Max [Archive] - Page 2

catmandu

11-26-2009, 04:32 PM

We are sorry to hear about Max , and thats as sad when Our Older Pets deterirate both mentally and physically as it is with Older Members of Our Human Family.
I have talked to My Vet on this and he says thats its more than possible that Our Cats can suffer from semility. This worries me as My Princess is 18, maybe older , Michael is 18 and Juke Joint Joseph is at least 16.
Hes recommendinng some books at the Library so I can read up on this and there are several issues of Cat Fancy that deal with this heart breaking problem.
I know that Bo Bo this year become reclusive as did My Moose and Princess had a spell where she was peeing on my bed. But shes over that now.
I have to close off the basement as thats the first place that My Older Cats want to go when they gointo hiding.
We are sending prayers for Our Dear Friend Max, and pray that you can have him in as good health as possible for as long as you can.:love:

carole

11-26-2009, 04:34 PM

My thoughts are with you and Max,Hugs to you both.

krazyaboutkatz

11-26-2009, 06:36 PM

Slick, I'm so sorry to hear this.:( I hope that Max will be able to remain as comfortable as possible and that you'll have a lot of quality time together. Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Russian Blue

11-26-2009, 07:56 PM

I'm barely on PT these days but want you to know you and Max have always been in my thoughts. Especially now.

Hugs and more hugs going out your way.

Cinder & Smoke

11-26-2009, 09:31 PM

Purrayers going aloft for Max, and You, Slick.

And we'll go Burn a Candle, too.

A thought:
Would Max tolerate a Baby Gate or two in the doorways - to limit his
travel possibilities when you're not there too supervise?

Might reduce the amount of time you spend on Hide 'n Seek looking for 'lumps'
in strange places.

Wishing you Both the Best.
;)

Link to the "pet t" Candle Group >>>

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...eng&gi=pet%20t (http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=pet%20t)

Taz_Zoee

11-26-2009, 10:43 PM

Slick, I am so sorry to hear about Max. Now that I read how he stares it helps me realize why Taz had done that before. He didn't stare out windows or in mirrors, but he would just sit or lay and stare at nothing.
I will continue to hope you can ring in the new year with your baby boy. I will hope even harder that Dr Singh can do something to help Max remain comfortable.

Hugs to you!

momoffuzzyfaces

11-27-2009, 12:19 PM

I just lit a candle for slick and max. It was my first one and I messed it up. It shows my intials ch instead of slick and max under the candle. But the thought is for them. :love:

Edwina's Secretary

11-27-2009, 12:36 PM

Thinking of you and Max my dear natal sister...

Randi

11-27-2009, 12:40 PM

Slick, you and Max are in my thoughts. I hope you will have a cuddly and good weekend! :love: I have a candle burning for you both! :love:

Gentle scritches and hugs.

ChrisH

11-27-2009, 01:19 PM

Dearest lady, both you and dear Max are in my heart & prayers. Much love, always.

slick

11-27-2009, 09:00 PM

Dear Lord, I love Pet Talk. :love::love:
Thank you so much for your love, prayers and candles. I've read each one of your heartfelt messages - LES....

Max is going in to see Dr. Singh on Saturday Dec 5th. Dr. Singh now only works on Friday mornings and Saturdays and Max is not that urgent now. There are other vets employed by Dr. Singh that I could see but I feel comfortable waiting to see him - I've been with Dr. Singh since 1997 and I love him. If, of course, Max starts an even steeper decline rapidy I won't hesitate to take him in to all night vet clinic close to my home.

Might reduce the amount of time you spend on Hide 'n Seek looking for 'lumps' in strange places. This made me laugh out loud. :D:D

Phred: I've been thinking about baby gates, especially for the kitchen. Unfortunately my apartment is an "open floor plan" so there are no hallways to block off. The second bedroom has the litterboxes (2) and I could just close the door to my bedroom to keep him out of there. The living room/dining room areas are one big room and keeping him out of there is not an option as there are no walls, if you get my drift - hard to 'splain.

I'm leaving work shortly and Lord only knows what I'll find. I can put up with the presents left for me but I've had to 'splain all this to my housecleaner and that is rather embarrassing. Thankfully, she's understanding and loves Max too.

