Do your nephew a favor and take Sheba to the vet or SPCA and get her spayed.
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Do your nephew a favor and take Sheba to the vet or SPCA and get her spayed.
hm. I'm really confused?
Most of the reason anyone was angry, is because those puppies lives are in danger. Parvo is highly contagious, very costly to treat, and usually kills young puppies. And they are not vaccinated, which is the responsibility of any dog owner. Secondly, she said that SHE did intend to breed your backyard, mixed breed dog, which we are ALL against. Most of us volunteer at shelters and watch hundreds of thousands of dogs being put to sleep because they are mixed breed, unwanted, bred for "fun", etc. NO ONE cussed at her, thats not what we're about. I think we are all concerned for the health of those puppies, and we don't look lightly on breeding for "fun" or breeding "just because". . :rolleyes:
This is Johnny again, sorry.
I do agree, I think DH should get Sheba spayed or to have more responsiblity for what she does and what his family should do when she goes outside to do her business (bathroom).
We will get them checked hopefully this coming up week. Just to be sure, before Accord gives them their shots.
Ill call around and see if we can get a cheap check up for the puppies. If you know any that are good and trustable business, please list them as well. Accord gets paid everyday cash and could get them checked. One step at a time. Accord can bill the owners who wants the puppy for vet checks. But thats between her and her friends. Im trying to help as well.
Im thankful Accord has a job, whew.
I think Accord has been feeling down lately and I wish I knew a littel better why. I know shes a good mom to those puppies, Ive seen it. She cleans their area well every day. We are trying not to take them outside yet till we can get some good chemicals to kill the ground bacteria, I think its called Ryce. Or if you guys know anything that can kill it about 90% or up? Or a good percentage? Let Accord know and she will keep me updated.
I wouldn't say she intend to breed them in the back yard. We did want to breed her with another dog that is the same as Anya. But Sheba is only 1 year and 4 months old and had 9 pups. So some do get prego at the wrong time. So animals can't be blamed for that. But we have to deal with it right?
I better give the computer back before Accord thinks I fall in love with this forum. Im not on here often cause I dont know what to look for or to enjoy searching. So happy typing and please try to help Accord if you can. She loves Anya as much as I do. Be there for her, since shes trying
J5
again,, I might remind you due in part ,, one has already died because you couldnt afford to take him to the ER Vet,,, you said that yourself,,,, so again,, you should be geting those pups to a place where they can get the proper medical attention and ALLL shots that are needed WHEN needed.Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
It may sound a little rude, yes. But if i didn't accept it, then everyone would say "oh you didn't accept it, that means they die or gets killed" mean stuff like that. And 2 of them are already sold, so Im still getting monthly rent from that. And the mommy owner will be paying for their shots and not me. I am paying for Moo-Moo, Bailey and Hunny Bear's shot tmw if I get my first paycheck today. which I hope.
Accord,
I did some research and the Roice-Hurst Humane Society in Clifton will give your dogs their shots for $10.00. Also, they help out with spaying and nutering. Here is a link to them with there phone number. Maybe you could call and talk to them.
http://www.roicehursthumanesociety.com/Spay,%20neuter%20and%20vaccination%20clinics.htm
I also have another link I would like you to take a look at. Its Pit Bull Sad Reality. I should warn you that a lot of the pictures on there are very graphic. But it does show you how so many people in this world treat the pit bulls. The site has a lot of great info on it. It might make you guys stop and think about bringing more pits into the world. There are so many that are unwanted in shelters that need homes. Why bring more into the world when so many need adopted from the shelters!?! As, you probably know the pit bulls are having a tough time so many people hate them and want them gone. We as pit bull owners have to change that and give them the good name that they so deserve. Please help to do that for the pit's sake. Your puppies are adorable and they deserve the best in life and it's up to you to give that to them.
Here is the link to the pit site.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality.html
Me again, for some reason the link to the humane society wont work. Let me try it again.http://www.roicehursthumanesociety.c...%20clinics.htm
I hope it works this time. If it doesnt I will give you their phone #.
Let me know if you want it.
From a reputable breeder standpoint.....Please spay or neuter these puppies ASAP. Breeding dogs takes a lot of research to make sure genetic disorders, temperment and overall breed standards are met. Health clearances are mandatory. If you can not provide any of this, then you should NOT breed and yes....I would consider you a backyard breeder in it strictly for the money!! :mad:
Unfortunately, your Anya died of a very serious disease. However at 5 months she should of had the proper shots to prevent this deadly disease from killing her. If you can't afford to get the dogs shots, you can't afford to breed them.
I have a very close friend who is also a reputable breeder. She spent a lot of money making sure everything was done correctly. Unfortunately, her female died after an emergency C-section was done to deliver the pups when complications arose. She was now faced with 9 pups without a mom to feed them. The time and money she was faced with to help those pups survive was staggering. While this is not normal, it is a possiblity. Any reputable breeder doesn't consider the cost though. They consider the well being of the pups. Again, please spay or neuter these pups ASAP as I do not feel from your posts that you are capable of providing the expense to make sure the breeding is done correctly let alone the fact that these pups are not pure bred to start with!
hi, i'm barbra...i'm sure everyone wasn't trying to be mean...just trying desperately to get a very important point across...:) i've learned these people(myself included) are very passionate about their beloved pets, and about others....their reactions are for your benefit....most of these people are very well informed...i've learned sooo much from them...i too am worried about your little pitties...so many pit bulls are abused just because they are pit bulls...and don't give up PET TALK it really is an informative site and sooo much fun...;)
:rolleyes: I knew this would turn this way from Accord's very first posts. Even though these are her first times posting here.
But I can't help to say, I wonder how many people who "ganged up" on me, when I mentioned breeding Jillian someday, would be willing to apologize today. I was new too when that whole fight started, no one really knew me and I was called a byb, people from another board followed me onto this board just to continue the fight in my "They called me a byb!" post when I refused to respond to such immaturity on their board. However I decided to stay here because I know what I am, and what I am not. It was my decision to include all of you in our struggles with Jillian's epilepsy the day we found out, how close I was to a breakdown while watching my beautiful puppy flopping around on the floor. I'm sure most of you have read about the money we spent on emergency vets, 2 regular vets, hospital stays, her spay, complications from her spay, etc. So I was just wondering how many who were calling me a quote, "hopeless pathetic byb" and "Gawd help those puppies" at first, would apologize for that after actually getting to know me?
I'm in no way supporting Accord, in my opinion this IS an actual byb situation.
Sorry for thread stealing :p, but this brought up 'memories'.
Well, I'm glad you stuck around, and, I hope that Accord does as well. Because no one is going to learn anything about anything if they're run off. As long as people are willing to educate and not get so emotionally involved as to come across as ugly, Accord could actually benefit from this site. I hope the puppies are safe. That's all I really want to say. :)Quote:
Originally posted by LKPike
:rolleyes: However I decided to stay here because I know what I am, and what I am not........So I was just wondering how many who were calling me a quote, "hopeless pathetic byb" and "Gawd help those puppies" at first, would apologize for that after actually getting to know me?
Excuse me? I wasnt the one who was responsible for the shots for Anya. Why dont you blame the owner that BREEd her in her damn back yard? huh? Anya is not a purebred. Trust me.Quote:
Originally posted by Dixieland Dancer
From a reputable breeder standpoint.....Please spay or neuter these puppies ASAP. Breeding dogs takes a lot of research to make sure genetic disorders, temperment and overall breed standards are met. Health clearances are mandatory. If you can not provide any of this, then you should NOT breed and yes....I would consider you a backyard breeder in it strictly for the money!! :mad:
Unfortunately, your Anya died of a very serious disease. However at 5 months she should of had the proper shots to prevent this deadly disease from killing her. If you can't afford to get the dogs shots, you can't afford to breed them.
I have a very close friend who is also a reputable breeder. She spent a lot of money making sure everything was done correctly. Unfortunately, her female died after an emergency C-section was done to deliver the pups when complications arose. She was now faced with 9 pups without a mom to feed them. The time and money she was faced with to help those pups survive was staggering. While this is not normal, it is a possiblity. Any reputable breeder doesn't consider the cost though. They consider the well being of the pups. Again, please spay or neuter these pups ASAP as I do not feel from your posts that you are capable of providing the expense to make sure the breeding is done correctly let alone the fact that these pups are not pure bred to start with!
Fine for your information I wont breed my pits then. happy?
If you guys want to gang up on me. Fine Ill bail. Cause I will not accept this bs on me. THIS IS JOHNNY'S DOG THAT DIED SO DONT JUMP THE HELL ON ME! DONT PUT ME AS A VICTIM OF SOMETHING I DID NOT DO. JOHNNY WAS THE ONE WHO SUFFERED WORSE THEN I DID. NONE OF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. IF I DID MY BEST TO TAKE CARE OF HER, PLUS 6 PUPPIES AND A DAUGHTER. WHILE JOHNNY IS WORKING. CMON NOW!
WHY ARE YOU JUDGING ME? I PROVIDED THEM A ROOF OVER THIEIR HEAD, I PROVIDED THEM LOVE, I DID THE BEST I COULD. AND LET IT BE.
IF THEY GET PREGNANT ON THEIR OWN AND WE DONT KNOW, YOU CAN'T BLAME ME FOR THAT BECAUSE I DONT HEAR WHATS GOING ON AROUND MY HOUSE CAUSE I CAN'T HEAR. MOST OF THESE PUPPIES ARE MY HUSBANDS. I HAVE 1 GIRL PUPPY. SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS 3 PITBULLS AND BOTH ARE BROTHER AND SISTER. SHE BREEDS THEM CAREFULLY AND SELLS THEM TO THE RIGHT PROPER HOME, AND THE RIGHT PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO SHOW THEM LOVE. JUST LIKE I DID. I HAVE 5 PITBULLS IN THE HOUSE. AND THEY ARE LOVED, AND HAS THEIR SHOTS. NOW THE ONES THAT ARE SOLD IS NOT MY DECISSION TO SPAY THEM OR NOT. IF THE BUYER WANTS THEM SPAYED, THATS FINE. THEY PAY FOR IT. IF THEY DONT. THEN DONT HARRASS ME FOR IT. CAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO DISAGREE. ONCE ITS BROUGHT, IS "AS IS" THE BUYER CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. MOST PEOPLE WILL SEE THEM FOR HIGH PRICES. AND I WONT BECAUSE IM NICER THEN THAT.
Now no more drama. Let them go. I dont need some mean people jumping on me because Im new here.
The puppies had their vet checked today and I GOT LUCKY. How? There is a place called Banfield and they do free exames and I ask them if they could bill me monthly for the check ups. And they said it was fine. So they did the test results and I got a call from them saying that all puppies are FINE. But they are redoing the test to be sure. So Now you can't do anything.
If they passed the parvo virus test by negative, then they are all good. So obviously they did. and im glad, so now they have their first shots. Im happy. So should you guys.
Im sorry for the yellin but I dont like to be critized because Im different from others and I take it MORE seriously then others do. Becuase most people will discrimiate deaf people, and I have suffered from that. So Im gettin serious on this. So dont say the wrong word or you will get jumped back just like this. I dont like to be called anything. Please dont push your limits.
Im still new, and I dont need this after Anya has passed away. Dont make me suffer more.
I was being lied to by the backyard breeder of Anya. So why dont you guys jump on her for it? I shouldn't be blamed for it. Johnny's mom was the one that got her for 250 bucks as a PUREBREED... Then later mom's friend that worked at the bank took her puppy to the vet and said it WAS NOT A PUREBREED! And had no vaccine as proven on the computer. So why dont you guys call someone else a backyard breeder of Anya? I didn't do anything. So hell no shes not going to be bred cause I have changed my mind... and f*ck no the pitbulls are not getting bred.
Bye
Oh good lord because your deaf you won't take responsibility for your dogs breeding? I think we have all heard enough, is this a joke?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: aaaand you accussed these nice people that *are* Pet Talk, of cursing and swearing at... YOU? mmmhhmmm.....
Heh, don't really know what to say. So as long as the puppies are sold and you get the money you could care less what their new owners do to them? VERY responsible. ;)
I feel so bad for all of the dogs involved :( SO bad
First, let me apologize for coming on harsh. I was reacting to the point that you said you were going to breed your girl when she turned a year old.Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
IF THEY GET PREGNANT ON THEIR OWN AND WE DONT KNOW, YOU CAN'T BLAME ME FOR THAT BECAUSE I DONT HEAR WHATS GOING ON AROUND MY HOUSE CAUSE I CAN'T HEAR.
Second, your quote above is cause for disagreement because if they are neutered or spayed, they can not get pregnant. Being a responsible pet owner means you should do all you can to prevent "accidents" from happening. Females should be fixed before their first heat cycle which can occur as early as 6 months although it is more common to happen around 7 to 9 months. Males should be neutered no later than 6 months. If you take these precautions, you will not have to worry about not being able to see or hear what is going on.
I am glad you made the decision not to breed. I hope you stay around Pet Talk long enough to realize everyone here is not ganging up on you but trying to educate you to the problems of dog over population and too many furry friends being abused or uthinized in shelters because of lack of responsible pet ownership. You are showing a very responsible side by making the decision to spay and neuter the pups or to ensure whoever gets them does.
Goodness. :(
Wow.
Sorry to post to this thread and maybe it's none of my business but I can't help it.
Accord: First of all, no one here is trying to penalize you for being deaf. You keep bringing this up as a reason why everyone is responding to you the way that they are. After I read and re-read this thread over and over, I have concluded that you're missing the point of the entire matter. Please slow down and re-read what you have written. Your description of what has and is happening tells a certain story. Go back and carefully read what you have already said. Please understand that the people here at Pet Talk are the cream of the crop of responsible pet owners. They only have the welfare of your dogs at heart. Can you not see this? No one is blaming you for anything. Everyone is merely suggesting that you might want to make some better choices in the future. We all love animals and only want the best for them. What could be wrong with this concept? Now you've gotten yourself angry and upset but you still don't seem to know why. You've done the right thing by getting the puppies checked out so please calm down and use this forum for the help that it can provide. Terry
I wasn't calling you a BYB for breeding the pitbulls, and I never said you had bred Anya. I called you one because you wanted to breed her even though she's a mutt with a bad background, she isn't health certified, pedigreed, titled, etc. I think that's whaty most people were thinking, though it seems they may have gotten confused due to all of the dogs involved. I'm glad to hear that the puppies aren't sick -- it probably wasn't parvo that took Anya then. That's a good thing because parvo has the tendency to follow you around. I am not jumping on you ebcause you are new here -- if anyone came on here and said that they had wanted to breed their dog, I would be angry and feel a need to explain why, even thought the dog is no longer alive. One reason because a BYB doesn't usually just do it once, nor do they get the idea of doing it and it just goes away. Unless they are properly educated they might continue wanting to breed.
Please, if you want to breed dogs, do it properly...Breed purebred dogs that come from reputable breeders. They should be health certified for whatever problems might be in the breed (Pennhipp, OFA, OVC, CERF, BAER, etc). They should have pedigrees so you know what lines might compliment another and how closely related the male and female are. They should be involved in some activity (herding, agility, conformation, schutzhund, etc). And many MANY other things that define reputable breeding. Of course due to your money problems, you couldn't do this for a really long time, because breeding is very expensive. So please, if you ever get another unaltered dog, do not breed it. There's alot of heartache involved when you don't do it properly --- Or, as Dixieland Dancer already explained -- sometimes when you DO do it properly.
