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I heard that he found better "service" in Argentina.
With all the cutbacks in the Park Service, he thought about "Bungling in the Jungle"----in Argentina.:rolleyes::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by mruffruff
Holy Cow - now he admits to having had an affair!!
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(CNN) -- South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford admitted Wednesday, amid speculation over his whereabouts for the last several days, that he has been engaged in an extramarital affair with an Argentinian woman.
"I've been unfaithful to my wife," Sanford told a news conference in Columbia, the state capital. "I developed a relationship with what started as a dear, dear friend from Argentina."
His voice choking at times, Sanford apologized to his wife and four sons, his staff and supporters, and said he would resign immediately as head of the Republican Governors Association. The affair was discovered five months ago, Sanford said.
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Originally Posted by Grace
WHAT??
:confused:
One of our Elected Officials had an :eek: AFFAIR?
OH, say it isn't so!
:p
Let's look into Term Limits ...
I suggest about Two Weeks ... a Month, tops.
We prolly wouldn't need to have elections - just sign up for the weeks you'd
like to have the back-room sex lounge in the office of your choice.
:(
Two weeks? A month?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Maybe with a script of Viagra? But even then you have to call a doctor after 4 hours!
:D
What really ticks me off - this person, who can't keep it in his pants, goes on and on about the sanctity of marriage. The sanctity of WHOSE marriage. Sure isn't his. But he doesn't mind butting into the lives of others.
His web site states -
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Mark Sanford is against gay marriage and defines marriage as one man and one woman. He is also against letting gay couple adopt children.
What an AH, to use an expression of Richard's. Save us from people like this. He should resign as Governor and join a monastery. Invite Ensign and Spitzer and Craig and Foley along for the ride.
And Clinton and Edwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Thank you, I knew there were more names, but my mind was drawing a blank. Adding yet some more - Gingrich, Vitter, Hart. From an article in the NY Times last year -Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
My main point in my post, though, was the hypocrisy of Sanford. Preaching marital sanctity, running roughshod over any type of gay marriage or civil union - and look what he has done.Quote:
Congressmen, senators, governors, presidents, mayors — politicians at all levels keep starring in this familiar and non-partisan soap opera rerun. They engage in clandestine sexual entanglements, commonly cloaked in the tawdry textures of hotel pseudonyms and airport bathrooms and pay-by-the-hour copulation. All too often, their stealthy frolics then poison their political careers.
Well, his lover was a woman & not a under age male page.:rolleyes:
We all agree that people who preach and/or go against their 'values' are the worst kind of hypocrites.
Ladies, forgive me?
I think that the women who 'stand behind their men' whould do so with a sharp stick - to jam it in their rears as the cry for the media. Then they should poke themselve in THEIR rears for being the meek, jilted spouses.:rolleyes:
Nothing to forgive, Richard. I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Why? is it their fault the spouse cheated on them? Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
What should they do...scream and rant and rave in public??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Pleas, I would give no one such a response.
What is wrong with dignity in the face of insult and pain?
After further review?
The good Gov should resign his office-instead of taking care of his constituents, he chose to outsource his libido overseas. I am sure that there are many women in his home state that would have been more than happy to care for him,
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I also wonder about the women who 'allow' the hubby to seek 'companionship' outside the home (overseas?) then try to explain it away.
Is it really an affair when the wife signs off on it? Or is it a way to keep the husband from bothering her on those 'special' mornings? :eek: I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation- "Honey, go find a girlfriend and LEAVE ME ALONE! I really love the that big house, perks and all the other stuff you get for being the governor........"
Why does God always show up during the confessional news conference?
I love the llines about the kids and putting them thru the whole experience-If you REALLY wanted to keep your kids out of the spotlight, you should have stayed home and kept your pants up/
Sanford's wife doesn't need the Governor's perks - she has her own.
Jenny Sanford is a millionaire whose family fortune comes from the Skil Corp. power tool company. They met on Wall Street, where she was a vice president in mergers and acquisitions at Lazard Freres. He worked for Goldman-Sachs.
They met in the Hamptons, got hitched, and headed South, where Mark Sanford first got into real estate and then politics.
She doesn't need his money then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
But. she can get any power tool imaginable and he's supposed to feel safe at night, when he sleeps???
Nope, I don't think so.:confused::eek:
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The dude can throw down some romance on paper, eh?:D
The ones I feel sorry for are his four boys.:( Their Dad went to spend
Father's Day with his girl friend instead of his own kids. That sucks.
What women "allow the hubby to seek companionship outside the home?"Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
And what women are trying to explain it away?
Why do you assume the only reason women marry is for money and big houses?
Sometimes the disdain for women is really appalling. And I don't just mean Gov. Stanford...or Senator Ensign.
I know someone that is:rolleyes: thankful he's been pushed to the fourth page of the paper!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
IT's Tuesday and my prez is on TV again!
Geez, he gets more face time than the mayor of El Lay and MY mayor is a media HO!
This Sanford guy gets creepier everyday. Now he's spouting off that he "crossed lines" with a handful of women other than his mistress — but never had sex with them.
So it's all okay 'cause he only had sex with his mistress - and maybe his wife?