MOFF: I think I'm ready to read the book you sent me.

Moesha

11-27-2009, 10:02 PM

Hugs to you and Max. I hope that you're able to get more quality time with your dear one.

slick

11-28-2009, 12:56 AM

I came home tonight to find 3 different puke spots. Poor boy puked up undigested dry food - 2 in my bedroom and 1 in the kitchen. Still....when I came through the door he cried and cried for his wet food and I was happy to oblige. Surprise - didn't find any "lumps" but he also has not used either litterbox all day and evening. I went looking/feeling for pee spots all over but couldn't find any. Hope I'm not missing anything. :(:(

momoffuzzyfaces

11-28-2009, 10:13 AM

Ramping up the prayers from here for you both. :love:

I hope the book will bring you comfort when the time comes. :love:

No need to be embarrassed by Max's boo boos any more than you would if he was a dear older relative living with you. :love::love:

Catty1

11-28-2009, 10:41 AM

If he puked up undigested dry food, then I suspect that there was nothing to make 'lumps' with in his dear little body.

The wet food will help with that and will rehydrate him a bit.

Hugs to you and to Max.:love:

Logan

11-28-2009, 01:10 PM

I have no excuses, just haven't been here very much, Slick, and had no idea what you were dealing with. Please know that you and Max are in my prayers. I will try to keep in better touch.
Love,
Logan, Butter, Henry, Bo and the dawgs

slick

11-30-2009, 12:06 AM

Thanks Logan, Catty and MOFF. My concern continues. Max has taken up residence behind my bed. How he gets in there is beyond me because there is only about a 6" gap on either side of the bed for him to crawl in. Speckles used to get in there in her later years so I blocked it off with cardboard. Looks like I'll have to do it again. My poor boy only ate about 1/2 of what he normally does. He's behind the bed now even though I tried to entice him out with treats. :(

krazyaboutkatz

11-30-2009, 01:56 AM

Slick, I'm so sorry to hear this.:( Is he a hard cat to pill? The reason I ask this is that maybe giving him some pepcid would help him. I don't know if your vet has ever suggested this or not. I'd start with 1/4 of a tablet in the morning and then 1/4 in the evening. This might help to settle his stomach and help him feel more comfortable. Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Barbara

11-30-2009, 02:59 AM

I am really sorry to hear this. It would worry me as well. That tendency to retire is always serious:(
Love and hugs.

Medusa

11-30-2009, 05:44 AM

I just feel so bad about this. When they hide like that, it makes me nervous as I'm sure it does you. Please know that you and Max are always on my mind because this is such a difficult path to travel alone, which you never are as long as you have PT and Medusa and the Fur Posse. We'll keep the light on for ya. Keep the faythe. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

11-30-2009, 10:02 AM

I always hold my breath when I open this thread. Prayers still on the way for you both. I lit another candle for you both too. Remember we all love you and are here for you. :love:

Catty1

11-30-2009, 10:13 AM

{{{hugs}}}:love::love:

Pinot's Mom

11-30-2009, 10:25 AM

Prayers for you both. :love:

Queen of Poop

11-30-2009, 10:27 AM

Thinking of you and Max today, as everyday.

katladyd

11-30-2009, 10:54 AM

Prayers are being sent for you and Max.:love:

kb2yjx

11-30-2009, 01:39 PM

A candle will be lit for you and Max.....ASAP....

Prairie Purrs

11-30-2009, 01:48 PM

Hoping for a better day for Max--and for you--today.

Taz_Zoee

11-30-2009, 02:43 PM

Just want you to know I think of you and Max each and every day.

Hugs!!

Randi

12-01-2009, 09:03 AM

More positive thoughts to Max from me, too. :love:

Hang in there, boy!

carole

12-01-2009, 01:13 PM

Hang on in there Max YOU CAN DO IT , and Slick don't give up hope just yet, you and I are on the same rollercoaster ride right now with our kitties, and believe it or not my Ash has bounced back today, he is not as smelly and eating well and improved , i can tell he is feeling better.