I am not trying to gang up on you or be mean. I'm only concerned about the amount of dogs dying everyday because of people who think it's great to let their dog have a litter when they have no idea.
I also think the puppies should be spayed. It doesn't matter if you can't hear (though that confuses me, as you already said in another post that you can hear with a hearing aid), it is YOUR responsibility. Everyone has some sort of disability -- they are still responsible for what goes on around them. If you choose not to alter the pups then they should be seperated at all times. Keep diapers on them atleast. If you can't afford proper dog care then you can't afford to get blood stains out of your carpet and urine stains off of everything the male marks.
If you go to your SPCA and show them proof of your yearly income, they will spay and neuter them for free. I'm sure you can afford free.
You can't use being deaf as an excuse for everything. You can be deaf and still be responsible. That includes spaying or neutering your dogs. As for the rudeness and cursing, the only one guilty of that is you.
I would like to post something now, but I think I would probably regret it later.
Please get your pups taken care of, and recognize the people on this board are trying to help, not criticize you.
You have to realize nothing in life is free and of course they will be lots of money....and my first puppy when I was 5 lucy died of parvo:( . Just take really good care of them please and no if they already have parvo the shot won't help them... This is all I am going to say. :)Quote:
these puppies were actually given to us for free
Fine.. I just keep this to myself.
I have decided that Im not going to breed them because its going to be too much money. And that after just starting this job, hopefully will pay off the 500 buck vet bill for the check up that they had this morning. So Im thankful that they accepted a monthly payment of 100 a month.
Also the money is not going to me. Its going to my nephew cause he wants the money and it "was" his dog's puppies. So basically Im getting the money to book it into his jail for food and letters etc. So it doesn't give me a choice to keep the money. Unless I have a good reason. So now I have friends (who brought them) and they are helping with the food and shots. Im being fair to them by getting it checked up for them.
I did send them an IM and asked if they wanted their puppies spayed, and both requested no cause its too mean to do that. thats how they felt. So all I can say is I accept their request and I can't go further then what they ask.
Im not guilty for my swearing cause thats how mad I am right now.
But labeling someone BYB is insulting. As I have read in most of the post. So for ya'll sakes, I wont breed them. Period, no more comments on that BYB nonesense.
I can hear with a hearing aide, but you can't take a shower with it, cause its not waterproof, and you can't sleep with it at night cause it fall sout of your hear. And if you have a ear ache, it hurts to wear it. So hopefully that clears up the confusion.
So the 1st puppy is going home in May. Im driving up to Utah and have it delievered by car from a friend. The 2nd one that is sold will be here till the owner moves here in June. (She paid for the dog food and shots) If they decide to change their mind to spay them, they will send me a request and I will get that done for them.
their test came back and its negative for parvo and other deadly diseases. The vet says they will have their first Rabie shot when they are 6 months old. Which is in August. So I wrote that to the owners by snail mail. So they will get that by thursday hopefully.
All of the puppies (5 of them, the oldest one is 4 months old) have passed the test. (the good way) They are active, eating, sleeping, playing and having stinky poops (yuck)
Also jadepit, I saw the website and it makes me puke. There is no way those pits will end up like that. I love them so much that they wont suffer like that. Eeeh its nasty. ::shivers::
Ive had my own dog for 6 yrs and the one before that was 1 yr and half. the first one was my sister's christmas dog. and my dad didn't know what to do ( I was 14 at the time and volunteeering at Brickyard) Maddy had a heat stroke and I was trying to put cold water under her chin and kept her in a cool place. Dad said we are going out to eat. (this was in Moab, UT) and I tried to save her. and my dad just didn't want to take her to the vet.. So she died in my dad's truck. And I never forgave him for that, even now, I still dont.
about 2 to 3 yrs later, my sister got another puppy for christmas from a different boyfriend. and we took care of her again, and shes doing great. shes healthy. I haven't seen her for a while, so I dont know what the updates are for her now.