He screwed the people that voted him in, isn't that enough?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
And he is "going to try and fall in love with his wife again.":eek::eek::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
How magnanimous of him....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
I will believe this guy has a shread....a tiny little shread...of a soul if he apologizes to Bill Clinton for demanding he resign for behavior Sanford was himself engaged in.
What a hypocrite. What a horrible excuse for a human being. I hope his wife humiliates him in turn and his sons do as well. It is the least he deserves.
The fact that he cheated isn't what galls me. That's between him and his wife. I'm angry that he didn't use his own money to pay for his trysts and that he left his duty call for a booty call. That and his ridiculous drama of wiping away a tear and wearing his infidelity proudly as a badge of dishonor but one for which he's pretty damned arrogant and cocksure that he'll be forgiven.
Politicians are oily, no matter the party affiliation. I've never believed any of them and I don't see that changing any time soon. I feel slimed after listening to any one of them talk and when I see a group of them together, clapping their hands and grinning like fools, I feel as though I'm looking at a bunch of actors who really don't give a fig about this country. They may have started out w/sincerity but somewhere along the line they became jaded or frightened or disappointed or overwhelmed or...(insert your own word here). I don't put my faith in them or their party or this government or any other government. I just don't. I vote out of obligation because I don't want to be part of the problem by just standing by and allowing others to determine my future and how our country is run. To say that I'm disenfranchised isn't accurate. I never believed or trusted any of them from the get-go.
Oh Medusa I cannot believe that all of any occupation are one thing or another.
Just because Ken Delay and Bernie Madoff were/are evil does not mean all people of commerce are evil.
Just because teachers get caught abusing children does not make all teachers abusers.
Just because some soldiers kill civilians does not mean all of them would do that.
Just because some cops end up "on the take" or some doctors prescribe medication that is bad for their patients does not mean all cops are crooked or all doctors do not care about their patients.
All of these occupations and people in those occupations "gone bad" have been in the news lately. But a person's occupation does not make them good or bad. That happens long before they chose an occupation.
Our politicians...just like our teachers, our soldiers, our cops and our doctors...are a reflection of the society from which they come.
I didn't ask you to believe it. I said what I feel. I don't presume to speak for anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Okay...then I feel very sad for you that you have such negative feelings about a group of people based on occupation.
But I understand it is how you feel.
No need to feel sad for me. I'm free of false trust and that makes me happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Well....can't help what I feel!
I just feelbad karma to paint a whole group as good or bad. Sort of gives permission to say...all people from Illinois are crooked or all lawyers are ambulance chasers or all people who do computer stuff are geeks.
Absolutes are dangerous and limiting in my opinion!
I cant wait to see the list of Conservatives or Republicans that are OK in ES's mind. For that matter what she thinks of those who actualy Believe in the United States of America's Constitution and what it stands for.
She said cocksure......ahuh, ahuh huh huh.....:eek:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
LOL, His wife green lit the affair, then told him not to go see her.
Make up your mind.?
Please!
FWIW, the only people who should be calling for Sen Ensign and Gov Sanford to resign are the people they represent. The rest should STFU and keep their own representatives in check.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Speaking of hypocrisy, these post made me LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
First post makes Gov Sanford's wife out to be a doormat, the second a b***h out for revenge.
Wow. We're talking about you again. Interesting how you do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
I expressed how I feel but not to spark controversy or to invoke sympathy. As for racking up bad karma, we should all try not to focus on the straw in another's eye when there's a beam in our own.
Exactly my point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
That wasn't perceived as your point by me. If you disagree w/my opinion, then perhaps you can say "I disagree and here's why" rather than concern yourself w/my karma. I voiced my opinion about Sanford and politicians in general because the title of this thread is "Politics and religion". If someone disagrees w/your opinion, you attack the messenger rather than the message. If s/he disagrees w/your view of the expanding role of govt., s/he's a "whiner". If s/he disagrees w/your view on race relations, s/he's a "clever little racist". If s/he disagrees w/your view on women and their relationship w/their SO's, s/he has disdain for women. Leave the personal stuff out of it. It muddies the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
I would respectfully suggest you do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
I make an effort to not get personal and I don't engage in name calling. Let's just leave it at that, shall we, and move on? There's no need for vitriol. Civil and intelligent discussions work for me. In that way there are no hard feelings. We all on PT love our country despite our differing views.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Soundness and Validity are both properties of deductive arguments. For an argument to be Valid the conclusion must follow from the premises; that is, if the premises are true your conclusion MUST be true. For example, If all dogs are animals, and all poodles are dogs; all poodles must be animals, is a valid argument. Whereas, If all dogs are animals; all animals must be dogs is invalid. This is because the conclusion is not directly derived from the premises.
For an argument to be Sound there are two criteria: the argument must be Valid, and the premises must be True. For example, all dogs are animals, poodles are dogs; therefore, poodles must be animals, is Valid and True and therefore Sound. Whereas, All dogs are cats, all poodles are dogs; therefore poodles must be cats, is certainly Valid, it is not Sound because the premises are not true.
Liz,Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Can you repost this before I eat dinner?;)
I get slow and stupid after I eat?:D
And don't let Pam see this!
She thinks poodles are human!:eek::D
I dont know where Liz found that but here is a link for it that you could bookmark for later.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD