[QUOTE=RICHARD;2263909]No, no, no.....
I didn't mean YOU! I meant the Good Sheriff and his Bus Message![QUOTE]
Yeah.....hee hee....I know. I'm only have'n ya on mate :p:p
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[QUOTE=RICHARD;2263909]No, no, no.....
I didn't mean YOU! I meant the Good Sheriff and his Bus Message![QUOTE]
Yeah.....hee hee....I know. I'm only have'n ya on mate :p:p
IS a Medicare/AARP card valid I.D. in Arizona?
I think I see now why people think this law is racist, its a 2 part issue...
Part 1. If people are here illegally they must be Mexicans.
This is flat out not true but the news media, and the liberal political hacks want you to believe it.
Part 2. All laws are racist.
If you are pulled over for driving on the wrong side of the street with a pint of Guinness in your hand, its not because your here illegally, its because of the color of your skin.
Part 1. Why ?? For what reason would they single out Mexicans ???
Part 2. No, laws are not racist. Laws are put in place for all people, and apply to everyone whether one is blue, black, white or purple.
People who are pulled over because of the colour of their skin, is done so because most crimes are committed by coloured people.
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In the US you are not allowed to make statements like this because it is not "politically correct"(1) or you are a racist (2), or both. That is just how it is.Quote:
People who are pulled over because of the colour of their skin, is done so because most crimes are committed by coloured people.
I know it to be the truth also, but because of where I live I am not allowed to speak the truth without being called a racist.
That sounds like an illegal (pale) Irishman to me.;)
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I do not want to start a 'border war' here, but-
One bothersome facet of the conversation, across the land is the idea that we do and will harbor lawbreakers living amongst us.
I have no qualms about people coming to the States and being part of the pretty good deal we have here.
I just am appalled by the idea that we turn a blind eye towards parts of the problem.
As I suggested before-regarding the nitwits in Guantanamo Bay-people's hearts bleed for the group that want to do harm to us.
So, if you really care about terrorists we have in locked up in jail?
Sponsor one and have them come live in your home. Seriously.
Show them your hospitality by letting them experience all the things they hate about us-they just might change their minds about how we live.
Sponsor an Illegal Alien.
Bring them into your home/garage and let them live off of your good nature and spoils.
Pay for their insurance, allow them to drive your cars with no license, insurance or knowledge of the laws.
Pay for their medical costs, welfare and give them food from your kitchen.
We already do-inviting them into our REAL homes will let you get a first hand experience with their plight.
No, I am not being mean. I just want to illustrate a point-we just make it worse for them and us by allowing this farce to go on.
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When you see a debate regarding this topic be very wary of who is on the panel.
There will always be the professor/teacher with the 'latin' last name that makes it sound like the U.S. government routinely tortures the illegals by uprooting them and sending them back to their countries. These are the morons who have worked THEIR way into positions by taking advantage of the rules and laws that allowed them to jump ahead in the "line/queue of life".
Their a-holery allows them to become activists for the cause and they gain a bloated and misplaced admiration from the people they defend.
The Mexican government officials refuse to enforce the US/Mex border because they do not want the people who have moved up thru the country to clog up their northern borders. They show up at the table with they sad eyes and say that they also suffer from the influx of illegals into their country.
It's way better to let them percolate up into the US, they become our problem.
And, while I admire the people who look at it more as a human rights issue?
It rankles my rear that it's solely looked at in that light. It's way more involved than uprooting people who are here in the states illegally.
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I was watching a Nat Geo program about the AZ border.
The drug cartels and THEIR contributions to the problems are just bringing more problems to an already over taxed Border Patrol.
Actually, anyone who isn't a Native American is an illegal immigrant.
OMG someone please call the fashion police.
Hence my asking you all to bug out of the U.S. by the 15th, yet you are all still here.;)
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I have to chime in here because I was thinking about a situation in my family that is going on at the moment-it also brings in the idea that calling people "insects" is wrong.
Part of my parent's estate includes a home they bought, paid for, and rented out.
After the 94 earthquake the renters moved out and I helped my dad renovate parts of the home by putting in drywall.
It's a small two bed/1 BR and had charm.
The next set of tenants moved in and began the destruction of the place.
When they moved out, they TOOK THE WATER HEATER and replaced it with a POS one they found.
The next set of tenants moved in and soon were joined by 6-7 people.
They moved and w.o telling my mom and turned the place over to another family.:eek:
During this time my AH brother began to pick up the rent and 'took over' maintaining the place. (I was the one who would go over and fix things because he is inept and cannot fix things to save his life.:rolleyes:) Thank god it's his problem now-there's more to the drama, but that is more family than immigrants.
