Arizona immigration law

I guess this country USA is going to have to roll with the punches & yes things aren't good here. The economy of New Mexico, has anyone looked at that? I know churches are pitching in & have set up workshops not sweat shops so the people in Mexico & other countries in Central America can make a living. Tourism is out right now because of the dangers to anyone going down their & being kidnapped& held for ransom. Tourism is a big catch all & brings money in for sure & Central America is a unique & beautiful part of the world. During the winter we get a lot of our fruits & veggies from Guatemala. I guess they can pass the Bill & hopefully they can get things to workout. There are always so many conflicts nothing is simple anymore.

Before we started having the major influx of illegals we had thousands of seasonal legal workers that came to work the various crops that are harvested in Central Alabama. These workers were on work Visa's and you had the same groups returning year after year. They had special programs in the churches for the Children of the workers. I do not know what impact the illegal workers may have had on these groups that were coming yearly legally. If I had to guess I would say it probably had a negative impact, though it is Just my guess. A big part of this regions economy is tied to Peaches and Strawberries
and I know that the workers are still needed , I'm just not sure that the illegal
influx has not displaces the one's coming legally.

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Originally Posted by caseysmom

Thats your opinion. That taken along with all of the other remarks makes a pretty ugly picture in my opinion.

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That's ugly ???
I tell ya what's ugly...the drugs that are killing your kids....the illegals that take your jobs and whatever else they can get their hands on....the crime that these people bring with them.
Apathy is not to be applauded.....ACTION to solve these problems is.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

I guess this country USA is going to have to roll with the punches & yes things aren't good here. The economy of New Mexico, has anyone looked at that? I know churches are pitching in & have set up workshops not sweat shops so the people in Mexico & other countries in Central America can make a living. Tourism is out right now because of the dangers to anyone going down their & being kidnapped& held for ransom. Tourism is a big catch all & brings money in for sure & Central America is a unique & beautiful part of the world. During the winter we get a lot of our fruits & veggies from Guatemala. I guess they can pass the Bill & hopefully they can get things to workout. There are always so many conflicts nothing is simple anymore.

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Well yeah !!! It's all give and take....right ??? You all give...and they all take.
I guess all the "happy smiling people" and the "tree huggers" on this thread may one day finally open their eyes when the problem directly affects their way of life. ;)

Wombat, I have a solution to the problem. All the lazy couch potato American kids that need exercise can get out there in the fresh air & pick the strawberries, peaches, apples, etc. They can even eat something good while they are working. I worked on my uncles truck farm for 5 summers picking strawberries & sweetcorn. I learned to work by God & am still a good worker to this day. We don't need immagrants we have a whole crop of kids that don't know what work is. Problem Solved!!! I'am now waiting for the happy smilling peoplem, tree huggers to attack me. Watch out I have my shovel & know how to use it.

I think politicians love to get people riled up about all the "illegals" so they have scapegoats who have no rights or recourse. They're stealing jobs? :rolleyes: That is completely ridiculous. It's more like these people are being exploited by others by working for next to nothing because that's the only option available to them.

I think the "Lurn to talk American" mind-set is just thinly veiled racism.

thinly veiled racism must of been when my grandparents came from Europe & had learn to speak English too.

Racism ??? So far no-one has ever defined that word other than it being exclusively a word that we in the western world are accused of.

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Originally Posted by kokopup

According to the 60 Minutes segment the reason there is an increase in drownings in the canal is because of the border fence. They are saying the fence is doing to good a job and now the canal is the only section available for crossing. I guess the fence needs to extend down the canal also.

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I just watched the piece again. It's definitely a problem. Do they make it safer, knowing that people are going to try to cross, and they might drown? Or do they leave it as is, since making it safer might encourage even more people to try to cross, entering the U.S. illegally? My question is, if they can't extend the fencing, can they improve the supervision on the canal? Would it help to light it better and have people watching more closely who could rescue those who get into trouble while trying to cross?

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Wombat, I have a solution to the problem. All the lazy couch potato American kids that need exercise can get out there in the fresh air & pick the strawberries, peaches, apples, etc. They can even eat something good while they are working.

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Too late mate. Congress has just passed the 896th Amendment stating
"No son or daughter or hermaphrodite shall be required to harvest fruit if it is reasonable to assume that their time is better spent at McDonalds" :p

Racism could be defined as believing one race of people are not human, as in referring to them as flies.

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I just watched the piece again. It's definitely a problem. Do they make it safer, knowing that people are going to try to cross, and they might drown? Or do they leave it as is, since making it safer might encourage even more people to try to cross, entering the U.S. illegally? My question is, if they can't extend the fencing, can they improve the supervision on the canal? Would it help to light it better and have people watching more closely who could rescue those who get into trouble while trying to cross?

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I think they should be helped across. And as soon as get out of the water, they should be presented with a Mouseketeers Certificate (let's not forget the Mickey Mouse ears to).

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Racism could be defined as believing one race of people are not human, as in referring to them as flies.

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How about locusts then ??? :p

Caseysmom, You just knocked my socks off & caused me to drop my shovel. I love your humor. :)

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Caseysmom, You just knocked my socks off & caused me to drop my shovel. I love your humor. :)

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You find racism to be funny?