I'm not rushing anything, believe me. Maybe next year? Maybe a few years? Right now, with the hours, it's just not manageable.
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I'm not rushing anything, believe me. Maybe next year? Maybe a few years? Right now, with the hours, it's just not manageable.
I don't think I was jumping to conclusions? I just thought it was common knowledge that a puppy needs a potty break every 3 or so hours. I wouldn't leave my adult dogs inside for 12-14 hours, without a potty break, so I agree with you on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
I don't know, it's just puzzeling to me, why your work hours weren't considered before Woody was flown out. :confused: But I have nothing else to say, so I'll just drop it.
Actually my work hours were changing as the whole thing was developing. I took on a Homebound students, and the hours changed what she was getting per week, and then between her mom or her cancelling her appt., then me needed to switch somehting from the next day to another day, and just trying to be sane with it all, it ended up taking up more than the number of hours I get paid for because I have to conference with the mom and the teachers at school as well. 5 hours a week extra is fine. Add in another 8-10 with teachers adn parents, and travel time in between these places, it's a pain in the butt, especially when they don't tell you till last minute, or you get there adn the kid is still asleep at 4pm. It just got to be too much of a schedule hassle, but I need the money from that... it's a big help (like over $30/hr), and with my mortgage and the cat expenses, it's not wasted at all.
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Originally Posted by bckrazy
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Originally Posted by bckrazy
actually I thought you were jumping to conclusions and actually rather rude when you said 'worth the trouble.'
to others (b/c I don't want bckrazy to think it is her I have in mind b/c it definately isn't)
Why is it ok on this board for some people to re-home their animals and go out and get others and its fine but ONE person finds a Frigging fabulous home for a puppy b/c she found out was going to be too much for her and its like she hung him out by his toenails??? :mad:
There's other people on this flippin board that are heavy into rescue that keep finding homes for their animals (dogs or cats) and oh its ok b/c its all in the name of rescue. Or oh Its ok b/c they rescue cats or mice or birds or elephants? What's good for one person should be good for the other but it isn't on here.
I have had it with it this mentality on this board. But its ok for someone to rehome their pets b/c they can't afford them and within a year while still complaining about lack of funds - getting more animals?
I've said it before and I'll say it again -
until you walk a mile in someone's shoes you don't know what their life is like.
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Originally Posted by shais_mom
BRAVO !!
thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
I haven't said ANYTHING about the entire Kirby/Woody/Fred thing and I don't even know why I'm bothering now. But I thought it was a horrible idea from the start, and still think it was wrong to fly the pup halfway across the US only to re home him. I agree with everything Erica (bckrazy) had to say. I guess the bottom line is that he did get a good home and I do believe Jenn learned something from the whole ordeal, which makes me happy. But this whole thing could have been prevented from the start (jostling a helpless pup around, spending $, not to mention stress of getting him there, etc) if the situation would have been better analyzed and thought out before hand. Just my 2 cents. *shrugs*
We all learn, every day. It was a learning experience for Jenn, and probably for K9Karen as well!, and we should all be grateful that sweet Fred now has his forever home, a far cry from being found on the streets of Texas, alone and afraid.
And, being a hound pup, it doesn't seem to have bothered him one bit!
I guess this is why if I bred/rescued I wouldn't fly pups out to someone I never met. No puppy should really be left for more than 5 hours alone and you should have known that if you did your research. I feel bad for the little guy that he was bounced around so much. It also seems like you should have asked K9karen if she wanted him before you gave him to someone else since she had such a big part in his transport and fell in love with him. If you did ask her i'm sorry for mentioning this.
I AGREE! Honestly. Listen to the last sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
No offense.. but can I just say...
THANK YOU for stating it!
Geez, please, let this issue go. Kirby/Woody/Fred is in a GOOD HOME! Isn't that what we all want for a puppy/kitten/dog/cat... ANY type of animal that needs a loving home? The key word is "LOVING"..
This is why I don't post much often around here.... sorry. I've been bitten my head off about my post of Anna once, and that made me realize something, and that was only at least two years ago.
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
Karen had pretty much made it clear she wasn't ready for a puppy at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3muttsandaboston
Well, if puppies shouldn't be left alone then I should re-home my 6 year old Keegan b/c she was left home while I worked full time and am a single person.
This mentality that only non-single people can have dogs is for the birds.
My "neglected" as a puppy golden retriever is in a lot better home with me working full time than a lot of other people who have family members home all day. Someone might want to tell her she's neglected b/c I'm sure she doesn't realize that seeings that I just spent the last four months with her 24/7 while I was off work for a broken foot.
the superior attitude of some of the naysayer's make me really glad I'm not frequenting here as much. I'm glad everyone else is so perfect. I'm humbled in your presence. :rolleyes:
if its wrong to fly him across the country then flying any puppy should be banned from the airlines.Quote:
Originally Posted by k9krazee
All PTrs care about animals.
Just a reminder - people are animals too. :)
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Originally Posted by CountryWolf07
thank you Rachel!
I didn't say that it was wrong to leave an adult dog home alone but I think it is wrong to leave a young puppy home alone. Their bladders just aren't meant to be held yet.
I am not sure what re-homing Keegan at this point would do. I got Ginger as a puppy, I would not get another puppy again while working full-time. It really was a mistake. My girl survived just fine, but my carpet didn't (and my nerves almost didn't). It is probably a lot of extra stress that isn't good for the pup when it has so much to learn in that first year. I would consider adopting an older dog, however. And once I am not working full-time, if I have the patience I may try a puppy again.Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
I also have to say that I think comparing this to people who rescue dogs/cats from shelters, spend time teaching them some manners and learning their ideosyncracies and interviewing people to find the right home, to this situation is rather insulting to the many people who put so much time and effort into rescue. JMO.
I haven't been around much lately, so I missed this all when it happened, but I just read through this thread and I have to say I am surprised by some of the responses. shais_mom said it best:
I completely agree. To those of you looking down on Jenn.....if only we were all as "perfect" as you.....Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
Jenn: As hard as it may be, sometimes the best thing we can do for a pet is to rehome him/her if we can't give them the care they deserve. ((((hugs)))) I am sure that this was not an easy decision in any way. You did what was best for Kirby/Woody.
As it's been said before....
YOU LIVE AND YOU LEARN.
Staci said it perfectly!!
I told some people that I wasn't going to comment in this thread but I do have to say one thing. Everyone will have differing opinions, some will take sides - however, that does NOT make anyone right or wrong and it certainly does not call for sarcasm or rolly eyes.
I wish you well, Woody/Kirby/Phred, and hopefully this whole ordeal is forgotten by you and smothered with love. :)
Eh, and that's totally not what I meant. I have no problems with dogs and airlines whatsoever. My point was it was a waste of resources to fly him across the country when a local home would have been SOOOO much easier for all parties involved. That's all I was trying to say. That the money and time spent of sending this pup could have been used to save five other dogs as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
I do agree that you live and learn, and I have no harsh feelings toward Jenn and her decision.
We do funny things when we are smitten by a dog. :) I vowed that I would never get a puppy in the winter because I didn't want to have to housebreak a dog in bad weather. Well, I went to "look" at Bella in February. She was in the car on the way home :) and I was out every morning after that in my bathrobe and slippers walking her in ice, sleet and snow. :rolleyes: :D
Ash - what about all the dogs that were flown to new homes after Katrina and the WTC?
I'm not being a &itch (b/c I love you!) I just fail to see the difference.
I would NEVER re-home Keegan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom
and I'm not talking about the animals that these people are rescuing - these were their own pets that is what I am talking about.
That's way different to me because homes weren't necessarily available locally. This case was COMPLETELY different because a highly adoptable pup was flown, and much money and stress later, went to a few more homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
But alas, this is why I only enjoy reading threads like this, not replying. ;) I just feel as if we're dragging this topic out.
Same here... can we just stop, please???Quote:
Originally Posted by k9krazee
If anyone wants to keep commenting, I'll put a new thread in the Dog House and y'all can contribute to that one. It will be titled "Jennie didn't think thoroughly before she acted" or something like that...
BTW.. I do do rescue, but have only dealt with cats. I've done transport for dogs (the blind and the deaf), but that's it. I had dogs when I was younger, when I lived on a farm, and as I said, housebreaking wasn't an issue, or at least not that I can recall. I'm sure my parents do though... And, there was always someone home (my dad worked afternoons, my mom worked days).
So many things you realize when you look back on something in hindsight and see what you didn't plan for (when you planned for a million other things)....