He was raising the rent on the tenants until they got smart and began to call the city for things that went wrong with the place.
They are illegal aliens and use the laws here to protect them and make life harder for the legitimate folks in the community.
(When I went to collect the rent after my mother's death, the POS woman told me that I would not get it because I had to show a letter from an attorney..)
I fixed a sliding window at the back of the property, It was broken to put in an air conditioner. The drywall was smashed and holed all over the house, the house stinks of rancid grease and door jambs are written on and carved into.
All the windows were replaced in the summer of 08 and most are broken, again.
They built a shed next to the garage, wired it from the house and put a washer and dryer inside. They routed the gray water into the cesspool and flood the back yard repeatedly.
They have about 6 cars parked in the front yard of the house and have killed any vegetation in the area.
The house started as a nice little place and has turned into nothing more than a frame with open windows and holes in the walls.
All because my mom and brother would not take a stand against these people who act and live like animals because they are afraid of having the city come down on THEIR heads because of the conditions these morons cause for themselves.
There, I said it.
They act like insects/locusts/animal and devour/destroy everything in their path, yet refuse to respect the owners of the homes that they are allowed to live in.
So, while everyone deserves the right to live and prosper?
These morons scream about justice and human rights when they are the biggest problem in areas of our country.
They refuse to intergrate legally and when they show up illegally, they have no qualms about throwing our laws into out faces.
God bless em, they pretty much put it all on the line by getting here, but GDI,
they could show some respect for dirt that they live on.:mad:
I am seriously raging about the fantasy of Human Rights.
Having your HRs violated is living in Darfur with a screwed up government.
It's living on the hills of Rio de J and having your house disappear under a landslide.
It's betting stoned for being a woman in and Arab country..
IT's having limbs cut off as punsihment for crimes.
Seriously?
Just like the post about the burqa wearing beeyotch that gets a ticket then begins to complain about the laws of that land?
We bend over backwards-washing stations for cabbies in Chicago?- to make immigrants feel at home and we get, in return-slapped in the face while these people try and wear down our laws.
Trust me, soon we will have a 'made up' holiday, like Kwanzaa, just for the Arab population. all because we are violating their human rights for not giving them a paid holiday...
You guys can give them what they want.
I live in America.
I haven't left the U.S. by May 15th because I don't have my papers in order to enter Mexico legally as yet. I hope you can give me some more time to get things together. No one wants to sponsor me?:( If I had a sponsor I could get out of here & move across the border legally. I need a sponsor that would treat me with respect. I will do an honest days work for an honest days pay. Anyone out there hiring? :)
Well said Richard.
We extend the helping hand only to be bitten. And if we speak out against that, it's called racism.
The cretins who run our country's listen to people like Caseysmom who believe that the human rights for illegal immigrants are more important than the human rights of residents within her own country.
For want of a better label for illegal immigrants, lets just call them "Queue Jumpers", for that is exactly what they are.
Bottom line______________________
They are breaking our law.
Now they want us to change our language because they can't or want learn it.
They want equal rights when they are not suppose to even be here.
This is no different then outright stealing.
If you were waiting in a resturant with your family and friends and some illigels came in, wanted a table right now, free food to feed their poor hungrey family what would you do? Throw their sorry behinds out, or buy them a meal with your hard earned money?
That is really the question for all of us private and government, what should we do with free loaders that have no right to be here.
I have to edit my gripe about the 'made up' holidays...
I am also not a huge fan of "Puerto Rican Day" - Kiss me, I'm Puerto Rican!
Cinco de Mayo either....
At my old job we had a nice one day deal called "International Day".
The hospital arranged for caterers to bring in ethnic food and they turned the cafeteria into a buffet, some people would dress in their native garb, we had a nice meal and fun going from table to table checking out the vibe.
I am all for celebrating your roots, but think we have gone overboard with the idea.
I propose we an American Holiday to celebrate the U.S.
Let's call it Tax Year. It will start on April 16th and run until April 15th.
We can all work in unison to pay our taxes, so we can have an even better country!
The colors will be red, white, blue and green, the color of money.;)
No one will be left out and everyone will be included. We can tweak it to celebrate participating in the running of the country.......
On the April 15th we can party and celebrate the end of another year of hard work and unity.....:eek:;):D
In school we were taught that the US was a melting pot where people from all over the world came here to live & have the freedoms they could not enjoy in their homelands. They actually had more freedom then we do now. :eek:
I am very proud of our melting pot status it is one of the things that makes this country so great.
However for it to be as fair as possible rules need to be followed so that one person or one nationalty does not have an unfair advantage over others.
People from all nations have a right to come here to have a better life they better darn well do it legally however.
And not just have a baby so that the baby is legal and they can stay, that really bothers me. A baby should be wanted for itself not for legal status.
