Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
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Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
KTHNXBY.
No. I'm sorry you are having diffiuclty using the internet but I just don't have time to help you with your research. It has been so extensively covered it shouldn't be too difficult!Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
I agree with you. I regreted that posting but I was so angry at the hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosethecopycat
There are real reasons to vote. I don't think because Rush Limbaugh or Obama's supporters or anyone else uses the word "messiah" should have anything to do with the election.
I expressed myself poorly regarding this matter. Ginger's Mom did it far better than I.
Still havent found anything credible on this, so your hearsay is much like the tightly coiled piles my dogs leave in the yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Sorry about that Blue. Perhaps there is a local community college where you can take some classes that will help you learn how to use the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
So you have no legitmate proof to this rumor then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
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Originally Posted by blue
Oh, for pete's sake man, it was all over the news. I saw the coverage of
campaign stops where it happened & it was on ABC news. I'm sure there were
other reports on other newscasts. You want someone else to do the work for
you? It's not gonna happen. You raised the issue, you prove it was false.
I went to google, I typed in the words "Palin rally Obama traitor."
http://www.google.com/search?q=palin...GGL_en___US228
Here was the article at the top of the search: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...5987004&page=1
I'm not sure if you are truly unfamiliar with using google or if you are just trying to ruffle feathers more.
Yes, I too found over 500,000 hits in less that 3 seconds. This one truely deserves many :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Hey you guys give some leeway to the internet challenged:D
That was what I asked for, video proof, not reports on what a reporter reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
I have not been able to find video where someone shouts out "kill him", and in the video K9soul linked to stated someone yelled "off with his head" but failed to show the video proof of it. I have searched for the Video footage of these claims and found a few where people have yelled terrrorist and treason and zero of any footage where somebody yelled "kill him". 500000 google hits mean absolutly nothing if they dont show footage of the reported claim.
So if you dont know the difference between video footage and a report of an event you shouldnt be calling someone internet challenged.
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Originally Posted by caseysmom
LOL Makes a person wonder what kind of news they get up there in Bosilla :D
Blue,
Sorry if I misunderstood what you are looking for. I've seen plenty of youtube clips of people spewing hatred, I clearly heard the "terrorist" call at a clip of one of McCain's rallies, and obviously there was enough of that going on that McCain took notice and eventually spoke up about it. I don't really see yelling "terrorist" as any better than "kill him." None of it is good. That does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that all McCain supporters have those feelings. I don't doubt that the hatred exists. There has always been racism and bigotry, and when a man of a different race is running for the presidency it's bound to come out. Rallies tend to induce a mob mentality in a crowd, and it's really not that much of a stretch to think that in their fervor, some people have yelled out such things. I'm not one to blindly believe whatever the media says, but I don't find it implausible based on other things I have seen and heard.
The suggest that "proof" does exist unless it is on videotape is a little silly.
Life does happen without a video camera turned on!
Geez...this MTV/Reality Show generation! :D;):D
I do not atribute someone yelling "terrorist" after the mention of William Ayres, an actual terroist, to mean NObama is a terrorist so its not the same as "kill him". Nor do I think race has anything to do with it. With all the media coverage of Palins ralies it should be real easy to type "Sarah Palin kill him" into youtubes search engine and find the appropriate video, the worst that comes up is the terrorist comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9soul
The actual video hasnt been posted by those who claim to have seen it, if they have actually seen it at all, choosing instead to make snide and insulting comments. Because of that, Im lead to beleive they are just blowwing smoke.
How odd is that??? YouTube as the definitive source for news!
If is is not on YouTube...it didn't happen!
:D:D:D
Makes all history prior to 2000 and whatever...just blowing smoke! :D
(and to think there are those who laugh at The Daily Show as a news source! )
I just wanted to clarify when I made my comment about bigotry and racism, those are comments I HAVE heard and seen first-hand. "He's an arab" "he's a black" "he's a terrorist" There's a lot of it out there. I hope you're not trying to say no one who is against Obama isn't due to racism issues or because of his name? It's not representative of all McCain/Palin followers, just like nutjob Obama followers aren't representative of all Obama followers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jr2TpMKpWk
Wow...ignorance is alive and well in Ohio! (and I am sure every other state)
I was raised in southwest Missouri, not far from Branson. I am sure some of the people I knew and grew up around would have those same sentiments. I am sure there are many black people voting for Obama on race/color alone too. It is a sad state of affairs when someone's name, religion or color is what someone is judged by.
I know Obama is Christian, though some believe he is secretly muslim. I would have no problem voting for a jewish, muslim, agnostic, or whatever a person's faith may be, if I felt they were qualified and represented the ideas I most agreed with.
It's far more alarming when people act like idiots in front of the microphone - the idiots yelling smack from the crowd is pretty bad, Then you have media 'stars' that say what amounts to hate speech under the guise of comedy or humor. And have no forethought about what they are saying and how it can incite hate?
LOL,
If a comedian or talk show host came out and called Mrs. Biden or Obama a "prostitute" the world would end.