I hope we can move on from this.
Accord
I agree 100% :)Quote:
Originally posted by jackie
Please get your pups taken care of, and recognize the people on this board are trying to help, not criticize you.
"I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS 3 PITBULLS AND BOTH ARE BROTHER AND SISTER. SHE BREEDS THEM CAREFULLY AND SELLS THEM TO THE RIGHT PROPER HOME, AND THE RIGHT PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO SHOW THEM LOVE. "
Am I reading this right???????
I was wondering the same thing earlier. I was also wonderfing WHY these people who are taking the puppies think spaying their puppy is "mean"? Spaying a dog helps reduce the chance of ovarian and uterine cancer, helps reduce the dogs urge to roam (run away from home) to look for a mate, etc. etc. It's a very simple procedure that is done every day and helps curb the pet overpopulation problem.Quote:
Originally posted by MsMini
"I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS 3 PITBULLS AND BOTH ARE BROTHER AND SISTER. SHE BREEDS THEM CAREFULLY AND SELLS THEM TO THE RIGHT PROPER HOME, AND THE RIGHT PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO SHOW THEM LOVE. "
Am I reading this right???????
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you do that quote thing??? LOL
MsMini...there is a "quote" button on the right side of the post you want to quote.... ;)
Oh my :(
I am glad you decided not to breed them however I am still very disgusted by this whole story.Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
[B]Fine.. I just keep this to myself.
I have decided that Im not going to breed them because its going to be too much money. And that after just starting this job, hopefully will pay off the 500 buck vet bill for the check up that they had this morning. So Im thankful that they accepted a monthly payment of 100 a month.
You shouldn't be breeding her period. You are not breeding her to better the breed, and that alone, proves that you are not a responsible breeder. You don't deserve to own the dogs, I can't believe the only reason you didn't breed her was because it would cost to much money. Thats sick.
You are all in it for the money. Thats disgusting. People like you don't deserve to own such wonderful animals.Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
[B]Also the money is not going to me. Its going to my nephew cause he wants the money and it "was" his dog's puppies. So basically Im getting the money to book it into his jail for food and letters etc. So it doesn't give me a choice to keep the money. Unless I have a good reason. So now I have friends (who brought them) and they are helping with the food and shots. Im being fair to them by getting it checked up for them.
When they called you a BYB they weren't labeliing you. It was the truth.Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
[B]But labeling someone BYB is insulting. As I have read in most of the post. So for ya'll sakes, I wont breed them. Period, no more comments on that BYB nonesense.
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BYB stand for Back Yard Breeder.Quote:
But labeling someone BYB is insulting. As I have read in most of the post. So for ya'll sakes, I wont breed them. Period, no more comments on that BYB nonesense.
It seems like you think thats some sort of curse word. It is just a term for people who breed and sell dogs for a profit. This is was you were saying you wanted to do. This is why people were calling you a BYB.
BYB'ers are a serious problem, and are one of the reason why MILLIONS of animals are put to sleep in shelters around the world every year.
It is not mean or cruel to spay/neuter you dogs and animal. READ MEQuote:
I did send them an IM and asked if they wanted their puppies spayed, and both requested no cause its too mean to do that. thats how they felt. So all I can say is I accept their request and I can't go further then what they ask
One more thing that is bothering me about this thread is that you keep pulling out the pity card.
NO ONE on this board is saying anything about you being deaf.
YOU are the only one bringing it up, and seem to be using it as a "get out of jail free" card...
