dan tried to get into her pants & started spreading rumors about Joe & saying nasty things about him after almost a year, Joe tried dating again. Joe started dating a girl shortly after I met him. It lasted a week, maybe 2 weeks, because once again Dan stepped in & tried to get into her pants & saying bad things about Joe, so Joe lost her... The girl Joe tried to hook up with just recently was also spoiled by Dan.

Joe cannot take much more of this. He told me he was thinking of going back to Hamilton without telling anyone & loosing full contact. I said please don't do that, I like hangoing out with you. But if you do move, let me know & I'll help, but don't loose contact with me!! I then asked.. Are you coming back from Hamilton after I drop you off there Sat. He said yes he is coming back. Hes just been thinking to skip town as he cannot handle much more of Dan, as Dan is suppose to be his friend.

Joe had this real sad face & asked me this... What are friends really supose to do? I told him not what Dan did to you.. I said I would have let you talk & talk & talk, give my opinion if it was needed & I'd try to take your mind off of it for a while & cheer you up.

I'm making plans to pick up Joe when hes done work tonight (8pm). I'm going to take him out to Wendy's for dinner, then to Timmies for an IceCap, & go for a drive & let him talk if he wants to (I know he'll open up again).


I don't know if there is more that I can do. I don't want my emotions getting mixed up. What I mean by that is that well... I have had a crush on Joe for more then 6 months... When I started hanging out with him, it grew stronger & stronger, hes all I thought about at times... But not to the point I'd try to take him away from anyone... When he was dating that girl for a week or 2... someone tried to convince me to out show her & steal Joe I was totally shocked & felt discusted! I could never do that to anyone... Once someone is in a relationship (good or bad), they are 100% off bounds to dating... I would honestly rather be a friend of Joes then to steep that low to steal him. I know Joe is a good man, trustworthy & all those good things... well so am I... I don't think he knows how much I like him... But I cannot tell him, as I fear rejection as I know I'm not his type.