It has been two years now since the Fed's raided an area town & took 389 Hispanic people off to processes them. The workers that were illegal along with their families were sent back to Mexico. It turned out a third of the town was sent back to Mexico. They came here to work & were treated very badly by another group of people. There were legal workers too. They lost their jobs, didn't get paid because the plant closed. It was & is still a real mess. The old immigration laws have to be changed. The sponsors have to be held responsible. I don't know how long our country can hold up to all this? The Fed's can raid a little town but can't seem to take care of the border & illegals streaming in? There must be something wrong with our government? I know I am sick of the stinking lying politicans that are running this country.:mad:
Until people forget about how much money congressman/senator X brought back to their district and finally vote the bastards out, nothing is going to change.Quote:
I know I am sick of the stinking lying politicans that are running this country.
A constant in the news is how upset people are with congress and politics in general........yet over 90% of the incumbents who run for re-election for their office win.
Can't have it both ways, people. Your guy is part of the problem too.
Our guy has been there so long he has cob webs all over him.:)
Those pollies live in a different world than ours....I'm sure.
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress...6601811050.jpg
I know, I know....we're talking about illegal immigrants. ;)
RE the above pic.....they're immigrants also.
I know, LH, Bering Strait and all.... :) When I saw the pic, it made me think of this thread.
Hmmm....makes me wonder if anthropologists have figured out WHO the first race on earth was, will all respect to the Adam and Eve story believers...
http://history-world.org/paleolithic1.htm (WARNING! My Anti-Virus detected and blocked a Rogue Spyware virus when I went to this page)
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Evolution Of The Hominids
Who the ancestors of early humans were and when and where tools were first made are much debated questions in scholarly circles. According to the theory of evolution, a crucial development occurred when the ape family became differentiated into the tree-dwelling apes and the ground-dwelling types known as hominids ("pre-humans" or "protohumans"). The remains of Australopithecines ("Southern Apes"), the earliest known hominids, were first discovered in South Africa in 1924. Autralopithecus had an erect posture but an apelike brain.
Since World War II, and especially during the 1970s, our knowledge of the hominids and their relation to the genus Homo ("man") has been rapidly growing. The dominant present view is that Australopithecus was succeded by three species of the genus Homo: Homo habilis, Homo erectus, and Homo sapiens. (A genus contains one or more species. The genus name is capitalized and precedes the species name, which is not capitalized.)
Three major sites in East Africa have produced a remarkable collection of Australopithecine fossils. Between 1972 and 1977, an expedition led by C.D.
Johanson worked at Hadar in Ethiopia. The Hadar collection comprises at least thirty-five individuals, with one female skeleton - named Lucy after the Beatles' song "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" - nearly 40 percent complete and between 3.0 and 3.5 million years ago.
I have read books written by Donald Johanson, and I definately believe that this man is too hasty in his writings on paleoanthropology, I share the same opinions as do the Leakey's.......I'm a follower of their works to a word.
A little on the Leaky family.............
British / Kenyan archaeologist and anthropologist who became famous for his academic work centered on human origins. Louis Leakey, his wife Mary, and their second son Richard made the key discoveries that have shaped our understanding of the first men. Richard Leakey and his wife, Maeve, sustain a family legacy of research that is now, with the work of their daughter Louise, three generations deep.
"To me it's a question of being able to look backward and give the present a root... To give meaning to where we are today, we need to look at where we've have come from." (Richard Leakey, in National Geographic, February 1998)
Louis Leakey was born in Kabete, British East Africa, now Kenya, into a missionary family. At the age of twelve he found his first fossils, and knew that he wanted to be an archeologist. Leakey graduated from Cambridge, and set out to prove Darwin's theory that Africa was humankind's homeland. At that time it was believed that early man originated in somewhere Asia. Between the years 1926 and 1935 he led a series of expeditions in East Africa in search of man's fossil ancestors. He was interested in particular Olduvai Gorge, a 300-foot-deep, thirty-mile-long chasm not far from the Ngorongoro Crater. It was made famous by a German entomologist named Wilhelm Kattwinkel, who first discovered its value in 1911.
Leakey dug at Olduvai two decades without finding anything especially significant. His first marriage with Frieda Leakey ended in divorce in 1933, when he met and fell in love with 20-year-old Mary Douglas Nicol; they married in 1936. With Mary he collected early manmade tools, mostly made of basalt and quartzite, and fossilized bones of many extinct mammals. His first major discovery was the jaw of a pre human creature called Proconsul. In 1945 Leakey became the curator of the Coryndon Memorial Museum at Nairobi. In the late 1940s and early 1950s he also served as a spy for the British government and acted as a translator in court in 1952-53 during the trial of Jomo Kenyatta, the leader of the independence party. As a conservationist, Leakey was active in promoting game preserves in East Africa. His interests and writings were wide, including all aspects of African natural history, primate behaviour and the origins of man.