You are responsible for your own actions and for the welfare of those puppies, regardless of your hearing disability. If you cannot handle the stress and strain of owning dogs, maybe you should think twice about owning even one dog.Quote:
IF THEY GET PREGNANT ON THEIR OWN AND WE DONT KNOW, YOU CAN'T BLAME ME FOR THAT BECAUSE I DONT HEAR WHATS GOING ON AROUND MY HOUSE CAUSE I CAN'T HEAR.
This is not an attack, please don't feel like it is. Once again, please take care of those pups
Not just for profit..I know more people that do it for "the fun." It's the fun of seeing what your dog's puppies will look like. Then other times it's to let your children see the miracle of birth. Some people think it's healthier for their female to have a litter before she is spayed. Some people want a puppy just like their dog. Some people just keep their dogs unaltered and don't care if they breed.Quote:
Originally posted by jackie
It is just a term for people who breed and sell dogs for a profit.
The friend who breeds siblings...that's just wrong...:eek: I don't disagree with line-breeding, but I completely disagree with inbreeding.
ty for the correction Wolfsoul. :)
I think one thing that everyone here can agree on, is that there are enough unwanted and homeless dogs in this world.
BYB'ing is totally unnecessary...
Accord, please
READ ME
Im removing myself off the board... So till you guys stop hypotizing me that Im a "backyard breeder" I AM NOT. Period.
Stop trying to think your above me. If my friends dont want it. Accept it. If they dont want it, let them decide. They dont want to worry about it right now. Ok? STop trying to repeat the phrase over and over.
I dont want the money duh. I gave it all to my nephew in jaiil. Since its his puppy and he wants me to sell it for him. Thats fine. So your loss not mine. I have a job, Please! 16.00 an hour? I just started it today. So hush. zip. nada.
The puppies will not be spayed or neutered. IF the owners request it, then let them request it. Dont make me think ya'll are right. In some ways you maybe right. But if this is what the buyers want. Accept it. Let them make their own mistakes ok? If they backyard breeds them, thats their problem not mine. I am ONLY BABYSITTING them till they are able to go.
Back off. I know you guys are trying to help me. But dont push it too much. I can't make the buyers disagree with me and fight and fight and then I have to give the money back from my nephew. Or with my own working money. No way.
If you were working for your boss, and he ask you to do something for him, would you argue back and disagree? And then you lose your job right.
So the situation is pretty much the same. The buyers are my "boss" and I am helping/working for them. And if I dont do waht Im told or to respect what they want, I lose my friends, I lose the trust I have in them. And they would send the puppy back, or sell it to someone else. And I would have to pay it back. So does that show the picture.
So Im going back to work and I will be back later. And I expect to see some positive stuff on here. and not arguable issues. You might not be reading all that there is. but Im not going to bred them, and Im not going to spay/neuture them. I can't do anything about it. Ok?
Good bye Im going back to work.
This is typed from a Sidekick II
Accord
How many dogs are there anyway???
Good question Ms. Mini! The whole thing is pretty confusing isn't it?
Terry, Daisy, and Delilah
I still can't figure it all out...:(
Your buyers are not the boss, the seller is. Make sure you inform them of all the consequences of not spaying; cancer, roaming male dogs, being in heat as a whole. You obviously don't have a puppy contract. I agree with all of the people on this board. I think you are confusing the meaning of backyard breeder. It has nothing to do with the dogs actually being in your back yard, and everything to do with the reasoning for breeding and the poor caretaking methods. By the way, it wasn't until like the third page that we found out you were deaf, and they were yelling at you long before then, no discrimination there. I also do kind of hold you responsible for the death of the other dog, did you just sit there and watch it get sicker and sicker without doing anything?!
My GAWD girl.... you use your impairment as an excuse,, that initself is inexcuseable,,,
you cant afford treatment and so a pup dies needlessly??
youre breeding siblings?????
You say you got them shots in one post,, then in the next breath,, you say your GETTING them the next day?
You claim to remove yourself from the board and in the same post,, warn us to not post anything negative and demand to see something good when you get back later??
If I lived near you,, I would report you!