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Yes, Promote is very different than provide, however,providing a basic level of education to all citizens (give a man a fish/teach a man to fish) would definitely be promoting the general welfare of the state. I would again refer you to the Constitution of 1780 of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, written by Pres. Adams. If a founder didn't have an idea of what the founders wanted, who does?
This update just in...............:D
The Tonight Show
Conan O'Brien: President Obama plans to make a televised speech to the nation's students during school hours. Many Republicans are planning to keep their kids home from school in protest. As a result, those kids have voted Obama "Best President Ever."
Catty - sweet of you to care but ...Bay of Pigs was an attempt by the US to send people to Cuba to kill Castro. Refugees from Cuba - most of whom came over in the late 50's were not a threat - well except to the English language in Miami. There was another influx later when Castro let folks leave Cuba - many criminals he wanted rid of. Still not an invasion and still not a threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
The Cuban missile crisis that occurred after the failed invasion of Cuba involved the Soviet Union - not Russia. And it was about the Soviet Union putting nuclear weapons in Cuba.
I was a very young child when these things happened (although I do remember the drills) and I really, really doubt the fear of Cuba ever existed (it is a poor poor small country) or that the memories of huddling under our school desks because of the missile crisis is what is driving any behavior today. A takeover of the US government was never a part of the equation.
Unfortunately, I remember this all too well. My ex was a Marine stationed at Pendleton and we were newlyweds. I arrived at Pendleton on a Friday morning, and since base housing would not be available for a couple of weeks, we were staying at the Hostess House on base. On Saturday, hubby's brother drove up from San Diego (he was stationed there in the Navy) and drove us down there to stay with him and his family for the weekend (we had no car). When we got back on Sunday night, there was a note on our room door for hubby to report to his c.o. - he was being shipped out to Cuba on Monday morning. Fortunately hubby always had a way with words, and when he explained the situation that he and I were in, he got out of going. I was frantic - imagining I was going to be a widow before I had a chance to be a wife. When we did get housing - it was very strange indeed. It was like a community devoid of men - you basically saw just women and children (and an occasional man) - since the rest had shipped out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
So were we afraid of Cuba?? - I doubt it. But were we afraid of Cuba's leader and what he was capable of?? - you bet. We could have faced annihilation at his hands, so there wouldn't have been any government left to take over.
I was in NYC, a newly graduated RN, when the Cuban Missile crisis happened. My soon-to-be husband was stationed on a Destroyer in Norfolk, Virginia - all leaves were canceled.
I admit, I was more than a wee bit nervous. I figured NYC would be a grand target for one of their missiles. Each night I went to bed, wondering if the city would be there when/if I woke up in the morning.
I still have mushroom cloud nightmares.
I just don't think the Bay of Pigs or the Cuban Missile crisis has anything to do with why some parents are afraid to let their kids listen to Obama. Or think he is a socialist.
I doubt if many parents of school age children today remember 1961 and 1962.
LOLOLOLOLOL
Adult please.
COMMUNISM happened to be the 'best' thing for the United States from the early sixties until the wall fell.
All you all remember 13 days where a piece of wood over your head would save you......It's not just about you, you and you.
Bwahahahahahhahahahaha.
Fear of Cuba or the nukes they had pointed at us?
Read HIROSHIMA by John Hershey. Make sure you reread the parts about the
soldiers who were at the anti aircraft batteries when the bomb went off.
It's a pretty good arguement against using an effing nuke again.
Grace.
Nervous or scared poopless?:eek:
I was simply commenting on your statement where you said you doubt the fear of Cuba ever existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
And as far as remembering 1961 and 1962 - I wonder how many people are aware of how truly close to the end that we really were??? :eek:
I agree with you. It was a terrifying time and incredible close to disaster.
But I believe it was the Soviet Union that was feared - and that was the threat!
I was responding to the suggestion that we feared a Cuban invasion.
Yes, it was the Soviet Union, not Cuba. Cuba just happened to be the proposed launching point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Cuba~Soviet Union - back then it was the same equation. Remember the song "Sixteen Tons"? - if the right one don't getcha then the left one willQuote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
and...the Bay of Pigs was the US trying to invade Cuba - not Cuba trying to invade the US.
Yes - I know......Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Here we go again with people not knowing history.:rolleyes:
It was not the U.S. that was trying to invade Cuba.
The U.S. helped the Cube Ex-pats try to invade the island.
They 'helped', then wussed out of the whole deal leaving the ex-p's to go at it alone.
Don't forget to blame the U.S. for the Tunguska incident on 1908.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
You are right on the first point.
CIA....helping Cuban exiles ...Are you suggesting the CIA is not a part of the US?
Give it a rest. My point was...still is...I do not believe the Anti-Obamans are not driven by a lingering fear of an invasion of the US or Russia.:rolleyes::rolleyes: