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Dang it, it is hilarious to listen to people banter!! Especially about politics :D
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This thread has gotten my unnoficial *Best Thread to Lurk in* award!
I have no comments, other than:
Dang it, it is hilarious to listen to people banter!! Especially about politics :D
Hi Richard
Wilson here.
Just got through reading all your nonsense regarding Iraq and propaganda and yadda yadda yadda….
“In December 2002, Bush seized 800 incriminating pages of the 2,000-page Iraqi report to the U.N., pages that contained the names of U.S. companies that supplied arms to Saddam, including details on weapons, dual-use technologies, and materials of mass destruction. That censored report, which rightfully belongs to the victims, not Bush, constitutes a major piece of evidence for any impartial war crimes tribunal.”
From one article Richard, but if you’d like to read more…
“More information trickled onto the back pages of “The New York Times” and “The Washington Post”. The main facts are no longer in dispute. In violation of the Geneva Protocol of 1925 (which outlaws chemical warfare), the Reagan-Bush administration authorized the sale of poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, from anthrax to bubonic plague, throughout the '80s. In 1982, while Saddam Hussein constructed his machinery of war, Reagan and Bush removed Iraq from the State Department list of terrorist states.”
http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/time.html
I think you’re suffering from “The Boy in the Bubble Syndrome” Richard if you believe for one moment that America “is above” using chemical weapons anytime anywhere it pleases. And the hypocrisy of this verifiable fact in the face of your (and many other Americans) criticism of Iraq is anything but hypocrisy I’d entertain your explanation.
“Become familiar with Agent Orange and the Health of Our Vietnam Veterans”
http://www1.va.gov/agentorange
The US Biological Warfare in Korea
http://www.kimsoft.com/2000/mbc.htm
From cluster munitions to depleted uranium artillery shells, to chemical and biological warfare and of course not to forget the use of nuclear arms against a civilian population, no nation can hold a candle to the United States.
You might want to pull your head out of the sand sometime soon here Richard or I’m going to have to give you a history lesson you won’t like much.
Hmmm, WilsonVB..........why is your style so familiar?
Well Richard, it's probably lucky for the rest of the world that we're not politicians (or Prime Ministers or Presidents)! My friends down in our local pub used to call me "Fowlie of the F.O." (The Foreign Office). This was possibly meant ironically, probably due to my occasional(?) lack of tact or sense of diplomacy.
There is another interesting aspect of this whole thing. As a kid I LOVED America (I still think it's a fantastic country). Living in the forties and fifties in drab old England, it was the dream place to go. I used to cut adverts out of American magazines and stick them on the bedroom wall. Anything American was great, The Marlboro Man, white walled tires, you name it. We used to follow the American GI's around and try to get invited to the PX (I think it was). A wonderful, colorful world full of Zippo lighters, multi colored plastic transistor radios and other such unattainable goodies. How sad that America has lost so much respect and is now so reviled over large parts of the world. So sad. This isn't an attack on America, it's an attack on the present administration. I'm disappointed. America DOES need a change!
But we shouldn't turn this into an "argument" now should we! (We are on Pet Talk after all). I'd prefer to see it as "jousting" as Gini so aptly put it. At least she didn't say we were "scrapping" or "bickering" or "brawling". Jousting is much more civilized isn't it, almost chivalrous!
So here we go again, though I must admit it's a little bit like trying to have a discussion with a brick wall:
"I have a problem when a person adjusts the truth to fit their own agenda".
My goodness! … you must have a massive problem with George and Dick and all the others in the White House! Not to mention the overwhelming evidence of their obsessive secrecy.
"Subscribing to someone's twisted truth?" You want that, subscribe to the White House.
"By the way, YOU seem so adamant about us kicking Saddam's Arse to a hole in the ground you seem to be a little glum about it. What's the problem??"
You just don't understand do you. Or perhaps you don't WANT to understand. The problem is about lies and deceit and manipulation of the truth, not to mention gigantic doses of hypocrisy.
"DUDE...we had about 3,000 people turned to little pieces on 9/11.. what is the number you need in order to take action??
I get the idea that some people snickered a little bit when we took it on the chin."
You've got no idea what you're talking about or who you're talking to. I've got all the live news on that and the fantastic documentary made by the two French brothers on tape. We must NEVER forget what those primitive savages did, I think these programs should be repeated regularly, so no one can ever forget the horror and injustice of it. Of course it was an act of war, and HAD to lead to retaliation.
"Well, You tread on us, we tread back"
I don't tread on anyone. That wasn't a threat again was it?
“If my chest thumping-God Bless America attitude is a problem, remember, It's my guaranteed right under the First Amendment.
And that is my truth, not some edited, watered down waste of celluloid that masquerades as the truth …"
Then how come Michael Moore is (quote from your link): "abusing the First Amendment and is hurting us worse than the enemy has" for doing exactly the same thing as you are? Perhaps your "chest thumping-God Bless America attitude" is hurting YOUR credibility too. The comment sounds a bit too much like hypocrisy to me.
"can that sticking the tongue out icon at the end of your missive be perceived as infantile????"
Ha, great! I just thought a smiley might lighten up the message a bit, I hadn't even noticed that he stuck his tongue out! I'd do it again though!
… and finaly, I still can't understand your sarcasm concerning the Danish submarine. The US used them too didn't they? Here's an even better one for you. They sent a snow plow to Saudi Arabia (by mistake they said), but apparently it came in extremely useful. Pushing sand around or something. Bit embarrassing though. You should be able to get a cheap laugh out of that. Tell all your friends how stupid the Danes are. Isn't that how you usually get your laughs, making fun of people who are trying to help you? It's not a very good idea in the long run though.
By the way, sorry we've hijacked your thread Soledad, hope you have found it entertaining at least! ;)
WilsonVB, Gini said "familiar". I say transparent. Jonza and I have much in common, politically wise, but it's not quite the vitriolic spewing you appear of which to be so fond. I can appreciate the differences we have here - Jonza, Richard & I - but don't appreciate the personal uglyness you sprout. I CAN take you out..
lbaker
I simply quoted articles from newspapers and the Internet!
If you don't like the truth about America you'd best join Richard in the litterbox searching for something that smells better than the truth you both don't like to confront.
Isn't it time America grew up?
Hello everyone!
Millions upon millions of people vehemently expressed their disapproval of the Bush administrations decision to invade Iraq. Bush nor the Senate nor Congress listened to the protests of neither thousands in the streets of America nor millions around the world. ‘After the fact’ a preponderance of evidence clearly establishes that the rationale cited for this pre-emptive military action was based on faulty inaccurate and egregiously “misinterpreted” data. Data that some have characterized as having been manipulated to exaggerate the “urgency” (to quote President Bush) of the need to militarily disarm Saddam Hussein and prevent the proliferation of WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction).
What we do know with considerable surety is that one-year after the invasion, “evidence” provided the United Nations in a summary presented by Colin Powel to the Security Council has been established as entirely false if not intentionally misleading.
We know that after the investigation of the 9/11 atrocity that there is not now nor ever was a credible link between Al Qeada and Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship.
We know that overwhelming anecdotal evidence exists suggesting links between Bush petroleum interests and the Bin Laden family existed prior to September 11/2001 and that official airport flight records support the contention that private Saudi flights left the United States under Whitehouse authority while all other private and commercial air traffic had been suspended by the FAA.
We know that alleged “stockpiles” of WMDs have not been found and every indication suggests that neither the invading U.S. military nor the Untied States itself was ever under any existing ‘threat’ given the presumed availability of chemical biological and nuclear weapons such stockpiles would have presented. Quite simply, there has been no conclusive evidence supporting this contention in any way shape or form.
To the contrary, the people of the United States have witnessed the evisceration of the twelfth and fourteenth amendments by the PATRIOT ACT and the Whitehouse continues to urge greater development of even more “security” cabinets and departments. The Bush administration has demonstrated its disdain for international law while having cited that very same international law in legitimizing the “need” for immediate military action against Iraq.
Many folk aren’t ‘connected’ to the WWW (World Wide Web) and rely solely upon information conveyed through nationally televised news broadcasts and major daily newspapers in the United States for their sense of “what’s going on in the world”.
The New York Times has published an admission that it presented “unverified” and as it turns out absolutely false information regarding Iraq’s pursuit of weapons-grade Uranium and “centrifuge” components used in enriching plutonium to weapons grade material. In fact to their credit the editors of the New York Times have admitted to a lengthy list of misleading and quite plainly, “false” news reports that may have influenced Americans to erroneous conclusions regarding the purported Iraqi weapons programs and weapons stockpiles.
The Washington Post has never forthrightly offered a similar admission, however there exists an overwhelming preponderance of evidence supporting the contention that the Washington Post’s reports were similarly unreliable.
America has lived through the shame of Regan and North’s ‘deal’ with Iranians to supply money and weapons to the Contras in Nicaragua. America has lived with the legacy of lies perpetrated by Richard Nixon’s Watergate and Lyndon Johnson’s policies during the “Bright and Shining Lie” of the Viet Nam era.
If anything, even if Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11” is as some have described it a clumsy ill conceived and poorly presented “shlockumentary” that plays “loose and free” with the facts surrounding the Bush administration, it does invite serious questions. Questions regarding the Bush family’s relationship to the Saudis and the ‘rationale’ behind America’s change in policy from a nation that defended itself in the face of aggression to a nation prepared to prosecute invasion on highly questionable grounds.
America has suffered at the hands of the Bush administration and the greater suffering is and ought to be felt by the people of America. Is there any reason of any kind to believe anything this administration tells its own people?
What you are saying is NOT my issue here. Much of what you are saying I truly agree with. My issue is the personal slurring of another PetTalker that I happen to be fond of.. not because of politics or "speechifying" but because of the honest care we are SUPPOSED to have here. GET IT?
"join Richard in the litterbox"
Now THAT'S an intellegent statement!!
Forget it Laurie. Some people will never GET IT!Quote:
Originally posted by lbaker
What you are saying is NOT my issue here. Much of what you are saying I truly agree with. My issue is the personal slurring of another PetTalker that I happen to be fond of.. not because of politics or "speechifying" but because of the honest care we are SUPPOSED to have here. GET IT?
"join Richard in the litterbox"
Now THAT'S an intellegent statement!!
Wilson, with all due respect, Richard is a friend of many people here and when you insult him, you are insulting us too! I agree that everyone was a right to his/her own opinion but it can be expressed in a tactful manner.
You've made suggestions that he lives in a bubble and has his head stuck in the sand; if you were to see him in action like I have, you'd back down pretty fast.
And that's all I've got to say about that.
Gosh, I really feel very unloved! All the aspersions that have been cast at me in the course of political discussion on here and no one has EVER rushed to my defense! :( :(
ES!! You're breaking my heart. It's too bad you don't have your own fan club on PT like RICHARD. Maybe you should be more non-sensical and talk out of your a** more often. ;)
She does have a fan club! ME! :p I don't think I have ever found any disagreement with what Sara has had to say in the Dog House. She's breaking my heart too!! :(Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
ES!! You're breaking my heart. It's too bad you don't have your own fan club on PT like RICHARD. Maybe you should be more non-sensical and talk out of your a** more often. ;)
You are all SO unfair to not defend Sara.........so unfair. ;)
Sara: as much as you and Richard argue, I do believe there is an element of respect between you and I've never seen either one of you openly insult each other intentionally. Wilson, on the other hand, has just joined and has chosen to immediately attack Richard without even knowing him. What else can I say except, Sara, next time I see you, I'll buy you a drink!!!:)Quote:
Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Gosh, I really feel very unloved! All the aspersions that have been cast at me in the course of political discussion on here and no one has EVER rushed to my defense! :( :(
Yes, Sara, I think that the issue really is that Wilson was a newcomer and immediately launched into RICHARD.
When I've had my arguments with RICHARD no one rushed to my defense either (though I do recall a number of others chiming in that they "agree with RICHARD 100%"). We can start our own club. :p
“The difference between Islamic Jihad and American Politics is only one person gets hurt when the American's head explodes.”
Of course no Moslem could possibly find this remark insulting could they?
“Wilson, with all due respect, Richard is a friend of many people here and when you insult him, you are insulting us too!”
If “our gang” determines the measure of ‘acceptability’, I suppose there’s no arguing with that kind of logic given that an insult passes muster and truth is made the victim.
Nice visiting PT, but surrender of the freedom to respond to an insult on the basis of a ‘clique’ mentality insults more than simply the slur against Islam, it offends the founding principles found in the American constitution.
Please continue, I won’t be bothering you again.
Please stay. I agree with your points and have found the info you provided very useful. Everyone with a strong opinion that could be construed as left of center gets into it with RICHARD. It's sort of an initiation rite.
Soledad, is that REALLY necessary? What have you accomplished?Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
ES!!. Maybe you should be more non-sensical and talk out of your a** more often. ;)
Great, you played your trump card. Now what will you do?
So your intellectual discussion has come down to this?
Seems to me there are just too many "notes" in this music. The brilliant symphony has gone sour.
WilsonVB take your six posts with you please!
I'm sorry to have disappointed you, truly. You're one of my favorites here. But I don't understand why you don't ask the same thing of RICHARD when he relentlessly and regularly bulldozes through everyone elses' opinions.Quote:
Originally posted by gini
Soledad, is that REALLY necessary? What have you accomplished?
Great, you played your trump card. Now what will you do?
So your intellectual discussion has come down to this?
Seems to me there are just too many "notes" in this music. The brilliant symphony has gone sour.
WilsonVB take your six posts with you please!
May I remind you all that this was the reason why I started this thread. The notes went sour in my opinion when RICHARD derailed the thread entirely and completely ignored the purpose of it.Quote:
I thought I'd start a thread for those who have actually seen the movie to discuss how they felt about it.
You aren't unloved, sweetie - it's just that some of us stay out of the discussion when it turns political, partisan, and not-so-nice! In fact some folks stay out of the Dog House altogether!Quote:
Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Gosh, I really feel very unloved! All the aspersions that have been cast at me in the course of political discussion on here and no one has EVER rushed to my defense! :( :(
I consider myself to be quite a bit left of center, and in fact the only Bush I want to see in the White House is in the back yard garden of the House my taxes pay for and has roses on it. Sara's political opinions - and Jonza's - are quite similar to mine.. but I draw the line (in the sand that in some places should be blasted into glass, but I digress) I draw the line at infantile personal slurs. Jousting among friends, YES! Comments like "sharing a litterbox"?? ... get over yourself "Wilson". That's it. End of story
“(in the sand that in some places should be blasted into glass, but I digress)”
No you haven’t lbaker, your hatred for what you’re incapable of understanding and support for the use of the nuclear ‘solution’ comes shining through clear as a bell.
“Fahrenheit 9/11” doesn’t suggest for a moment that anything and everything the world is faced with having to “live with” coming out of that “sand” (you’d scorch into glass) should be granted carte blanche. What in fact it suggests is that the greed and manipulation of petroleum interests is intimately tied to that “sand” (read Saudi Arabia). Scorch that sand and exterminate the “problem”, is the solution of the tyrannical and puts you on the same level of those whom you wish to kill. How very “leftist” or is that “liberal” of you!
