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SANDY FROST
09-18-2005, 08:00 PM
Please remember if you're going to leave your dog in the car. please roll the window 1/4 to 1/2 down but not all the way down.
The idea is to give your dog air and to stay cool but not to get out. I work in a grocery store where I was putting a shopping cart back outside ans along came this dog wanting to get into the store. She almost got hit twice. I made anounement over the store intercomand ind in 2 minutes flat a lady came and was gratful to me but she thought leaving the window all the down her dog wouldn't try to get out. Please care about your dogs and think before you act.:D
Sandy Frost

Giselle
09-18-2005, 09:53 PM
Please don't leave your dog in an unattended car, PERIOD.

PJ's Mom
09-18-2005, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Giselle
Please don't leave your dog in an unattended car, PERIOD.

Absoultely. It drives me crazy to see a dog locked in a car, especially in this heat. :mad:

Why would you tell people to leave their dogs locked in their car? :confused: :rolleyes:

IRescue452
09-18-2005, 10:54 PM
Only time I leave my dog is to run into the bank or post office. They are three blocks away from my house and Autumn likes the ride. I wouldn't even bring my dogs if I were going to the store.

luvofallhorses
09-18-2005, 11:02 PM
This is one of my pet peeves, DON'T leave a dog in your car, period when it's hotter than blazes out! :mad: Last time I went to Wal-mart, there was this poor little dog in the car w/ just a crack of the window down, we came back out and the dog was STILL there!! :mad: That pisses me off to no flippin' end!

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:02 PM
We leave Cagney in the car sometimes. Never when it is to hot out and we are careful about the windows but he likes it and he loves car rides. When you are doing it properly I dont see the big deal.

SANDY FROST
09-18-2005, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by luvofallhorses
This is one of my pet peeves, DON'T leave a dog in your car, period when it's hotter than blazes out! :mad: Last time I went to Wal-mart, there was this poor little dog in the car w/ just a crack of the window down, we came back out and the dog was STILL there!! :mad: That pisses me off to no flippin' end!
IAGREE.
Sandy Frost

poofy
09-18-2005, 11:19 PM
If you want to take your dog for a ride take it for a ride, but dont leave it in the car..I think that is awfull.. If I cant take SammyJ in, I dont take him,If i want to take him for a ride I take him to my sisters and leave him there and pick him up on the way home, hes had his ride and outing and visiting and was comfortable and happy and with someone all the time..:D :D

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:20 PM
Why is it so awful!?

poofy
09-18-2005, 11:22 PM
would you leave your child unattened in the car..its the same thing.

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by poofy
would you leave your child unattened in the car..its the same thing.

Depending on his/her age, yes.

luvofallhorses
09-18-2005, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by CagneyDog
Depending on his/her age, yes.

:eek:

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by luvofallhorses
:eek:


You've never waited alone in a car while your parents were at the grocery store or something:eek:

luvofallhorses
09-18-2005, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by CagneyDog
You've never waited alone in a car while your parents were at the grocery store or something:eek:

Yes, I have, but 99.9 % of the time...I go in with them. Why would you want to leave your dog in a car when it's hotter than blazes out?? :confused: let alone a child.

poofy
09-18-2005, 11:31 PM
I have grandchildren and greatgrandchildren, and none of them no matter their age I woulndt make them stay in a car while I went indoors..can your dog tell you if he wants to or not..I assume i wouldnt like it, so I dont do it to my pet.:eek:

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by luvofallhorses
Yes, I have, but 99.9 % of the time...I go in with them. Why would you want to leave your dog in a car when it's hotter than blazes out?? :confused: let alone a child.


I already mentioned that we only do it when its not hot out. Why would you assume it is "hot as blazes out"?

So if u have stayed in a car before whats so shocking.

luvofallhorses
09-18-2005, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by CagneyDog
I already mentioned that we only do it when its not hot out. Why would you assume it is "hot as blazes out"?

So if u have stayed in a car before whats so shocking.

:rolleyes:

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by poofy
I have grandchildren and greatgrandchildren, and none of them no matter their age I woulndt make them stay in a car while I went indoors..can your dog tell you if he wants to or not..I assume i wouldnt like it, so I dont do it to my pet.:eek:


Well if he didn't like it he wouldn't love car rides so much.

kittycats_delight
09-18-2005, 11:34 PM
Just because he loves car rides does not mean he likes being locked in the car by himself while you go off and do your thing.

poofy
09-18-2005, 11:37 PM
Your so right KittyKats Delight..my dog loves car rides..but I know he dosnt like being alone..he dont even like it if i leave him alone at home.. so I know he woulnt like that..I try to take him to some one if I can..if not I try to not stay gone to long, but he loves to visit my sister she spoils him..:D better than sitting locked in a car by himself.

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by kittycats_delight
Just because he loves car rides does not mean he likes being locked in the car by himself while you go off and do your thing.

Well if he associated car rides with being alone and he didn't like it he would not be excited to go on them. I have watched him from inside stores, he loves watching the people.

kittycats_delight
09-18-2005, 11:43 PM
All dogs are curious. They enjoy the freedom they feel from a car ride. They usually don't associate car ride with being left alone but with being out in the cool fresh air and the excitement of seeing new things. He enjoys watching people because 9 chances out of 10 he is expecting each one of the to come let him out or pay him attention. Does he not get very excited when you come back to the car? That is because they don't like being alone. They are social creatures and unless they were solitary animals then they want to be in the company of someone not left alone in a car.

CagneyDog
09-18-2005, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by kittycats_delight
All dogs are curious. They enjoy the freedom they feel from a car ride. They usually don't associate car ride with being left alone but with being out in the cool fresh air and the excitement of seeing new things. He enjoys watching people because 9 chances out of 10 he is expecting each one of the to come let him out or pay him attention. Does he not get very excited when you come back to the car? That is because they don't like being alone. They are social creatures and unless they were solitary animals then they want to be in the company of someone not left alone in a car.


This doesn't make sense, he would just be left at home ALONE then. He isn't the kind of dog that wants constant attention. He is old and he likes being alone.


He is relaxed in their, sometimes he even sleeps.

Kfamr
09-18-2005, 11:51 PM
I personally would never leave my dogs alone ANYWHERE, besides in our own home or in a home of our friend's.

Being in Florida there's no way a dog would survive in the car with no AC. If we bring one of the dogs on a car ride to go to the store, I stay in the car with them, WITH the AC on.
Besides getting heat stroke, who knows if someone's going to tease them, steal them, etc. If the windows down, slip them something dangerous to eat. So many things could happen and I prefer to take that extra step to make sure they are safe. There's so many evil people out there who are willing to do all of the above without any guilt on their mind whatsoever.

kittycats_delight
09-19-2005, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by CagneyDog
This doesn't make sense, he would just be left at home ALONE then. He isn't the kind of dog that wants constant attention. He is old and he likes being alone.


He is relaxed in their, sometimes he even sleeps.

Last I checked I spoke in english and proper english at that. Everyone I have been chatting with about this issue understands my reply very easily so why is it only YOU cannot understand it? Maybe simply because you do not want to understand it and by saying you don't understand means you can be right. Well that is fine you can be the only one that is right and I guess everyone else is wrong. Thanks for your expertese on the matter.

CagneyDog
09-19-2005, 12:04 AM
Whether he is in the car or alone at home either way he is all alone by himself so whether they are social animals or not is farily useless.

Whatever, I know my dog very well, and I love him and I only want the best for him. So yes, I do no best. I know what is best for MY dog and since you have never seen/met him you don't.

kittycats_delight
09-19-2005, 12:12 AM
OK dear. You know what is best no other person has a clue. All the animal experts are wrong and you are right because he is your dog. Well no matter. It is completely useless arguing with someone who believes they are always right. Arguement finished. You can reply and say all you wish. I am done. We all know what is the proper thing to do and what is proven to be better for the animal. Finished. I will not reply again and argue with some that thinks they are right no matter what.

CagneyDog
09-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by kittycats_delight
OK dear. You know what is best no other person has a clue. All the animal experts are wrong and you are right because he is your dog. Well no matter. It is completely useless arguing with someone who believes they are always right. Arguement finished. You can reply and say all you wish. I am done. We all know what is the proper thing to do and what is proven to be better for the animal. Finished. I will not reply again and argue with some that thinks they are right no matter what.

Okay "dear"

I dont think im always right, but in this case I find it hard to believe that you would know what is best for my dog.


Since when are you the animal expert?

Toodles.

SANDY FROST
09-19-2005, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by CagneyDog
Why is it so awful!?
Why do you want to cook your dog? Have you a desire see your dog as a hot dog. When I had a dog she rode with me but that is all we did we went for a ride. I never left her alone in a car.
The only reason I sugguested to the customer to leave her window rolled 1/2 way is if I said never leave your dog in a car. It is not my place but at least aI suggested something a little better so her dog would not get hit in the parking lot. The sad part she wasn't all that upset she got out. My pets are my kids. Heck I'd be upset. But that is just me. I had 2 Golden Retreivers. One lived to br 15 1/2 and the other not quite 10, she had bad allergies and was getting worse. I took her to a specialist and their was nothing else he could do. Please don't leave your dog alone in the car. Can't you have somebody stay in the car with your dog?
Sandy Frost
:confused:

Den Anne Pen
09-19-2005, 01:05 AM
I agree with everyone on NOT leaving your dogs or any animal in the car. There's not reason for it The makeup or whatever can wait.

How you would like to be in a car with the locks broken and there you where stuck and you could'nt much air at all your heartbeats getting faster and you can't find the person with the keys. Does that really sound comfortable to you ??

IT sure the heck does'nt to me.:mad: :mad: :mad:

Vette
09-19-2005, 04:26 AM
Glad you managed to alreat the owner of the dog before the dog got smooshed in the road. :eek:

buttercup132
09-19-2005, 06:49 AM
if its cold out and you just have to rn in and out of the grocery store its fine but not for a long period of time, hot or cold, but i dont understand why you guys are getting mad at the fact that she is gettin left in the car alone...im 15 and i stay in the car by my self all the time especially when my mum goes to the boring grocery store, but unlike dogs we can choose to get in and out of the car...

Daisy and Delilah
09-19-2005, 07:48 AM
As Kay said, here in Florida we never leave a dog in the car due to the heat factor. Our news people are constantly warning us of the dangers. Dogs can't sweat like humans so their body temperature rises very quickly. They can die in a short time. Heat builds in their bodies because it has no where to go. The dog literally cooks and needless to say, this is completely inhumane and unnecessary. Depending on where you live, the climate may be considerably cooler and the dog would be safer in the car than dogs living here. I personally would be afraid someone would harm the dog when I wasn't there to supervise. Remember, we have some very sick people among us. You never know what might happen. Perhaps Cagney is content to stay in the car rather than being at home but I live with the philosophy that my girls are usually better off in the familiar surroundings of their house. It's climate controlled, comfortable, and most importantly, completely safe. Just my opinion.

gemini9961
09-19-2005, 08:14 AM
I have on numerous occasions left my dogs in the car with the A/C on, windows up and car locked. I always carry a spare key with me in case I have to run in somewhere and I have to leave them in the car. They are not in there for hours so don't think that. I put the sun shade up in the windshield to keep more sun out and my windows are tinted. I would never leave them in a car unlocked with no A/C on, but with the A/C on and the car locked, I see no problem with it. Like I said it's only so I can run a few errands and never for more than 15 minutes. They have never had a problem in there, they are laying in the front seat when I come back curled up.

IRescue452
09-19-2005, 08:45 AM
I was one of those kids that was told to wait in the car a lot. I remember in the summer we were so hot we had to open the doors and sit half outside to get air. Somebody could have easily kidnapped us. I also remember those damn child locks that kept us from getting air. We boiled. And if we stayed in the car in winter we either had to find a blanket, the one that was supposed to stay in the car but was usually in the trunk, or we had to curl up and try not to freeze. I imagine that dogs feel the same way.
Cagneydog mentions that the dog "enjoys" watching people. Maybe he's just seeing if any of those people are his owners trying to get him out of this predicament. And sleeping in the car is enjoyment for a dog? or is it just that he gave up and is trying not to get too hot. I've seen dogs pulled from cars unconscious because of the heat. The owners or people who find the dog have to tap on the windows to see if its sleeping.

SANDY FROST
09-19-2005, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Vette
Glad you managed to alreat the owner of the dog before the dog got smooshed in the road. :eek:
Oh yes I was very happy about that.
Sandy Frost:)

petslover
09-19-2005, 09:24 AM
I don't see the big deal either if it is done properly. We lock the doors with the air conditioner going too. I wouldn't do it if I was going shopping for a long period of time, but if its a errand that doesn't take long. I don't see the big deal in it.

I believe that CagneyDog does whats best for her dog. She knows what her dog likes/dislikes. I don't think she would take the dog if she believed it was in any harm at all.

SANDY FROST
09-19-2005, 09:35 AM
Another time aI saved a dogs life. The owners window was broken so the dog's leash was attached to the stick shift. I see the beagle jump out the window and chokeing. I pushed the dog back in the car. Acouple of months later the owner of the dog comes in the store with his dog. The dog is some animal assit or something like that,well anyway the dog can legally go in stores now. Well anyway he thanked me again and his dog did too. Excuse tears are rooling down my eyes.
Sandy Frost

ParNone
09-19-2005, 10:13 AM
Personally I don't believe in absolutes on this subject. There are situations where I leave my dogs in the car alone and they are not sweltering in a hot car and are in fact quite happy to be there.

After Maddie died, Murph didn't like being left alone at home. So when I took Oz to agility class, I took Murph too. It was at night and the car was quite comfortable. He wasn't allowed in class, so he had to stay in the car. He'd watch us for about 5 mins, then lay down and snooze the rest of the time. When we got back to the car, he got all of Oz's left over hot dog from class. Before the next class, I said "Murph, you wanna go to agility?" and he went nutz running back and forth to the door, spinning, so excited to go. Hummmm, not really the behavior of a dog that hated going.

I've made many long distance trips in the dead of summer, alone with the dogs. I don't know about y'all, but I can't go 14 hours without going to the bathroom. I bring a spare set of keys, lock the dogs in the car with it running and the a/c going. After I finish pottying, I let them out to walk around too. Near as I can tell, the pit stops are one of their favorite parts of the trip.

My Mom was staying with me for a week and one night she decided she wanted some Ice Cream and wanted me to go to the store for it. I was already dressed for bed, so I didn't want to go that late for Ice Cream. I figured that's something frivilous enough to wait 'til the next day. She was afraid to go at night by herself, but really wanted that Ice Cream. So I said, "Well you can take Oz with ya". She decided that sounded like a really good plan.

I told him, he was going with Mom to the store, so to watch out for her, for me. Normally he'd whine if he was forced to go somewhere without me, but he knew he had a job to do. He trotted along happily after Mom and jumped in the car. She said, he watched her all the way into the store and all the way back to the car. He didn't whine or bark, just watched. She also said there was a couple of men hanging out in the parking lot that she normally would have been quite wary of, but not with Oz on the job. She knew if they laid a hand on her, he'd make enough noise to wake the dead. Ah that Oz, he loves when you give him an important job to do.

So those are few examples. I just don't believe in trying to live life 100% safe, because the reality is, that's an illusion. You leave your dog at home to be safe, so somebody doesn't slip'em a poisoned hot dog and the house burns down with them in it. Just can't predict life, so might as well live it to the fullest.

Par...

CagneyDog
09-19-2005, 10:21 AM
I don't know how many times I need to netion that it doesn't get hot here, even in the summer really. I would never do anything to harm him

caseysmom
09-19-2005, 11:26 AM
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?

luvofallhorses
09-19-2005, 11:28 AM
As Kay said, here in Florida we never leave a dog in the car due to the heat factor. Our news people are constantly warning us of the dangers. Dogs can't sweat like humans so their body temperature rises very quickly. They can die in a short time. Heat builds in their bodies because it has no where to go. The dog literally cooks and needless to say, this is completely inhumane and unnecessary. Depending on where you live, the climate may be considerably cooler and the dog would be safer in the car than dogs living here. I personally would be afraid someone would harm the dog when I wasn't there to supervise. Remember, we have some very sick people among us. You never know what might happen. Perhaps Cagney is content to stay in the car rather than being at home but I live with the philosophy that my girls are usually better off in the familiar surroundings of their house. It's climate controlled, comfortable, and most importantly, completely safe. Just my opinion.

I agree 100%.

elizabethann
09-19-2005, 11:37 AM
Fenway gets left in the car with the windows down about 1/4 of the way. He doesn't get left in the car when it's hot out (like, June, July, August and sometimes September). And, I will leave him in the car only if I can see him from where I'm going (may it be the corner store, bank or restaurant). We had a woman who left her Schnauzer in the car and somebody stole the car AND the dog. The dog was found in Mass. safe and sound. She was lucky her dog was found. Fenway stays home on hot days and hangs out by the A/C.

Sandy Frost, I'm so glad that dog was okay. You're a life saver!

Daisy and Delilah
09-19-2005, 11:42 AM
I agree, there are really no absolutes on this subject. Cagneydog: I don't know where you live and I'm certainly not a climate expert on different parts of the country. I was just giving the info I know and hear about every day here in Florida. There are many ways to address this issue but most importantly, we all have our pet's best interest at heart at all times. I'm quite sure that you love Cagney very much and you know what's best for him. I don't think anyone is trying to bash you here. Everyone is merely stating their opinion. I can definitely see that different parts of the country would handle this situation in different ways. We're just a diversified group, offering our thoughts in the matter. Please don't let this upset you anymore. I don't like to see anyone upset on this board. We all try to be friends here but there will always be different views on most anything. That's what makes the world interesting:)

gemini9961
09-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by caseysmom
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?

Yes, the key has to be in there. I carry a spare key so I can lock the doors and leave the A/C on with them in there. Carrying 2 keys also can save you if you lock your keys in the car. People can steal cars even with the keys not in there so really, key or no key, if someone wants the car bad enough they will take it.

ParNone
09-19-2005, 11:57 AM
caseysmom writes:

Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?
I have an extra set of keys and lock the car. I'm thinking between breaking the window, setting off the alarm and Oz or Gull letting loose their sonic boom barks, the chances are good, with that much attention focused on the car, the robber will give up.

Actually I'm assuming with a dog the size of Oz or Gull in the car in the first place, most robbers are going to look for an easier target. They've no way of knowing, if they're friendly or not.

Par...

K9soul
09-19-2005, 12:06 PM
I didn't closely read every last post and reply in this thread, but it seems to me that some are jumping to conclusions with Cagneydog's situation. I'm sure she would never leave her boy in a hot car while she went in somewhere. I also agree with Par about it depending on the situation. I say this because I was one of those "evil" people who used to take Cody everywhere with me and he'd stay in the car when I ran into the store for something etc. ;) This was only in the fall and winter, and never in the summer. The doors were locked and windows up with a crack left open for a bit of fresh air even if it was quite cold out (cold didn't bother him, he had quite a coat). He absolutely loved going with me whether he got to come out of the car with me or not. I would leave him for up to 20 minutes or so (of course I never took him if it was to be a LONG absence), and he'd doze off and sleep or watch people walking to and from their cars.

I didn't take Willie because he didn't enjoy it. I don't take the T's unless they are coming out with me because I know they'd be anxious to get left. But Cody was a different dog, different personality, and I knew him enough to know he really loved going even if he got left for short periods of time.

wolf_Q
09-19-2005, 12:28 PM
Goodness I don't see why this thread needed to turn into an argument.

Nebo has been left alone in a car. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Now if you all want to think I'm a horrible doggy mom, go ahead, because I know I'm not. ;)

When he's been on our vacations in the summer at the national parks and such where he couldn't go on the trails we had to leave him in the car. But it was very hot so I would never ever let him stay alone in a hot car...one person (we'd take turns) would stay in the car with him, windows down, AC on if it got really hot, etc.

In the winter (trust me it gets very cold here) I take him with me occasionally if I'm going to only be in the store for a couple of minutes (gas station, post office) and I park where I can see him from inside of the store (post office here has big windows you can look through the entire time you're in line). He does not get anxious or upset in the car, he just lays down and goes to sleep. My friend and I once ate lunch in a restaurant on our way to the dog park...left Cisco and Nebo in the car. But we had a big bowl of water for them and we sat where we could look out and check on them. Sydney and Reggie bark their fool heads off (which is why I rarely take them) if left in the car I don't think anyone would want to come near the car to steal it with them in it (not to mention I have an old ugly car anyway!)

I'm absolutely paranoid about my dog, he is my baby and I wouldn't want anything to happen to him, so no I would never leave him alone in a car on a hot day (I HATE it when I see people do that!), alone for a long period of time where I couldn't see to check on him (I know people who have left their dogs in cars for an entire movie, I would never do that), but I think it's *ok* for *some* situations like I said above.

wolf_Q
09-19-2005, 12:45 PM
No I don't know what Cagneydog's idea of "not too hot" is and I agree it can get extremely hot (many degrees higher than the temp outside) in a car but I think there are nicer ways to make a post.

ParNone
09-19-2005, 01:13 PM
wow this has turned into quite the interesting topic. I'm just not quite sure why there's this automatic assumption that Dog alone in car = Dog alone in car in blazing hot sun... Or... Dog left alone in house = safety and Dog left alone in car = tragedy.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the A/C in your house could break or the heater could malfunction or somebody could break in while you're out, or somebody could toss something poisonous in your back yard.

Par...

ParNone
09-19-2005, 01:22 PM
As someone who works for a living, my dogs are home alone a lot longer then 1 hour during the day. I also live in an extremely hot part of the country. If the A/C broke, there'd be no guarantee that they'd survive until I got home.

Par...

ramanth
09-19-2005, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by caseysmom
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?
I have two car keys.

JenBKR
09-19-2005, 01:44 PM
Wow, I came in at a bad time...I'll put my two cents in anyway. I think it depends on climate and how long you are going to be. I've left Roscoe in the car on a few occasions while I ran into the gas station to get a coffee, but I can pretty much see him the whole time. I do think it's bad to leave the window down the whole way, my neighbor told me her dog jumped out the window at a store and ran away :(

LKPike
09-19-2005, 01:56 PM
Frankie and Jillian have stayed alone in the car before for up to 30 minutes but usually its only 10 or less. and only when the weathers been 63 to 75, with the windows rolled down.

don't think the little argument with cagney dog is correct. she said she only does it when its not hot. just like me, but since nobody can be an individual here:

nooo don't leave the dog in the car at any time for any reason!

elizabethann
09-19-2005, 02:00 PM
I wonder when Sandy Frost posted this thread, she thought she'd receive all of these unique responses?

;)

Lobodeb
09-19-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by caseysmom
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?

No, the key doesn't have to be in. I will bring Maggy with me to run errands, but I have a remote starter.

What I do, is I turn the AC on, turn off the car. Then as soon as I close the door, I use the remote starter to leave the car running. The doors are locked, AC going. I have 15 minutes to get in, do what I have to do before the car automatically shuts off. No one can take off with my car because if you touch the brake pedal without the key in the ignition, the engine cuts off. That point is moot however as I'm more worried about someone stealing Maggy than my car. The car can be replaced. That being said, I will only run errands, not full out shopping.

cali
09-19-2005, 02:44 PM
my dogs stay in the care all the time as long as its not to hot, we just crack the windows, when there are flyball tournys you pretty much have to eat out, guess what? the dogs cant stay at the hotel! the windows are cracked and 12-13 dogs are left in vans while we go in a restraunt to eat, windows are cracked and we always park in the shade no matter how far that is from the restraunt, its not that horrable lol and yes as a young child I have been left in the care alone, all the time actually, I still do, I love staying in the car and waiting always have.

caseysmom
09-19-2005, 03:05 PM
I would just think that a running car would be really tempting to a car thief.

gemini9961
09-19-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by caseysmom
I would just think that a running car would be really tempting to a car thief.

A running car with dogs in there who may not be too friendly. Thief might want to think twice about this car thieving venture. :)

caseysmom
09-19-2005, 03:14 PM
Maybe other dogs but not mine!

gemini9961
09-19-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by caseysmom
Maybe other dogs but not mine!

:D Would they let the thief take the car if say the theif gave them treats? :D

I personally have never had a problem leaving the car running with the dogs in there and will continue to do so. My windows are tinted so it is a little hard to see in there, for all anyone else knows there might be a person in there with the dogs. Each situation most certainly has its own circumstances which must be taken into account. If I ever once felt it was unsafe for me to leave the dogs in there, believe me I wouldn't.

lv4dogs
09-19-2005, 03:32 PM
I leave my dog(s) in my vehicles sometimes. Of course I only do it if I know I will only be a few minutes even if there is a line or they are busy or whatever, like a gas station or the like.
I also have tinted windows so that helps with the heat from the sun.
I also have a/c.
And an awesome alarm. I can have the car running with the a/c with no keys in it. And yes I have an automatic start that only keeps the car running for 10 minutes but my alarm also allows me to double click it, which the car will stay running with the air on for as long as I'd like. Even though I have a/c I still don't leave them in the car when its really hot out, just for any reason it quits on me.

If for any reason I feel even with the precautions I take it is still unsafe then I will not do it.
I figure you take chances at EVERYTHING you do. You never know when anything can happen. Why live your life in a shell? Enjoy it, live it up.

sammy101
09-19-2005, 03:58 PM
Mine have never stayed in the car alone.Someone stays in the car with them,with the a/c on.I refuse to leave them alone.I'll only leave them if were filling up the gas tank or something like that.
Its illegal here to leave your dog in the car in the summer.It get's so hot here,and many animals have died from people leaving their dogs in the car. You have your dog taken away if its left in the car,and if someone complains about it.

PJ's Mom
09-19-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by sammy101
You have your dog taken away if its left in the car,and if someone complains about it.

Sounds like a great law to me! :)

dogzr#1
09-19-2005, 05:26 PM
I think that you could leave a dog in the car for around 10min if it isn't that hot out. When we take our dogs one person stays in the car so that they still have the air condition on but we know that the car won't get stolen. IMO if it is 100+ outside then it could be 130+ in the car. I don't think that a dog would be comfortable in the car for 5min in that heat. If it is cold outside (I mean 40 or less) then the dog should be able to stay in the car for around 30min if they are a medium size dog like a Retriever or husky. If they are small like a toy dog or something then they shouldn't be left in the car for more than 10min. Dogs have a different heat control system in their body so it might feel comfortable to us but it could be blazing to them. I just think that the dog should be left alone for more than 15min in any case. Just my opinion.


Once I saw a dog in the front seat of the car but they owner had left the AC on while they went inside to eat at a Fast food resteraunt. I think that seemed kinda nice and a little funny to see a dog in the front seat looking like it is driving. Well I hope I covered everything here.
I tried not to start an arguement but please forgive me if I did. I am still a kid who doesn't like to be proven wrong.

Monica

Lobodeb
09-19-2005, 05:56 PM
Well said!

I should add that I don't leave her in the car with any weather. I'm in Chicago (obviously) so I'm not going to leave her when it's 100+ and humid as all heck, nor am I going to leave her when it's -20. As rare as it may seem, I do tell her "no." (sometimes :o )

bckrazy
09-19-2005, 06:14 PM
I never leave Gonzo in the car, if I'm going somewhere where he can't come in, I make sure to bring along a friend so they can sit outside with him or in the car with the AC on :) Gonzo would also freak out and cry the whole time if I left him in my car.

I've been scared about leaving my pup anywhere public ever since a dog was stolen from a car with it's windows down in a nearby parking lot. The dog was never found. It's SO easy for anyone to do that if the windows are 1/2 way down and the dog is fairly small... to me, it just isn't worth it. I equate leaving a dog in a car alone to leaving a toddler in a car alone. Can you do it? yes. Is it dangerous? yes.

Leaving a dog in a car with windows up, AC on, doors completely locked and alarm on in a public parking lot is fine to me. I'm REALLY happy when I see dogs hanging out in cars with the AC blasting while their humans run inside of a store. But when people let their dogs suffer in a hot car, windows down or NOT, it isn't fun for the dogs, its deadly. Trust me, I've sat in a car when it was 80* with the windows ALL the way down, and I could not stand it after a while ~ thats me, with a much more advanced cooling system than any dog and a t-shirt and the ability to get out of the hot car. Last week, me and my sister went to this restaurant after church, and there was a truck out front with 2 Pit Bulls in the BURNING hot old metal pick-up bed with no shade, and 3 dogs in the cab!!! Seriously. The cab had it's windows cracked, and the dogs inside were barking constantly, as were the 2 in the pick-up. We went inside and told them to urgently page the people who owned the truck and the dogs, because they were in danger of dying. We were soooo pissed. We waited outside for the owner, and totally told him off >_<... "I'm just going to have a nice long sunday brunch while my dogs die of heat stroke!"

sammy101
09-19-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by PJ's Mom
Sounds like a great law to me! :)

Yeah i think it is too!:) I believe the SPCA takes them,and adopts them out.
I remember a lady in Galveston left her German Shepherd puppy,in mid-summer(HOT!),with the windows cracked.She was inside eating her lunch:rolleyes: Someone complained about the puppy and she got it taken away from her.I'm pretty sure you get fined too.I think there should be a law like that everywhere.And that includes dogs in the back of a pickup.

dogzr#1
09-19-2005, 07:33 PM
Thanks:) I think that they should make a law so that it is illegal to leave a dog unattended in a car no matter what the weather is. I know that dogs like to go for cars rides but some not all people just take them when the owner goes inside to eat lunch and leaves her poor pooch out in the car with only the windows cracked. Those are the people who should be punished:) My opinion

finn's mom
09-19-2005, 07:58 PM
I have and will leave Finn alone in the car on occassion. He loves being in the car. If I have to run errands, I'd rather take him with me than leave him alone at home. I figure it's no different than leaving your dog outside with fresh water and shade. I don't consider myself a bad pet owner for doing so, either. I park in the shade, leave the windows all down enough so that he can almost stick his head out. I think the most I've left him is fifteen or twenty minutes, if there's shade. And, he always has fresh water in the car. That's why I don't see much difference in that and leaving a dog outside for half an hour or an hour. I treat my dog well and love him more than I love most people, but, I don't see the problem with leaving them in the car for a short period of time. I've sat in my car with the ac off on really hot days with him, just reading a book or something...and, we've both been fine. If the dog is barking and screaming, or looks like he's not handling it well, I see it as a problem. Finn just stretches out in the backseat until I come outside.