Courtesy versus Religion.

Dietary restrictions for health reasons are more important than religious/lifestyle choices.


For some people something as innocent as peanuts can kill them.

If I drink milk in 15 minutes you can hear my stomach across the room and I'll be in the potty for the rest of the day.

Veganism is a choice-not a religion. I have had to put up with people who don't drink milk, wear leather and then procede to yak about how I am wrecking my health. 80 percent of the time, Veggies are rude ...
I live in the capital of vegans......I have seen this time and time again.

Living in Lost Angeles, land of the fruits, nuts and space aliens, I have seen people in line and in restaurants making such a big deal out of THEIR choices.

I get incensed with I hear a veggie bugging a server about ordering.

"Is the milk organic?" what about the tomatoes?" "I only eat free range cabbage!" "what kind of oil do you use?" 'Are the napkins made out of hemp?"
" I only drink spring water......"

I don't expect people to eat a taco or drink booze for the hell of it..I just like to experience life without someone complaining aboiut the THEIR demons-
Politeness does work.


And since we are heading into choices......Check this one out!!!

Another woman in my office would refuse to partake in our pot luck meals...

Why? she didn't like to eat food that was "picked thru by people before her".

So we had to set up the vittles and wait for her so we could eat....We had to wait for her to "pick thru" the food before we could eat......sometimes we had to postphone our lunches 40 minutes to accomodate this AH.

She was a MORON!

LOL Richard.


Where does this feeling of entitlement come from these days?

Everyone thinks people should make special arrangements just for them no matter how inconvenient it is for everyone else. What happened to common courtesy?

I hate walking around a public pool with wet feet but I don't DEMAND that they mop the ground everytime I want to walk around somewhere..... I DEAL WITH IT.

If she doesn't want to eat pot luck because she doesn't like food that has been touched before her then she should bring her own lunch. What if TWO people didn't want to eat food that had been touched before them? They can't BOTH have first dibs.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Dietary restrictions for health reasons are more important than religious/lifestyle choices.

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Ah, the King has spoken. For me, my choices are just as important as someone else's....no matter their origin.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Veganism is a choice-not a religion. I have had to put up with people who don't drink milk, wear leather and then procede to yak about how I am wrecking my health. 80 percent of the time, Veggies are rude ...
I live in the capital of vegans......I have seen this time and time again.

I get incensed with I hear a veggie bugging a server about ordering.

"Is the milk organic?" what about the tomatoes?" "I only eat free range cabbage!" "what kind of oil do you use?" 'Are the napkins made out of hemp?"
" I only drink spring water......"

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Richard, a vegatarian lifestyle, in all of its different 'grades' or 'levels' usually rotates around the origin of the food, not whether it is organic, whether one wears leather, or if napkins are made out of hemp. So, I question some of your conclusions. While I do drink organic milk, and buy some organic veggies, I don't care about hemp products at all. I don't know other vegatarians that are 'rude' anymore than I know of any one group that is rude.

I can only conclude you know, perhaps, the most rudest people I have ever heard of.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Another woman in my office would refuse to partake in our pot luck meals...

Why? she didn't like to eat food that was "picked thru by people before her".

So we had to set up the vittles and wait for her so we could eat....We had to wait for her to "pick thru" the food before we could eat......sometimes we had to postphone our lunches 40 minutes to accomodate this AH.

She was a MORON!

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From my perspective, the ONLY one with a problem in this scenario is the person/people that waited, postponing lunches for 40 minutes. To think that one single person had a group of people so well trained is remarkable. I don't know of such people. Must be the one benefit of living in boring ole Ohio. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Cataholic
... To think that one single person had a group of people so well trained is remarkable. I don't know of such people. Must be the one benefit of living in boring ole Ohio. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
you never met teresa at my job, here in columbus ohio. ;) . and after 10 minutes, i'd be digging in. :p

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

Ah, the King has spoken. For me, my choices are just as important as someone else's....no matter their origin.




Richard, a vegatarian lifestyle, in all of its different 'grades' or 'levels' usually rotates around the origin of the food, not whether it is organic, whether one wears leather, or if napkins are made out of hemp. So, I question some of your conclusions. While I do drink organic milk, and buy some organic veggies, I don't care about hemp products at all. I don't know other vegatarians that are 'rude' anymore than I know of any one group that is rude.

I can only conclude you know, perhaps, the most rudest people I have ever heard of.



