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Originally Posted by Alysser
Agree with both of you on most points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonny
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Originally Posted by Alysser
Agree with both of you on most points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonny
I'm a profession Luddite and can barely put up with technology at times.
I cannot tell you how many meetings I attended where someone would pull out the 'latest' new machine before the meeting and ended up waiting for the imprompt training session - usually the first 20-30 minutes of the meeting - where the techheads would teach each other how to cut and paste, reroute, configure and set up their cellphones/Crackberrys - to end so we could get on with the task at hand?
I had to wait for my boss to answer all the questions and give the pros and cons about the 'rollup keyboard and stand' to her PDA. (This happened at every meeting because she was the 'pro' - the big boss spent thousands of dollars buyin her the best and latest tech - and all that tech ended up in her car on her last day of work....)
I had to fight to get money for equipment and hours to make my job easier when the budget was being spent on purchases to allow my bosses to work from home or be off site and get a phone call?
Back in the early to late 80's (VHS vs Beta sound familiar?) I had to endure the Apple Vs. MS wars when a media 'swap' wasn't so user friendly.
And what is it with people camping out for days to get the latest Apple product?
I did spend the night in sleeping in a Sears parking lot waiting to get David Bowie tickets - that pretty much let me know that there is shiat on the planet that I really don't need to see or have AT THAT MOMENT.
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Now, do not get me wrong, I love FreeCell, Email and Pet Talk.
I do love my home page and the ability to look up facts/trivia/information that has me baffled, bamboozled and just plain curious.....
But, in the early 90's I was being sold an idea that 'in the next few years' a doctor will be able to walk around with a Note Pad and do all his charting, order labs, prescriptions, look up EKGs, X-rays and the results of any scans or tests they ordered.
During a recent hospital stay I was secretly pleased to see a doctor reach into their pocket and pull out a paper and pen and make a few notes to themselves.
Steve Jobs, the Woz and all the people who have pioneered computers, operating systems and applications have paved the way for us to dream.
We all dream about the machine or app that will make our lives easier. But we are going to have to put up with people walking into poles or getting run over because they are not paying attention to the world around them.
Companies will have to put up with lost productivity - Who doesn't want to peek in on their pets via the internet while they are at work? Check on the balance of their internet poker pot or shop at Overstock.com because someone sent them an email about the three day sale?
The day when the words "the computer is down, can you wait while I try to get it working?" become obsolete will be the day to celebrate.
The guy that fixes that problem should have a shrine built in their honor.;)
Wow this has gotten off track.
ANYWAY, back to the late Mr. Jobs. While I'm not an Apple user, I do admire what he did, warts and all, for the computer industry and the animated motion picture industry (Pixar.) I do agree that Apple created competition, very fierce competition, that ended up benefitting more people. Do I agree with non-replaceable batteries? Heck no, but people do have choices what to buy, after all. He believed quality sells, and the market bore this out.
(JMO):)
I love discourse, especially when it's done respectfully.
If you have to ask you may be. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryWolf07
What did he create? He co-founded Apple but what did he create? He had ideas and he paid others to make those ideas reality. In the beginning he used his personality to make those ideas happen, later he had money to make those ideas reality. Woz made the first Apple and the Apple ][, Bill Gates put Basic on it. Xerox gave us the GUI and the mouse through Steve Jobs.Quote:
Obviously, Steve Jobs wasn't a very nice man, that's okay, I know that. He created something that CHANGED the way we look at the world today. Technology is incredible because of him. he just had the BRAINS to do what he wanted. He went and did it. He had a big vision, he saw it, and created it. He didn't give up. He followed his passion, his love, and look what happens 25 years later down the road. So yes, I admire him for his talent & his innovation ways. :)
His marketing was Insanely Great. He created users who would pay a premium for his products and created a consumer lifestyle based on what he was selling. These ideas and marketing pushed the Open Source movement to what it is today and for that I do indeed and humbly honor him for his unintended consequence. His ideas and marketing also pushed Winslow to the heights they currently enjoy.
Microsoft had a Killer App and took over the market. Does Mac even have a Killer App outside of itself? Mac still needs MS Office to be relevant in the main stream business world. Yet Mac is still relevant because of Jobs marketing, and I hope his legacy at Apple lives on because a world where M$ has no rival is a world where. Chit I dont know but have you looked at the Windows 8 Preview? Things would truly suck if Windose was the only option, I would use Winblows over OSX however.
His leadership style and personality are widely known, he was not a nice guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
Nobody has made this political other then you, in this case Obama is a consumer and that is what he is. He is or was a crackberry addict, and probably used pirated Microsloth software when he was a community organizer. Yes that is an unfounded statement but it still isnt political.Quote:
I really don't know why this has to turn to politics once again, this thread isn't about Obama, why is it being discussed.
I have an idea, how about if you hate Steve Jobs so much, you go write your comments on youtube or some other hatred spewing website. I really don't understand why any of this bulls*** even came up.
I may not like Jobs, and I despise Apple products, but I respect the man because the company he co-founded has pushed itself, Microshizzle, and the FOSS movement far beyond where it would be without Apple.
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Originally Posted by blue
Hey !!! Are you having a shot at me ???Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
I'm the only moron here. I know it, you know it, and all of PT know it.
I reserve the right to maintain the title of "PT Moron", nobody else deserves it. :D
I can only hope you arent including me with the broad insult you delivered. There is plenty of hatred on this board, and I see only two example in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
If the shoe fits.............Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
This was meant as a general statement to anyone (current and future posts) that cares to bash a person who is no longer here and able to defend himself.
No Wom - thre are only 2 official PT Morons (names withheld), and you aren't one of them. You're PT Goofball. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
Can we please just stop arguing over how good/bad of a man Steve Jobs was? This thread wasn't intended to argue about him. We're honoring a man that died. Doesn't matter what you thought of him. Just be sad that he's gone. If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it at all.
Well that's a pie in the face !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
I've always wanted to be the main PT moron, and now you're saying I can't be.
I have rights you know !!!! :p
Fair enough. They are mighty bigs shoes to fill, good thing I have big feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
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This was meant as a general statement to anyone (current and future posts) that cares to bash a person who is no longer here and able to defend himself.
I have been quite fair to Mr Jobs and honored his actual accomplishments. The world of technology has lost a great influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
You are so wrong. Sure he had his faults (who doesn't) but what he did was just amazing. In my religion where you go when you die all depends on if you trusted Jesus Christ as your savior. It doesn't matter what you did in the world, just matters if you trust Jesus Christ as your savior.Quote:
Originally Posted by IRescue452
And just because you didn't hear it in the media or on tv, doesn't mean that he didn't do charity work. Learn to get your facts straight before slamming someone for doing something that they didn't do. Or like you did, slam him for something you claim that he didn't do, but from what I know, that he did.
Oh and just a person is rich doesn't mean they have to put some money into charity. If they don't, it doesn't make them a heartless person. And it doesn't mean that they are going to hell neither.
I do not believe he was a particularly kind person but he was definitely passionate about his work. I'm sure he suffered a great deal with his illness. He definitely left his mark in the world and I hope he is at peace. His family and friends are in my thoughts.
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Too soon?
A true giant of the computer world has just passed away: Dennis Ritchie, the principal designer of the C programming language and co-developer of the Unix operating system.
As my friend Vince said, "With all the ink and pixels spent on St. Steven of Cupertino recently, it would be unconscionable to let the passing of another computer giant go unremarked. That one was a household name and the the other quite unknown is reflected in the simple observation that one was a mathematician and the other a salesman."
Rest in peace, Mr. Ritchie.
Obituary: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/te...at-70.htm?_r=1