From the 1950s the Leakeys expeditions to Olduvai Gorge produced several important discoveries of early primate fossils, named Zinjanthropus (now called Australopithecus boisei), which Mary Leakey found in 1959 from the lowest and oldest excavation site. The discovery of "Zinj" made the Leakeys famous. Louis wrote an article for the National Geographic magazine and estimated that Zinjanthropus was 600,000 years old, in which he was wrong. Using a new method of dating, the carbon-14 technique, geophysicists from the University of California at Berkeley concluded that the site was 1.75 million years old. But the excavations brought to light a rich fossil fauna.
Among Leakey's academic protegees were Dian Fossey, who studied mountain gorillas, and Jane Goodall, who became famous for her studies of the behavior of chimpanzees. Leakey stayed long periods at the London home of Vanne Goodall, Jane Goodall's mother. When Louis began spending less and less time at Olduvai, and concentrated on raising funds and lecturing, the place became Mary's domain, where she spent most of the next 25 years. Personally and professionally Mary and Louis lived separate lives from the mid-1960s.
In 1978 Mary Leakey found a trail of clear ancient hominid footprints of two adults and a child - some 3.5 million years old - impressed and preserved in volcanic ash from a site in Tanzania called Laetoli. They belonged to a new hominid species, best represented by the 3.2 million-year-old Lucy skeleton, which was found at Hadar, Ethiopia, by Donald Johanson . "It is tempting to see them as a man, a woman and a child," Mary Leakey later wrote. The Lucy skeleton on the other hand arose a bitter debate. Mary and Richard Leakey criticized Donald Johanson for proclaiming a new species too hastily - the fossils could be a mix of several different species.
From 1961 to 1964 the Leakeys and their son Jonathan unearthed fossils of Homo habilis, "handy man", the oldest known primate with human characteristics and discovered in 1967 Kenyapithecus africanus. The Leakeys claimed that Homo habilis had walked upright. "Until then the idea that two hominids could occupy the same area at the same time had been unacceptable to most scientists," Mary Leakey wrote in Disclosing the Past (1984). Also evidence of human habitation in California, more than 50 000 years, old was found.
Louis Leakey died in London in 1972 at the age of 69. In the same year his son Richard Leakey, who directed National Museum of Kenya, reported the discovery of a 1.8 million-year old skull of modern humans from Koobi Fora. Three years later he discoverd the skull of Homo erectus, estimated at 1.6 million years old, and in 1984 he and another paleontologist discovered a virtually complete Homo erectus skeleton. In 1989 Richard Leakey abandoned fossil hunting for wildlife conservation. President Daniel Arap Moi appointed Leakey head of what is now the Kenya Wildlife Service. He signed in 1994 amid politically motivated accusations of mismanagement, only to be reinstated by Moi 4,5 years later. As a result of an airplane crash, Leakey lost both legs below the knees, but he has continued his scientific explorations. Mary Leakey died in Nairobi on December 9, 1996, at the age of 83.
I think we all orginally come from outer space & are related to the one eyed green eyed purple people eaters. :D
You're from Venus, I'm from Mars!
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Lost Angeles was handed a nice letter from AZ saying, Seventh-letter You!
HAHAHAHAHA.
The El Lay city council passed a boycott of AZ- so AZ responded in kind.
I cannot type in what I think.....AZ threatened to pull the 25% of electricity they supply to California....
I love it.
Watch the politicians back pedal.
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And WTF is BO doing with the prez of MEXICO?
Apologizing?
And what is it with the State Dept. apologizing to CHINA for the AZ law.
Them godless commie morons violate human rights every minute of the day and WE ARE APOLOGIZING?
Hell hath frozen over, I feel it in my heart.:o:confused:
What a sight to see.......Wom I loved the info you posted, I remember reading about Lucy oh so many years ago, only a mirco-second but 30 years or so ago.
I was amazed and have always believed we came from apes or ape like people. One just has to look into their eyes and see the human in them. SCARY! And their hands.......
Evolution happens all around us everyday yet some people are afraid to grasp that theroy that we might have come from apes and instead believe we women came from the rib of man in a magic garden of Eden where everything is perfect, there is no sin, one does not age and all is created by a mystical being. I always found it to be a fairy tale, stanger then Alice in Wonderland.
And now for thousands of years humans kill each other in the name of the mystical God who speaks of love, forgiveness and understanding. Why does the killing, and judgement go on in the name of this mystical God? I do not know.