I can hardly wait for another lecture from Karen on the inappropriateness of “personalizing” comments.
Great little Gulag you’ve got running here! Just chock full of kind gentle people advocating the incineration of millions as a solution!
posted by Wilson: I can hardly wait for another lecture from Karen on the inappropriateness of “personalizing” comments.
Great little Gulag you’ve got running here! Just chock full of kind gentle people advocating the incineration of millions as a solution! >>>>>>>>>>>>
First, this is Karen's web sight. She tries her best to
keep this web site friendly as possible.
2nd, I do not now anything about you and you certainly
have a right to post your opinion thanks to
freedom of speach.
I also think Richard can take care of himself.
But what I do find rather strange, that it seems that
you have simply joined Pet Talk to only express
your political views.
I noticed only 1 post that was not politically
motivated on the cat thread about your kitty Pooka.
I found this rather strange since this
is basically a PET web sight.
If I am wrong, than please start including
some posts about yourself and your pets so
we can get to know you better.
I think the main problem is that Richard's "style" has a tendency to reinforce the increasingly wide spread idea of America as an intolerant and self-absorbed nation. At least for those of us who don't know him, in fact for a lot of people who aren't American. That's sad, as it obviously isn't true. I've got more or less used to it, but consider it very irritating, negative and counterproductive. There is seldom any rational argument or logic in the posts, they are just confusing, rude and offensive to other nationalities. This has often put me off, and I have cut down on my Pet Talk participation exactly because of this.
I'll never forget my first incursion into the Dog House. Here's a couple of quotes from some of Richards replies: "kick ass and take over denmark tour dates have not been given out yet … i'll post them when they become available", and: "just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the US armed forces, when they come to take over your country".
And from others: "more than I can say about those little insignificant countries who sit on their duff and wait for everyone else around them to keep the world safe".
These are acceptable then???
If Richard is going to be constantly arrogant, sarcastic and insulting to people, why do others not have the right to retaliate in kind without getting mobbed by his fan club? It all gets a bit one-sided doesn't it? Where's the tolerance and open-mindedness that the world needs so much more of? Richard's way of discussing political matters is a very bad advertisement for what the majority of Americans stand for. Don't forget, the Internet is an INTERNATIONAL forum, and Americans are, after all, only 4,54% of the worlds population. We've all got to somehow work it out together, with a bit more respect for our differences. You can't have "globalization" and unilateralism at the same time. That in itself is hypocritical.
This may be an American based forum (and very well run), but I think we should all respect the fact that we come from widely varied countries and cultures, and have many different opinions on the worlds' problems.
Richard - is it worth all these misunderstandings just to get a cheap laugh and a bit of applause from your fan club? Presumably it is.
… and by the way WilsonVB, although it's nice to know there are others who feel so strongly about all this, I didn't notice any "hatred for what you’re incapable of understanding and support for the use of the nuclear solution" in lbakers post. Or are you just being deliberately provocative?
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Two wrongs only make a bigger wrong.
I regret the ‘gulag’ comment and apologize to Karen for this hurtful remark.
I believe our existence as beings is a dynamic interaction and interrelationship between and among all things all beings and all life. In a private communication with Karen I suggested that if we all applied the same availability to kindness tolerance, and empathy toward one another as we’re more than prepared to extend to our pets, perhaps the propensity we often seem to exhibit in offering rash statements in the heat of passionate debate might be filtered through that same sensitivity ‘filter’ we use in our interrelationships with our animal companions.
An unkind or hurtful word once spoken can’t be ‘unspoken’. I can only examine my conscience and acknowledge that this behavior fails to reflect the respect and wonder I embrace for all living creatures. Failing to extend the greatest respect for life, for all life, and for the burdensome experiences people from different and in many ways ‘strange’ cultures must bear hurts us all.
I have not been very ‘successful’ in my few contributions to Pet Talk in furthering the notion of peace and tolerance and I owe everyone an apology.
Please accept my sincerest apologies and encourage each other to kindness love and respect in every way we each can by carefully weighing the impact our words may carry to other folk.
Peace and Respect to All
Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
When I've had my arguments with RICHARD no one rushed to my defense either (though I do recall a number of others chiming in that they "agree with RICHARD 100%
But, still love you. I'll pass on the comment that you made about me blowing wind......I had such HIGH hopes for you......I derailed the thread??????? It's your thread, get it back on track.....
Atcheson, Topeka and the Santa Fe.
P.s. you still can come over to the dark side anytime you want.
First of all.
VB Wilson,
Spaulding is my ball of choice. I have played outside setter and back row hitter.....I played a little with a college club team. Come to the net.
My comment was a little jab at the political views of AH MUR I CUNS....It seems that we can't handle a little political discussion without raising out BP, heart rate and sugar levels.
And any AMERICAN should find the same comment I made insulting....MY slam was at the people in the USA who can't use common sense, a little humor and patience when discussing politics.
It real funny when people want to physically attack you for your politics....especially funny when they have a problem with the war in Iraq. I'm not into the physical attacks......as a matter of fact I'll
let you get the first punch in..........
Jonza,
I haven't campaigned for a 'fan club', If anything,you all have contributed to THAT myth....You post, I answer and the funniest guy wins....
Here are a few tips, Lower your monthly dues, try humor and don't be so dour......smile and the world laughs at you.......I think..
DUDE,
Thanks for remembering my "greatest quips"!!!!! I don't hang on people's words....I tend to absorb them and let it go..........
And since we haven't taken over Denmark I think you owe me an apology........
Again,
They are cheap laughs.....have you been to a comedy club??? the cover and price of drinks are outrageous!!
Laurie.
If your political views are so polar opposite mine, why do we get along so well??? ;)
Slick and Gini,
welcome to the club....you too laurie!!
Sara,
I am still waiting for Eddie's picture of Edwina....
I tossed out a wager to you and YOU haven't replied. It was a gentleman's bet, you are no gentleman.
So,
I hereby declare myself the winner and World Champion.
The funniest thing about this thread is everyone is aghast, insulted and opinionated until some one poke a little hole in their beliefs......and automatically it's a personal insult.....lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES......
I've come to admire Soledad......Deep down she has come to understand what the game is.......It's nothing personal, it a little banter and a just and understanding that being different is something that brings people together......
Because we believe what we believe, and respect each other for it, it makes things not as serious.....
I talk outta my bottom and I know it.....It's when you do and don't realize it that gets you into trouble.....the stink gives you away....
I love you all dearly and want you to be happy So I think I will make an announcement that will satisfy everyone that isn't part of my fan club....
OPEN ENROLLMENT
The Richard Marching Band and Chowder Society is accepting applications now!!! just send 12.95 and I'll send you a parchment stating your enrollment. It also entitles you to agree with me on any opinion I state. And with any cash enrollment
you will be given a whit of humor and mirth in your life!!
Toodles!
Well...I'll certainly sleep easier tonight. I thought you were personally insulting me but....since you have yet to poke so much as a pin hole in any of my beliefs....I guess you haven't!Quote:
The funniest thing about this thread is everyone is aghast, insulted and opinionated until some one poke a little hole in their beliefs......and automatically it's a personal insult.....lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES......
Richard...this one is almost too easy....I agree with you that I am no gentlemen so how could it have been a gentlemen's bet with no gentlemen involved?????Quote:
I tossed out a wager to you and YOU haven't replied. It was a gentleman's bet, you are no gentleman.
and yes....
I agree with you I could stand to lose a few pounds (although a gentleman would not mention it...oh that's right....)Quote:
lighten up wilson, jonza, and ES
I can assure you it would NOT be a good thing if Jonza were to lose any!
I agree completely with these statements by Jonza. I gave upQuote:
Originally posted by jonza
I think the main problem is that Richard's "style" has a tendency to reinforce the increasingly wide spread idea of America as an intolerant and self-absorbed nation. At least for those of us who don't know him, in fact for a lot of people who aren't American. That's sad, as it obviously isn't true. I've got more or less used to it, but consider it very irritating, negative and counterproductive. There is seldom any rational argument or logic in the posts, they are just confusing, rude and offensive to other nationalities. This has often put me off, and I have cut down on my Pet Talk participation exactly because of this.
I'll never forget my first incursion into the Dog House. Here's a couple of quotes from some of Richards replies: "kick ass and take over denmark tour dates have not been given out yet … i'll post them when they become available", and: "just wait a few months and you can state your opinions to the US armed forces, when they come to take over your country".
And from others: "more than I can say about those little insignificant countries who sit on their duff and wait for everyone else around them to keep the world safe".
These are acceptable then???
If Richard is going to be constantly arrogant, sarcastic and insulting to people, why do others not have the right to retaliate in kind without getting mobbed by his fan club? It all gets a bit one-sided doesn't it? Where's the tolerance and open-mindedness that the world needs so much more of? Richard's way of discussing political matters is a very bad advertisement for what the majority of Americans stand for. Don't forget, the Internet is an INTERNATIONAL forum, and Americans are, after all, only 4,54% of the worlds population. We've all got to somehow work it out together, with a bit more respect for our differences. You can't have "globalization" and unilateralism at the same time. That in itself is hypocritical.
This may be an American based forum (and very well run), but I think we should all respect the fact that we come from widely varied countries and cultures, and have many different opinions on the worlds' problems.
Richard - is it worth all these misunderstandings just to get a cheap laugh and a bit of applause from your fan club? Presumably it is.
(not my beliefs) but any chance of getting a thoughtful, logical
response from Richard on this forum. I have no idea what persona he projects in person, but his written"style" is very off putting to a lot of caring, intelligent people.
:confused: :confused: Where is my 8 x 10 autographed glossy along with a life-sized poster for my wall??? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Slick and Gini,
welcome to the club....you too laurie!!
Oh, and aren't we supposed to get a monthly newsletter as well?? :confused:
I's like to apologize to the people on this thread for stirring up the pot....
I like to live on the edge and enjoy questioning the topics.....
and a few other things..
Yes, I am the ugly American......I mean, if people think that already, who am I to change their minds??
I might as well apologize for the US Olympic teams too...
And for Lance Armstrong and all the countries we invaded and still hold to this day.....
One of the scariest things on this planet are the people who are immovable from their beliefs, have no sense of humor or insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.....I may add that the muscle flexers are the same peace loving, anti-war protestors.....
:eek:
And since we have derailed the thread I think I'll go back to one of MY original questions....
Where are the two articles stating we used chemweps or napalm in Iraq?????????
If it's in a Micheal Moore movie it must be true!
;)
And Jonza,
I'll have to remind you that the Internet is an AMERICAN product......AL GORE invented it.:eek:
I only reacted to your characterization of my beloved country.
again, nothing personal......We aren't all self absorbed and arrogant....You have seen too many Ben Affleck movies.
And to my beloved fan base....
It's not a 8 x10 glossy, it's a dart board....
You'll know I am in trouble when I lose my sense of humor....As a matter of fact I get a huge laugh out of the mirror each morning....
Thank you, I'll be here all week and don't forget to tip your waitress.....
And whoever finds those articles, post them.....I haven't had any self loathing in a while.;)
:D :D :D A picture is worth a thousand words.Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.....I may add that the muscle flexers are the same peace loving, anti-war protestors.....:eek:
Good night all.
One of the scariest things on this planet are the people who are immovable from their beliefs, have no sense of humor or insist on flexing their muscles to prove a point.
There you go! Something we both agree on one hundred percent!
Try looking down the barrel of a gun held by an Afrikaans militiaman at 3 o'clock in the morning on a quiet country road. No humor in those eyes! No chance of changing his beliefs! Plenty of flexing of muscles! Yes, people like that are truly scary. But that's what I mean, there are situations where humor just isn't appropriate! I tried humility, luckily that worked.
I only reacted to your characterization of my beloved country.
It wasn't my characterization of your country, it was what I see as becoming a very widespread view of America. Sadly.
… again, nothing personal......We aren't all self absorbed and arrogant.
But that's EXACTLY what I was trying to point out. As I said: "That's sad, as it obviously isn't true". And by the way, who's Ben Affleck?
You'll know I am in trouble when I lose my sense of humor....As a matter of fact I get a huge laugh out of the mirror each morning.
I'm like that too, though I don't want to ruin my day by looking in the mirror at all. I don't think ANYBODY who knows me well would accuse me of not having a sense of humor!! My only defense against the madness going on in the world today is my humor. Check out the other threads I have posted on - Dear Phred, Pet Talk Confidential, The Cruise of the Feline Princess etc. And you don't have to tell me about black humor, I was brought up on "The Goon Show" and am a complete fan of Monty Python, Black Adder and similar madness.
There's a time and a place for everything. The serious problems we are discussing in the Dog House do not harmonize with the use of our own personal sense of humor (anywhere else is fine). Keep them for other threads. I have no problem at all with silliness there, in fact I love it, as I hope others have noticed.
Yes, I am the ugly American...... I mean, if people think that already, who am I to change their minds??
I actually doubt that, but are you aware that you might really appear so to people who only read your threads and don't know you personally? Why aren't you interested in changing their minds? Just seems unnecessarily self-effacing to me.
… and by the way, I'm not very good at being the member of any "club", never have been. In fact I've always been a bit of an anti-social loner. I don't even really have a country that I can say I'm a "member" of! I'd much prefer it that way. I'm just a member of the human race. This gives me the chance to fool myself into thinking I can be a bit more objective and neutral in my views. I doubt that it works though. ;)
Good Night Mrs. Calabash, where ever you are.Quote:
Originally posted by slick
:D :D :D A picture is worth a thousand words.
Good night all.
I do so like it when people "make nice" ;) :D Especially two of my favorites :cool:
I have been very down all day as a result of the direction this thread has taken. I have mulled it over and realized that in fact, I don't have a sense of humor....as defined herein. I do not think it is funny to call people names or belittle them because of their country of origin or religion or beliefs. I don't find belittling people funny at all.
So there you have it. I guess that is why I have never seen the humor in the Three Stooges...cruelty and pain just don't amuse me. I enjoy laughing with people, not at people.
So I'll leave this to those who find that type of thing entertaining.
Moore spoke at a horse track near Lost Angeles last night because the head of the college, where he was scheduled to speak, thought that the 37,000 dollars he was going to charge the institution was "too much" and the money should be spent on education.......Now, THAT'S a right wing conspiracy if I ever heard one....Imagine that, wanting to spend money on education!!
He also declined to accept the money that the students gathered, on their own, to pay for his visit.....I wonder where, if at all, the people got their money back..............
I wonder is he ever tossed a few ducats Lila Lipscomb's way...
You remember Lila, She appeared before after Moore's opus premiered....and then disappeared just as quickly-after Moore used her, and her son's death, to promote his 'comedy'.
By the way,
Moore's 60 city tour should net him 2.2 million dollars in fees.
Give me liberty or give me money!!!
What a patriot!!
;)
The only time I will make a comment about who won the election.
Hey Mikey!!!!
Que paso???? :confused:
I eagerly await your first post election interview.
Apparently not.Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
Does anyone think there will be a big impact because of it?
Only 9% of eligible voters saw the movie---overwhelmingly die hard Libs who were predisposed to agree with its contents.