Before I start another thread and posting pics.
What does PetTalk say about guns? Yea or Nay.
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Before I start another thread and posting pics.
What does PetTalk say about guns? Yea or Nay.
This battle is going on in Canada...a gun registry was established a couple of years ago, and was a total dud as far as the administrative work...not efficient at all.
The shootings in our city, as in many others, are done by criminals who get the guns illegally. One recent incident (see General for story on the young man blinded) was caused by a shooter who had been int court before, and was under order to not possess firearms.
JMO - Gun control punishes the lawful, and does nothing to stop the criminal from using guns.
It is an okay topic - the Dog House is for anything controversial. As long as you remember that this is Pet Talk, and stay polite and respectful of people even if they have differing opinions, the topic is okay to discuss.
There have been threads about hunting before, do a search, and you'll see many threads. Read a few before posting, just so you don't duplicate a discussion that has already happened.
I have a gun (45). I like it...
I would want it if someone broke into my house...
I dont want to use it, but I would;)
I say crispy, not limp!
And is it really Canadian?:confused:
My dad was a Mountie for 20 years. At the time he joined (1948) the standard issue was a Colt .45 (I believe it's now a .38)
He was in Air Division, so was away a lot. When my sister and I quite young - maybe 6 or so? - he showed us the top drawer of his dresser where the gun was kept. He was adamently clear that we were NEVER to touch it UNLESS someone broke in while he was away. The bullets were loose - I don't think the gun was loaded - and he showed me how to hold it properly and what to do (gun WAS unloaded for this!). That thing weighed a TON - but I was able to hold it on my own.
I guess it made sense - if Mom was grabbed, one of us had to help out.
We never had to use it, thank God.
A certain law came in, late 90's, and all handguns were to be handed in to the gov't. Dad had died in 1996 - and this gun was a part of what he had done and who he was - it meant something to our family, and not as a weapon.
The law was changed to read that these guns could be kept if they were deactivated, and that this process was documented and sent to the gov't.
Good thing we never had to grab an inactive gun to fight someone who had stolen theirs. :rolleyes:
Thanks, Dad. :) {{{hugs}}}:love:
I have a Rugar .357 Magnum from when I was with the Auxillary State Police. It is locked and loaded. I am a revolver expert, according to the State Police. As long as the Constitution says it's within my rights to have a gun, I will keep my little friend handy but safe.
Criminals can get guns whenever they want one so I don't think that gun control is going to do any good.
Im not a hunter so my guns are for personal protection and target shooting. There are some hunters who diasprove of my choice in rifles.
I wish there were fewer guns on the streets of Chicago being used to shoot people. There's no easy answer for the issue of gun violence, at least in Chicago. It is getting more attention because of Chicago's bid for the Olympic Games and because of the number of children and teenagers being shot. Plus, the shooters' guns have more power than police officers' guns do. This past spring they tried to arm the police with more powerful guns.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread351814/pg1
It is definitely a many-faceted problem.
What's with the bacon and pirate choice??? I so don't get that one.
Ok, that is just weird. Why bacon? Is Pirate4x4 an odd site?
Bacon is awesome for starters. I guess off roaders and firearm enthusiests have an affinity for the pork product known as bacon.
And since this is a firearms thread here are some firearms.
http://www.geocities.com/duffy7836/FA005.jpg
Can I just take the bacon?? ;) The one show on Food Network made it where they put brown sugar on top and baked it. I wanted to dive through the screen.
Blue, have you ever fired one of these - I have
http://matthrivnak.com/wp-content/up...008/05/uzi.jpg
Deep fried Bacon, eggs, and susage.
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/IMG_0120.jpg
The full thread, link.
LOL Blue... you know my stance on this :D
I sucked with this... need some practice... give me a break it was my first time out with a shot gun (even if it was a youth model to accomodate my short arms lol)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...tgunTanya1.jpg
but I ROCKED with this... also my first time
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...yarifle1-2.jpg
My very first target :)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...anyatarget.jpg
Sparks, I have an AK47 that you could rock with. The stock is too short for me but I keep it as it is for others to shoot.
A 10 or 11 year old kid was hitting a playing card at 300 yards with the rifle. Thats some good shooting with an AK.
Turkey bacon, pls.
If it's a semi-auto that looks like an AK, please call it what it is.
There are far, far too many people with no understanding of US gun laws who will grab statements like that and say "SEE!!!! Anyone can buy an AK-47"......
With no understanding of what it is.
There's enough misrepresentation of firearms in the media, no need to add to it.
To those who mightbe reading this thread and don't know, ACTUAL AK-47's are relatively rare, and you need a damned expensive license to buy one.
I don't really understand the need for the AK47s and other guns like them being needed in the average home. Blue's picture kinda freaked me out. Wouldn't want to live next door to that arsenal.
I can understand a handgun for protection if that's what you want it for, but why all the other big guns?? I'm not saying like a rifle you shoot a deer with, but the assault rifles. Assault Rifle. Kinda gives the impression of exactly what it is.
There are just way too many guns on the streets, and way too many easy ways for them to get into the hands of people who want to use them against other people.
I remember watching "Bowling for Columbine" and it was one of those mid western states or somewhere out there, where if you opened up a bank account with a certain amount of money, you got a free gun of your choice. I about fell over viewing that. What the heck kind of institution has that kind of "free gift when opening an account"?
I want to see less guns on the streets (we have way too many here in Allentown), stricter gun laws, and tougher repercussions for those who are found with them and don't have any license to carry them. There need to be more restrictions with the licenses and what guns are allowed to be carried as protection as well. AK47s, and guns like that, are not in that category, in my opinion.
Turkey bacon qualifies in my book as bacon. It tastes just as good. :)
Thanks jenn-librarian. I agree with you.
Glad someone else shares my opinion.
With the exception of the bacon part... :P
LH,
Thanks!
The 'Automat Kallishikov' is the daddy to the AKS and the later 74 models.
The russians designated their rifles (and tanks) with the year they were introduced/produced.
The whole AK 'aura' is carried on by stupid rappers who, are smarter than we give them credit for, they know which is the dangerous end.
Now AKs are made on some 10 countries and have different designations according to where they are manufactured.
I was watching a program on assault rifles and the speaker said that in some third world countries an AK style rifle can be made of parts from different plant/countries-that is how tight the tolerances and universal the model is.
The Kalishnikov story is very interesting - in arms history.
Did you know that there is a likeness of an AK on one African country's flag?:confused:
Thanks from me too LH for pointing that out. I know people in Nevada who have actual AKs and aren't letting them go because they got them before the era of licences and the like.
Kind of scary knowing the people who DO have them lol.
I find target shooting fun myself. My dad has quite a collection and he uses them for sport target shooting, not home defense. He has a 45 revolver with a scope (yes, a scope) that has been used to hunt large game that he would never fire during a home invasion. The risk of hitting some innocent bystander is too great with a weapon that size. He has the firearm for its collectors appeal and for the fun of shooting it (and probibly the fun of knowing people can hear the darn thing for miles lol)
Shooting doesn't have to mean killing something, even though thats what most people sadly believe.
The biggest problem with firearms is their misuse, but as I've said before, almost anything can be misused to harm someone. I personally have shot a rifle a few times, at a range. I thought it was loud and smelly (and I was a TERRIBLE shot!:D) But, I think, at least in the USA, it would be very difficult to achieve the low level of guns on the street that seems to exist in the UK and other places. Seems that the rules on the books put both cops and law abiding citizens at a disadvantage. Just my 2 cents!
Dan my boy!!! Whats happen-in? LOL
You and your AK's.... I just never got into AKs. Probably because the only AKs I ever fired were ones we captured from bad guys and those were very poorly maintained. However, they WERE very poorly maintained, yet continued to function. If I treated my M-4 like that, it would go 'click' and not bang. Very bad when you need it most.
Uzi.. Fired one a few times. Both semi and auto. Meh. It was accurate, for a sub gun. Great for CQB, but would not be worth much on the battlefield. but also remember, I was/am a tanker. Anything smaller than .50cal is just a toy.
My $.02 on 'gun control'. Gun control solves nothing. CRIMINAL control solves most things.
Glad to see ya here Dan. I give ya 2-3 weeks till you get a spankin from the mods. ;)
Does anyone remember the North Hollywood Shootout at the Bank Of America?
I drove by there the day afer the shooting and you would not believe the mess from the stray shots.
One pretty "impressive" sight was a light standard/pole- The poured concrete type with the steel rebar running thru it- that had been hit with a bullet.
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The chunk missing was about the size of my fist-I wear a Large-XL glove- and the steel shell around a payphone had a nice hole thru it.
Amazing that not more people were hurt.
Guns are tools and are a part of life.
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Jenn,
The Bowling for Columbine movie was horse shiat. The customer was given a certificate for a gun, not actually handed one on the property.
If you walked down the street in your neighborhood you probably live closer to an aresenal than you think. I have some guns in my house and access to more that belonged to my dad. I don't think about them and don't pull them out for any purpose except to shoot them and it's been years since that happened.
I love the look of guns and probably would collect them just to have them. I would love a Belgian FN FAL, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I do have a BIL who was a cop, mind you, and I would never trust him with any type of gun. That dude also collect 'German' war memorabilia. Creepy when he pulls out the "Hitler Youth Knife" to show you.:rolleyes:
It's not the gun, It's the moron on the trigger.
Also, I don't know how the laws have changed since, but you could by a semi auto rifle, purchase a "trigger kit" from another source and with a few tools and knowledge of guns turn it into a machine gun. THe same thing with a .50 caliber Barrett rifle. You could buy the parts to it and either put it together yourself or have a gunsmith hook you up.
There are ways around any gun laws and it's all a matter of who owns them.
Absolutely.
I grew up in a house full of guns. My dad was an avid marksman, collector and hunter. They were a part of life, and we never gave them a second thought. They were tools, to be used by adults. We would have no more thought of playing with one of dad's guns than we would have thought of playing with the lawnmower, the car or the oven. If we wanted to shoot a gun, he took us out in the desert and taught us to do it safely and properly.
If I decide I want to kill you, I can certainly do it with a gun. I can also do it with a kitchen knife, a car, a pillow, a hammer, a rock or my bare hands. The tool is not the killer, the person using the tool is the killer. How many people are killed each year in this country by motor vehicles vs. firearms? Hmmm ...
We have a vast collection of guns. Of course, they are locked up in a gun safe. My father passed away in February, and we divided his collection. He had everything from a little chrome .32, to an antique Colt .45 that was his great uncle's when he was the sheriff of Lubbock Texas, to foreign assault rifles, black powder, cap and ball, shotguns ... you name it. We haven't even had time to sort through it all yet.
Gotta disagree with the movie being "shiat". I thought it was very well done. I've actually liked most of his movies. I know, I know... you either love Michael Moore, or you hate him. I happen to love him.
I know there are a lot more guns in my neighborhood than I'd like to even think about. I belong to the neighborhood association, and I get the emails about the "problem" houses and such in the area. Way too many for my peace of mind. Mostly they are transient families who won't be there next year, but then again, who will move in after them. It's those types of landlords that just rent to anyone to get their rent money. They don't give a crap.
It's gotta come down to laws and who is allowed to own a gun, types of gun depending on where you live and what you'd actually need it for, and how many.
I think there needs to be stricter controls on it all. I also think that we need to stop pandering to the criminals and actually lock them up. Stop serving them gourmet cuisine, and funding their college degrees. That pisses me off like crazy. They're criminals and should be treated as such, not like they're Paris Hilton in jail. When did the people running the jails forget that these are people who committed some pretty hideous crimes.
I'm all for "rehabilitation", but not to this extent.