From my perspective, the ONLY one with a problem in this scenario is the person/people that waited, postponing lunches for 40 minutes. To think that one single person had a group of people so well trained is remarkable. I don't know of such people. Must be the one benefit of living in boring ole Ohio. :rolleyes:

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Now they lay his body down
Sad old men who run this town
I still recall the way
He led the charge and saved the day
Blue blood and rain
I can hear the bugle playin'

We seen the last of Good King Richard
Ring out the past his name lives on
Roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher
Raise up your glass to Good King John

Sorry, I have a queen already...I'll file your application...

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I would rather see the veggies flopping around on the ground because of their limited choices at an eatery than a person who is having a seizure/event from an allergic reaction to food, Just my own perference.

I dunno how the vegans act in the "bread basket" of America.
Out here in Lost Angeles they are obnoxious, rude and scary. Remember, I do live in the "big city"- the flotsam and jetsam wash up on our shore more often.


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About the 'Delay the Meal' co worker..


She was a work in progress.

This was a union shop.

She was a woman, a minority, she was disabled and she knew how to work the system.

So.....If you did cut lines at the pot luck, the whole office suffered and suffer we did. Because she processed the people coming into the office how late the others worked depended on her.

So......if you got her mad, she'd tell the patient to show up at 5:15 in the afternoon, she'd leave at 5:30 and the educator, phlebotomist and scheduler had to work until 6:30-7...

Complain?

We were playing the race card, discriminating against her because she was a woman, had a disability or were being mean.

She had a separate boss, so WE had to conform to her ideas, whims and moods.....

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Living in Lost Angeles, land of the fruits, nuts and space aliens

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Ah, this reminds me of the time my sister lived in L.A. She wouldn't eat, drink or smoke anything unless it was natural :rolleyes: Needless to say, when she came home for Thanksgiving all she did was eat & drink all the un-natural things she could get her hands on - yes, McDonalds was also on her list!! IMO her smoking all that natural stuff got to her!! :p


I have many Jewish friends who do celebrate Christmas along with their holidays. I use to have a boss that was brought up Mormon, he told me that they use to eas & drink anything they wanted.....as long as it wasn't if front of the family! He also refered to his former religion as "Moron's".

I am SO glad I no longer work, now you have to be careful what you say & do and to whom! What is this world coming to?!

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

80 percent of the time, Veggies are rude ...
I live in the capital of vegans......I have seen this time and time again.

Living in Lost Angeles, land of the fruits, nuts and space aliens, I have seen people in line and in restaurants making such a big deal out of THEIR choices.

I get incensed with I hear a veggie bugging a server about ordering.

"Is the milk organic?" what about the tomatoes?" "I only eat free range cabbage!" "what kind of oil do you use?" 'Are the napkins made out of hemp?"
" I only drink spring water......"

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That sounds excessive, I've never heard anyone asking questions that specific here in Chicagoland. But I'm willing to bet it has happened.

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Originally Posted by cassiesmom

That sounds excessive, I've never heard anyone asking questions that specific here in Chicagoland. But I'm willing to bet it has happened.

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That conversation is a mixture of some of the conversations I have heard.
I am being facetious and over the top.

I think the world has lost their perception on all this holiday exclusion stuff. If I give someone a card or a gift, it's because I like them and want to share one of the most important times of my life with them. I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm trying to share. I got wished a "Happy Father's Day" once and I can quarentee I have never been nor never will be a father. I just grinned and said "Thank YOU!!!"

We are fast coming to the time when no one will be able to celebrate anything in public. I heard on Fox news just today of an appartment complex that were forbidden to display any type of outside holiday decorations. No lights or even a wreath. The people would be evicted if they did.

This happened to the retirement complex one of my aunts lived in too. The first year she was there they had a grand time. Every corner was decorated and they had dinners and lots of fun all month for all. Then this one grumpy guy moved in who threatened to sue if Christmas was displayed. That's how he made his living by sueing people, by the way. Anyway, what a depressing year that was for all of them. No decorations, no smiles, no dinners. They were all so depressed. Luckily, he moved out so now they can have fun again.

I say to all, enjoy all the holidays now because the time is coming, unless there is a change in the attitudes in this country, when it will be illegel to celebrate anything UNLESS PRE-APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT! :(

I think it's very sad indeed when people are rude to someone who is trying to be kind and thoughtful towards them. I feel there is so much anger and rudeness in the world on a daily basis, that we all ought to be thankful for a kind gesture.

A Christmas card or greeting, 99% of the time, is given with kind thoughts in mind. It's not meant to try to convert someone to another religion. I truly don't understand. If someone gives a gift for your birthday, for example, that you don't like, you are gracious about it, right? You say, "Oh, thank you so much for the lovely lime green knitted slippers, Aunt Martha. You must have worked so hard on them!" You don't say, "OMG, I don't wear slippers! My feet are always hot! These are ugly and too small!" So why do people not practice the same good manners and grace when presented with a card or a friendly salutation?

As for food, my brother has been a vegetarian for decades. He would not eat meat just to be polite. Nor should he be expected to. However, I've never once heard him declare his beliefs for all to hear, or say anything negative about the meals prepared for him. He quietly and graciously just passes on the dishes made with meat. He expects no one to know or care about his personal choices. As it should be, IMO.

When my niece was born, my sister sent birth announcements to her friends and co-workers. She sent one to one of her co-workers, who, unknown to my sister, was a Jehovah's Witness. The woman later berated and chastised my sister for violating her religious views, for being unfeeling and uncaring, etc. My sister had NO idea what she talking about. Well, turns out my sister had put a postage stamp on the envelope that happened to be about donating blood, an apparent no-no in this woman's religion. An extreme example, to be sure, but sadly, not all that uncommon these days. :(

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Originally Posted by Twisterdog

When my niece was born, my sister sent birth announcements to her friends and co-workers. She sent one to one of her co-workers, who, unknown to my sister, was a Jehovah's Witness. The woman later berated and chastised my sister for violating her religious views, for being unfeeling and uncaring, etc. My sister had NO idea what she talking about. Well, turns out my sister had put a postage stamp on the envelope that happened to be about donating blood, an apparent no-no in this woman's religion. An extreme example, to be sure, but sadly, not all that uncommon these days. :(

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That is a no win situation. If your niece hadn't sent her a card the lady would have been just as mad!!! Some people just like to gripe because they are miserable and want everyone else to be too. :(

I agree with the dietary requirement issue - however, please please, if I invite you over for dinner, tell me what you can't eat. I will be more than happy to make something you can eat!!! I don't want to make a roast, if all you wanted were the potatoes and vegies! :D

As for the "postage blood donor" - good grief, geta life!!! It is not as if you did it on purpose ....

And Richard, backing up your vegan "issues" :D - IMO if you are a vegan, GO TO A VEGAN restaurant!!! There are so many of them in Australia ...... well, in Melbourne anyway :D

As an aside, last year, I bought a roll of Christmas paper - all excited because it looked so fabulous through the wrapper. Only to discover when I opened it, it was for a Jewish holiday :D
I laughed, and gave it to my Jewish friends - who could not believe you could actually buy JEWISH wrapping paper :D

I don't think the first example was necessarily rude... he was making a meal just for her, she should let him know while he was shopping what her restrictions are. However, if a group meal has been prepared, by all means you should try to be gracious about it and not expect everyone else to make allowances for your preferences, especially if you don't have any good reason to assume they would be aware of them.

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Originally Posted by Sophist

I don't think the first example was necessarily rude... he was making a meal just for her, she should let him know while he was shopping what her restrictions are..

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Oh, she wasn't rude...She waited uintil the poor guy had shopped for half the meal.

He told her up front that he was making two fish dishes....one was in filet form, the other was sushi. Now, I don't mind a sake with my sushi.....But if a chef type person offeree me a meal I'd suspect that alcohol was part of the menu, either cokking or drinking.

My point was that people aren't williing to be polite by pointing out that they do have a dietary restriction because of their religion..

This woman didn't become a Mormon until he got the wine......Then she got religion......

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Originally Posted by captain

And Richard, backing up your vegan "issues" :D - IMO if you are a vegan, GO TO A VEGAN restaurant!!! There are so many of them in Australia ...... well, in Melbourne anyway :D

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If I had to go to a vegan restuarant everytime I wanted to eat out, I would never eat outside of home....I have been a vegetarian for 10 years and have many vegetarian friends and I have never met one that flops around if everyone isn't completely accomodating, as RICHARD suggests.

I don't agree with trying to "convert" people to vegetarianism but I also don't agree with religious beliefs being pushed onto others, either, as some people do. For some reason, it seems people are only allow to hold beliefs if they are institutionalized.