There are a few 'woman' media hosts that only get radio and TV time because they are foul mouthed skanks with no respect for the politicians they constantly bang on.
Some anonymous loud mouth yells some stupidity from a crowd, yet it's quite all right for a media mouth to say what amounts to the same kind of speech?
LOLOLOL, That is precious.
That saddens me so. A nation founded on freedom from government imposed religion still so obsessed with the brand of people's faith instead of the content of their character.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9soul
That vidoe is sad as well. I have family in St Clairsville, Ohio. So not surprising, just sad.
Ive heard the same comments too searching for the "kill him" videos. Yes bigotry and racism are still alive in both parties, booing Barack or yelling "terrorist" isnt allways going to be indicitive of racism or bigotry. Trying to say it is is just as ignorant as saying it isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9soul
You claim to have seen the video, post the link and prove it. Otherwise you are just blowwing smoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Youtube is not a difinitive source, but if it actually happened someone would have posted it there. There are plenty of videos there with the disparaging comments, why isnt this one there? Im actually suprised nobody has posted an editted video as proof. Maybe you could suggest that to the DNC for them to consider.
Doing a google news search dosent come up with a video of the incident, only refferences in reports to it.
I work with someone who has not only cited The Daily Show and the Colbert Report as his sources for a number of "news" items.
I guess you just want to argue, because I don't. I never claimed the terrorist remarks were borne of racism. I just put them in the same category of ignorance as the other remarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
I was agreeing with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9soul
ETA: I had to look at your link on the other comp this one has no sound, thanks for actually posting the link rather then being snide.
Ah my apologies then. I misread you.
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Originally Posted by K9soul
You are too kind. He's backpedaling like crazy. Saying.....
" Yes bigotry and racism are still alive in both parties, booing Barack or yelling "terrorist" isnt allways going to be indicitive of racism or bigotry. Trying to say it is is just as ignorant as saying it isnt."
Doesn't sound like agreement at all. Oh, and you are right K9soul, he
ablsolutely LOVES to argue. Some folks will argue on whether the sun sets
in the west.:rolleyes:
But only if it hasn't been shown on YouTube! :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
my turn, my turn,
neat reading from the Huffington Post (not a website I normally frequent but hey, times are interesting). this is from an essay by Menachem Ronsensaft. This is regarding the era of McCarthism (nothing to do with Paul, pre-you tube)
"Those of us who shout the loudest about Americanism are all too frequently those who, by our own words and acts, ignore some of the basic principles of Americanism."
While these words seem tailor made for the divisive rhetoric of the McCain campaign, they were actually spoken more than 58 years ago on the floor of the United States Senate by Republican Senator Margaret Chase Smith from Maine in her historic repudiation of the vicious character assassinations hurled by Senator Joseph McCarthy against countless Americans. Speaking on behalf of herself and six other Republican Senators, she said that, "The American people are sick and tired of being afraid to speak their minds lest they be politically smeared as 'Communists' or 'Fascists' by their opponents."
The more popular epithets emanating from present-day Republican apparatchiks and the other flacks associated with the 2008 McCain campaign are "terrorist," "Muslim," and "anti-American," but their intent is the same as the red scare labels used so effectively by their McCarthyite role models: to depict their political adversaries generally, and Barack Obama specifically, as somehow dangerous, subversive, even evil.
(he then gives some examples from the current campaign)
....
In her 1950 Declaration of Conscience, Margaret Chase Smith said that "I don't want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny -- Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear." John McCain, Sarah Palin and the Republican Party have knowingly resurrected these demons with a vengeance. We must not, we cannot let them get away with it.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
What I stated about bigotry and racism in both parties is true enough, you see a back pedal I see agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
At least K9soul actually Posted the link instead of making belittling and insulting comments, unlike the two of you.
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Originally Posted by catland
Great post catland.:) So apropos. Thank you for posting it.
But its OK to call somebody a racist if they say something bad about BO? Or its OK to "shut out" a media venue for asking tough questions?
McCain's campaign is not the only one that is negative and devisive.
I hope you aren't referring to me here? I haven't personally seen anyone here call someone else here a racist for being against Obama? I brought up that racism is an issue in this election with some people in the U.S. and then posted the video link to show what I was talking about. It wasn't any secret implication towards individuals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
It's unfortunate that race is an issue at all, but it is. I heard on the news last night that there was an assasination plot against Obama that the FBI just broke up. It was two skinheads, wanting to kill 88 black people I think, including him. How sad...:(
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Originally Posted by K9soul
I am not referring to anybody here. Just the tone of the campaigns.
Thanks for the clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
I'm actually more surprised of the people that say that they haven't heard him called the Messiah. B/c I sure have and I've really tried hard not to listen!
Some are more interested in what the candidates have to say than in the names the candidates are called by others!Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
True story. And you know I love you Sara!Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
And all I'm gonna say is I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL IT IS ALLLLL OVER! I've had it with all of it!