Max may well bounce back yet,fingers and all paws crossed that he will,thinking of you daily and hoping for the best.

slick

12-04-2009, 11:34 PM

Max has been eating OK but tonight I came home to a big blob of diarrhea in the corner of the living room right behind a huge plant that I have. I never would have seen it if I hadn't of moved the plant to water it. Funny that I didn't smell it either.

He's not eating as much either and he won't touch any treats. At night he sleeps behind the bed and in the daytime when I leave for work, he's behind the bed and doesn't come out to see me off. When I get home from work he comes out from behind the bed (I assume he's been there all day) and talks to me, wanting wet food.

We have a whitecoat appointment on Saturday at 10:30. I'm not sure about blood work, but for sure I want an xray on his right hip. He favours that leg and hobbles on it.

He no longer is lap fungus and neither does he lay under the tree anymore. I guess the novelty has worn off. All he wants to do is get behind the bed - which isn't an entirely bad thing. Each time he crawls out of there he brings me more presents of dust bunnies. Who needs a house cleaner???

Mary (Medusa): Max loves a little bowl with ice water in it. Reminds me of you and dear Puddy, although Max doesn't have anything wrong with his tongue, but he does like to lick the ice cubes.

krazyaboutkatz

12-05-2009, 01:35 AM

I'm sorry to hear that he had diarrhea and that he's still hiding behind the bed.:( I hope that everything will go well at the vet tomorrow. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way.

Medusa

12-05-2009, 06:17 AM

Oh Max, sweet boy, I'm so sorry that you still have the sickies. I want so much for you to feel better and go back to being your old self again. We'll just have to pump up the volume on the prayers, that's all there is to it. I'm sure Mom could use a good dose of it, too. In the meantime, lick your ice cubes, clean under the bed for Mom and know that the two of you are always in my thoughts and prayers every single day. (((HUGS))) to Mom and soft, gentle pets to you, Max. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-05-2009, 10:27 AM

Prayers on the way for you and Sir Max both! Off to light another candle. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-05-2009, 08:11 PM

Just thinking of you and precious Max. Hope the vet was able to help you both feel better. :love:

gini

12-06-2009, 10:31 AM

I hope I will get to talk to you later today. I am off to light some candles for you and Max:love:

Catty1

12-06-2009, 10:38 AM

Prayers for you and Max.:love::love::love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-06-2009, 12:05 PM

Prayers flying from me for you both! :love:

katladyd

12-06-2009, 02:09 PM

I am sending prayers for both Max and Slick up to The Big Guy.:love:

Queen of Poop

12-06-2009, 02:24 PM

Saying prayers every day. Came today to check for an update after the vet yesterday. Hoping and praying the vet had a good solution to Max's issues.

kb2yjx

12-06-2009, 08:57 PM

Prayers continue....

krazyaboutkatz

12-06-2009, 11:54 PM

Slick, I hope that everything went well yesterday. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent Max's way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

gini

12-07-2009, 11:20 AM

Prayers and much :love::love: being sent your way!

Killearn Kitties

12-07-2009, 11:24 AM

and some more :love::love::love:

Randi

12-07-2009, 11:32 AM

I hope all is OK with Max, and you! Slow down and try get some cuddle time in - if he will allow it. :love: :love:

Sending lots of good thoughts.

slick

12-07-2009, 01:01 PM

I had a busy weekend both days and when I was home I spent every possible moment with my baby. Max is still with me but for how long I don't know. Forgive me Gini, I just didn't/don't feel like talking....:(:(
Sorry this is so short but I'm at work. Will update at the end of today before I leave to go home.

gini

12-07-2009, 01:10 PM

I am just relieved to hear from you and I fully understand!

You know that you and Max are dearly loved, dear friend.:love:

And I know that holds true for all Pet Talkers too.:love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Yes, dear friend, we all understand what you are going through right now. This is the hard part of loving an animal. Another candle has been lit for Max and you. Prayers will continue for you both. :love::love:

Taz_Zoee

12-07-2009, 02:08 PM

I know only too well how you are feeling right now. I am typing this through tears.

Hugs to you and Max.

catmandu

12-07-2009, 04:31 PM

I know how you feel as Bo Bo got weaker and weaker , and My Vet said that there was nothing he could do except to prescribe medications to help her.
Its so sad and depressing watching an old Friend slowly getting older and knowing thats theres nothing you can do,
Prayers are coming for You and Max from All Of Us at The Found Cat Hotel,and Moose the MagnfiCat is with Max to help comfort an Old Friend.
:love::love::love:

katladyd

12-07-2009, 05:20 PM

I am sending more prayers for both you and Max. Feel better soon!:love:

slick

12-07-2009, 07:20 PM

I have a few minutes now for an complete update.
First of all, thank you for all your prayers and candles. I know that there are a few other kitties on board here who need many more candles so I appreciate you taking the time to say a word for my Max.

I took him in mainly because he was/is hobbling on his back legs and he looked like he might be in pain.

Max has lost more weight. He weighs just under 5 lbs now. When Dr. Singh first felt his back end, he mentioned that he could feel some major swelling in both his knees and he made me feel it too. It felt like a hard lump on both sides. Anyway Dr. Singh said it could perhaps be a tumor (cancer of the bone) - that alone scared me silly. He said I would have to leave Max there for a few hours while the xrays were taken. Max had to be sedated to get the xray taken, then another injection to wake him up. I didn't ask for blood tests because I already know that it would come back as CRF. When I showed up to collect him a couple of hours later Dr. Singh showed me the xray. Good news is no tumor - bad news is very extreme arthritis and Max has been in pain for a while now. :( I'm beating myself up about this. I've noticed it but didn't take him in right away.:(:(

So what do we do about it? Max received a steroid shot (I have the name of it at home - it's not cortisone) and he needs to get another shot once a week for the next 4 weeks and if it helps, then he will receive an injection once a month. In addition, I am to increase the Metacam to 4 drops in his wet food every day. Needless to say Max's savings account and my chequing account are depleted right now. Thank goodness for a great line of credit.

When Max came home, he dived into his dry food and that was good to see, but at night he only eats 1/2 of what he used to.:(

We have a routine in the evenings now. Now that it is cold outside, I wear my big fluffy LL Bean housecoat that is now two sizes too big. I wrap it around me and when I'm finished my evening chores (sounds like I'm on a farm :rolleyes:) and Max has had a couple of helpings of wet food, I sit down on the couch and Max comes to sit on my lap. He hasn't done that for a while now but last night he decided to see of my lap was just as cozy. He stayed there quietly napping for a couple of hours. I dared not move. I had the remote beside me and I had already peed (:D) so we both were comfortable. I snuggled him and told him that I wanted him to tell me when he is ready to go. I said that I would be there until the end and that I'm counting on him staying with me through the Christmas season. I told him how much I loved him and that I was very sorry that I didn't take him in before then. I was crying buckets of tears and it's so hard to fathom that indeed, this is more than likely his last Christmas with me. LES :(:(

He still spends most of his time behind the bed. He sleeps there at night and in the morning when I get up he's still there and doesn't come out until his dinner bell goes off around 6pm. He retreats back behind the bed usually around 10pm. When he's out in the evening I put out another bowl of ice water and he loves to lick the ice cubes.

Also, every time I leave the house I have to close the en suite bathroom door. I have a soaker tub with high sides and he can jump in, but can't jump back out again so he's stuck. After my shower this morning I watched him struggle to get in (I helped him) and he was licking up the water.

So that's the news and to all my friends who have tried to contact me, please accept my apology. Those of you know know me best, know that I "shut down" at a time like this. I'm sorry but that's just me.

:love::love:

Edit: forgot to add that Max has had the runs everyday for the last 4 days and he never makes the litterbox. He leaves presents for me in his selected corner - whichever corner he picks for that day. I think this is something that I'll have to put up with from now on.

Edit: I'm at home and the name of the injection is Cartrophen. I'll have to google that.

momoffuzzyfaces

12-07-2009, 07:28 PM

Poor Max. Arthritis is hard to deal with. The cold weather is probably making it worse right now too. I know it does mine. Cats are good at hiding pain. Leonardo had arthritis too and I didn't know until the very end, how bad it was. He never let on he was in any pain.

Prayers and candles will continue for you both. We are here if you need us. :love::love:

Catty1

12-07-2009, 10:54 PM

Prayers that the metacam and the shot will ease his pain...perhaps make it easier for him to reach his litterbox.

Wonder if it would help to have an extra one around somewhere.

HUGS to you, Vicki...please give Max many gentle lovings from me. :love::love::love:

krazyaboutkatz

12-08-2009, 01:39 AM

Slick, You probably already know this but animals,especially cats, hide their pain very well. I sure hope that the shots and Metacam will help make Max more comfortable. Cherish all of the time that you have with him. I'm sure he'll let you know when it's time to let him go. It's so hard watching our furkids get older. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

carole

12-08-2009, 02:25 AM

Yes try not to beat yourself up about it, easier said than done, but as everyone has said cats are very good at hiding their pain,also unlike us humans they don't think about it.
A good idea would be to get a kitty electric blanket if you can, i have two of them, and they are great for cats with arthritis, being a sufferer myself i know that warmth is a top priority and is really helpful.

I am really sorry to read about Max,enjoy your boy as much as possible while he is still with you,now he had meds I am sure he will be much happier.

Love and Hugs to you both.

Queen of Poop

12-08-2009, 05:40 AM

That Cartrophen shot is what gave me more time with Sasha my dogger. Without it I would have lost her much sooner. It is wonderful stuff. Love up that Max boy as much as you can. And give him a little kiss from me.

ChrisH

12-08-2009, 05:58 AM

Dearest Vickie, my heart is heavy for you and your dear boy. :( Prayers continuing and sending much, much love out to you both. {{hugs}}

Medusa

12-08-2009, 07:06 AM

Vickie, now it's my turn to remind you not to beat yourself up over Max as you did w/me and Yodie. We would never purposely neglect or harm our beloved furkids in any way but sometimes we just overlook things; overlook, not refuse to see; there's a big difference. Max knows how much your love him or he wouldn't want his snuggle time w/you; otherwise, he'd avoid you like the plague.

Max's story does remind me so much of what I experienced w/Puddy, especially the ice cubes and wanting to be in the tub. I bought little steps for Puddy so that she could get into the sink, which is where she wanted to be first before the tub, but she had the same problem as Max: she could get in but not out. If Max does have burning tongue syndrome as Puddy did, the ice cubes will be a big help plus she loved Fudgsicles! And I loved holding them for her and watching her slurp them up so you might try something like that w/Max. There isn't enough chocolate in them to do him any harm. Or maybe popsicles.

This is such a precious time, Vickie. We don't want them to suffer and yet we want to have them w/us for as long as possible. It's an honor to make the journey w/them even though we must leave them at the gate to the Bridge. Hopefully, you won't have to make the decision as to when that will be; Max may make it on his own but you'll be there w/him, I know. Enjoy every precious moment and know that the Fur Posse and I and all of PT are w/you, praying every step of the way. (((HUGS))) and scritchies. :love: :)

P.S. There's no shame in wanting to be alone and sort of shutting down during this time. I'm the same way. There's no offense meant or taken. Everyone is different and we all respect that.

gini

12-08-2009, 10:13 AM

I wish that I could take your pain and Max's away from you. :love:

Randi

12-08-2009, 10:40 AM

Slick, first of all, don't beat yourself up about finding out Max has arthritis, you know how good cats are hiding pain. I really hope the Cartrophen will help him feel better - from what QoP says, it sounds promising. :)

I loved to hear he's back snuggling with you in the evenings, that must feel so good! :love:

I was thinking... do you know about those flat pillows you can put in the microwave? They keep the heat for hours. Perhaps you could get one of those he could lay on when you're out. It might help the pain. :)

Will e-mail you later.

((((hugs))) and gente scritches to Max. :love:

Pinot's Mom

12-08-2009, 11:36 AM

I was thinking... do you know about those flat pillows you can put in the microwave? They keep the heat for hours. Perhaps you could get one of those he could lay on when you're out. It might help the pain. :)

That sounds like a really good idea; warmth helps so much.

I'm so sorry about the journey you're taking with Max; many of us have done it and it rips your heart out. The tub reminded me of my own journey with my RB kitty Jamara; up to her last day, she got up on the counter in our bathroom to get water from the faucet. That memory is very tough for me.

Our hearts are with you, no matter whether you can respond or not, this community of people (and pets) will be there in spirit taking that journey with you and Max. Give Max a kiss for me, hugs to you, treasure this time with Max and know we're there.:love:

Maggie

Barbara

12-08-2009, 11:42 AM

Sending warm thoughts and lots of love. I think the micromaveable pillow sounds great. Warmth is good for human arthritic bones- so why not for sweet Max.
Keeping paws crossed that the steroids give Max a little more life quality.

phesina

12-08-2009, 04:49 PM

To Max and Vickie, our love and prayers and a candle: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=9729450

Hugs and purrs to you both as you treasure your time together loving each other so much,
Pat and cats

Moesha

12-08-2009, 06:20 PM

My heart is hurting for you. I do hope you can enjoy as many nice moments with dear Max as possible. We can only do our very best for our loved ones. Please be assured that you are doing that for Max. We are human after all.

Tubby & Peanut's Mom

12-09-2009, 09:42 PM

I know that there are a few other kitties on board here who need many more candles so I appreciate you taking the time to say a word for my Max.
Dear Slick, always worrying more about others.....but it's your turn now, sweetie. You and Max are just as important here on PT as anyone else is, if not more so, so just accept the thoughts, prayers and candles. You both deserve them....and more.

It's hard to hear Max is still declining, but I'm SO glad he has started snuggling on your lap again. I'm sure that is very therapeutic for both of you.

What I did for Tubby in his last few days was put a heating pad down, but I put a blanket directly on top of it, then his little fleece "carpet condom" on top of the blanket. That way I know he couldn't be burned by the heat of the heating pad. He loved that spot and spent 90% of his last month right there.

I hope the meds help ease his arthritis. I know you will make him as comfortable as you possibly can, and we all know you would do whatever you possibly can for him, so don't beat yourself up and feel guilty, just love him, love him, love him and love him. He knows.....

{{{hugs}}}

zippy-kat

12-11-2009, 04:27 PM

Continued prayers for you and Max. I'm sorry I haven't been on PT/checked the thread for awhile. You two are always in my thoughts. :love:

slick

12-17-2009, 01:51 AM

All I can say is that he's hanging in there. He still eats but his output is a concern for me. When I come home from work I have to check in every corner to see if he's left any presents for me. He never poos in the litterbox anymore.

Tonight when I came home I noticed that the litterbox had not been used (for pee) all day and that is very unusual. I'm hoping that he isn't peeing somewhere else although I've been snooping around for about 30 min and have not smelled/smelt??? anything.

He is losing control over his back end. It's a struggle now for him to get on the coffee table. I help him jump whenever I can.

He went for his 2nd steroid shot last Saturday and I'm continuing putting 4-5 drops of Metacam in his wet food at night. So far, I have not seen any change but it could be too soon. Dr. Singh says that if it doesn't do any good then there is nothing else he can do for him.

Every night when I settle down in front of the TV I have a special bowl of water with ice cubes in it. He love to lick it. When he was at the vet's last weekend, I had him check his mouth and there is no evidence of swelling or sores which is good.

Debbie and others: Thanks for the suggestion of the heating pad. I have that on my list of things to purchase this weekend.

I'm afraid I'm not dealing with this very well. The thought of being "petless" doesn't sit well with me.

krazyaboutkatz

12-17-2009, 01:58 AM

Slick, I'm so sorry to hear that Max still isn't doing well.:( Hopefully a heating pad will help him feel more comfortable. Please know that I'm thinking of you both and he continues to remain in my thoughts and prayers. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Medusa

12-17-2009, 06:09 AM

Oh Slick, this gives me such heartache. I can feel your pain right through the monitor. I wish I could do something besides type a few words. Watching our pets age or not improve from an illness is the worst. My prayers are always w/you and sweet Max. Keep the faythe. :love:

Queen of Poop

12-17-2009, 07:44 AM

The cartrophen took a bit of time to work on Sasha, be patient. When it did work it was like a miracle. I pray that Max will realize the same relief/relife that Sasha did. Hugs for your both.

kb2yjx

12-17-2009, 08:15 AM

Prayers for Max and YOU!!!

Pinot's Mom

12-17-2009, 08:22 AM

All I can do is send prayers and {{{{{hugs}}}}} for both of you from here. I'm sorry I can't do more for your pain.:love:

Barbara

12-17-2009, 08:26 AM

Slick I am so sorry to hear about Max. I would also be worried about the peeing as kidney kitties pee a lot. I am surprised to see how many pee-cakes Filou produces per day.
Of course if he loses weight that really makes it difficult for him to jump. I can see it in Filou who instead of jumping first to the table then at your shoulder now climbs you as if you were a tree.
Poor little boy.
And while if the worst happens you should not think of staying petless there is still only one Max. As there was only one Tigris. :(

Randi

12-17-2009, 08:29 AM

Dear Slick, you and Max are on my mind and I will keep sending positive thoughts that the Metacam will work so he can get better. :)

Does the litterbox have a high edge? Perhaps he has problems getting over it? But what can you do about that? :(

I searched for the heating pad John's niece brought along one Christmas, the size and shape are very similar to this, and it goes in the microwave. The one on this picture looks awful, but it probably does the job.

Big hugs to you - and kisses to Max. :love:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microwavable-Corn-Heating-Pad-Compress-Hot-Cold-Organic_W0QQitemZ360199471087QQcmdZViewItemQQssPag eNameZRSS:B:SRCH:US:101

Prairie Purrs

12-17-2009, 08:55 AM

Here's hoping that the meds will kick in and help Max feel better very soon.

Cataholic

12-17-2009, 10:23 AM

I am so sorry to hear this, and that I did not know of it earlier. Prayers being sent up that Max will respond to the medicine. Prayers, also, that the time any of us have here on earth is spent in such a loving environment that houses Max.

carole

12-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Oh Slick i am so sorry to be reading your update, i can only hope what time you have left with Max will be as best as it can be,you have to take comfort in knowing he has had a wonderful life with you, and you have given the best chance possible, just keep in mind his comfort,we want to hang on to them so desperately.
I am not so certain about the peeing a lot with kidney cats, my kitty is a kidney cat and he does not pee hardly at all,he can go all night long before i need to let him out in the morning and he does not use a litter box, however i told my vet and he said that was a good sign really,so perhaps with Ash he has not reached that stage yet, here's hoping.

I really feel for you at this time, it is sad and stressful and distressing for you, you have my utmost empathy,my love and my hopes that Max can hang on in there, you and Max will be in my daily thoughts, take care and HUGS.

katladyd

12-17-2009, 01:56 PM

You and Max are always in my prayers. I am pulling for both of you!:love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-17-2009, 03:45 PM

Prayers going up daily for you both from me. (((HUGS))) to you both. :love:

Catty1

12-17-2009, 05:39 PM

More prayers for sweet Max...that he is more painfree soon and comfy. :love:

phesina

12-17-2009, 06:34 PM

More prayers and love are being sent for you and Max both.

Russian Blue

12-17-2009, 07:11 PM

Still keeping you both in my thoughts, Slick. It is very hard to see our furkids in this way, just take it one step at a time.

Please be gentle with yourself and give Max the best hug from me.

zippy-kat

12-17-2009, 07:25 PM

Nomilynn

12-17-2009, 07:46 PM

You and Max are in my prayers. :love:

slick

12-18-2009, 10:41 AM

I woke up this morning to that familiar smell.

He had pooped in the bed right beside my pillow. :(:rolleyes:

gini

12-18-2009, 11:55 AM

:love::love: for Max and Slick :love::love:

momoffuzzyfaces

12-18-2009, 12:00 PM

Aw, poor Max (and you too). I can totally understand how he feels. Sometimes when my joints hurt a lot, I wonder if I can make it to the bathroom before it's too late myself. More prayers on the way for you both. :love::love:

Randi

12-18-2009, 12:00 PM

I'm so sorry to read this. :( Thinking of you and sending more positive thoughts. Max will enjoy having you around all weekend. :)

Hugs and kisses to you both. :love: :love:

Medusa

12-18-2009, 12:05 PM

Aw, poor sweet boy! If it'll make you feel any better, Slick, my Pidge had the same problem. The Lactulose that she was taking to loosen her stool did the job alright. She was sleeping in bed w/me and tried to make it to the litterbox but couldn't. So all we can do is clean it up and know that they don't like it any more than we do. Give Max some gentle pats for me and lots of (((HUGS))) for you, my friend. :love:

Taz_Zoee

12-18-2009, 12:33 PM

I am so sad to hear the latest news (the one before the poop on the bed). Slick, you have my number, please give me a call if you need to talk (or cry).
I hope Max can be with you through the holidays. But I know you will do what's best for him.

Hugs to you!

If you don't have my number anymore, PM me and I'll give it to you again.

ChrisH

12-18-2009, 02:20 PM

Oh, how my heart aches for you and your boy. :( http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CwmmawrJet/Smiles/Hugs2.gif

catmandu

12-18-2009, 02:56 PM

:( Sadly Michaels going through a lot of the same things Slick :(
I had to put the litterbox close to him at the end of the bed and mash his food up so he can eat.
Hes got bad teeth , a throat infection , one good kidney and cataracts.
Hes gone off to the Vets for a good rest, and will be on antibiotics until his operation Monday.
Poor Older Cats:(
We are praying for Max as its such a tragedy when Our Cats get older in front of our eyes.
Like Bo Bo and John Hancock who went this year.
:(
Bo Bo was ailing , John Hancocks was a sudden heart attack:eek:
More prayers are coming for Our Friend Max :love:

Barbara

12-18-2009, 03:04 PM

One of my last experiences with Tigris was when he came in my bed- and purred- and then I felt it getting wet and he just peed....
Oh my.
Give him your love as long as you can- that's what you do- I know.

Moesha

12-18-2009, 04:36 PM

Warm thoughts being sent your way.

phesina

12-18-2009, 06:27 PM

More prayers for Max..

jenluckenbach

12-18-2009, 07:56 PM

Prayers for you and Max.

carole

12-19-2009, 03:49 AM

Our thoughts are with you and Max, take care and HUGS.

orangemm

12-19-2009, 04:36 AM

Lots of prayers and hugs for both of you; it's so sad when they get old and things don't work like they used to (just like us).:(

Sweet gentle pats for Max................:love::love::love:

Queen of Poop

12-19-2009, 05:49 AM

Thinking of you and Max, hoping it was a good night. Big, gentle hugs for you both.:love:

Medusa

12-19-2009, 05:58 AM

Thinking of you and Max, hoping it was a good night. Big, gentle hugs for you both.:love:

I second that. :love:

Catty1

12-19-2009, 09:09 AM

More good thoughts and prayers for you and Max. :love::love::love:

Lilith Cherry

12-19-2009, 09:25 AM

Lots of love and good thoughts for you and Max ,Slick.

Bengalz

12-19-2009, 09:27 AM

Dear Slick and Max,

I have been following this post and hesitate to reply because the sadness breaks my heart. These days bring back so many memories of the last, precious days with my Roxy and August. Every time I read about Max, the tears start flowing and I find it so hard to express my feelings.

Enjoy each other in the best way you can for as long as you can and cherish the days that were better.

Tender kisses and gentle hugs to you Sir Max. Great big bear hugs and teary kisses for your Mommy.

slick

12-19-2009, 12:42 PM

Just got back from the vet and he received this 3rd shot. Dr. Singh did confirm that it does take some time to see a difference, so I hold my breath and wait to see positive results. I asked him about oral pain meds and he said that they do the same as the steroid shot, so after next week, he will continue to get a poke once a month for the rest of his life, or until I see his quality of life take a nosedive.

He has peed in the bedroom somewhere. I can smell that familiar ammonia smell. I didn't smell it when I got up this morning.....I guess I'll have to get down on hands and knees and feel for wet spots - or go and purchase a black light. Anyone know another quick way of finding the pee spots??

I'm off now to go and get a fruit basket to deliver to my vets office. After that I need to get some Christmas shopping done and a heating pad for Max.

Betty - I was thinking of you yesterday and wondering of you are in town. I'm going to call you over the holidays. :love:

Thank you again for your love and prayers. This is what Pet Talk is all about.:love::love:

Bengalz

12-19-2009, 12:48 PM

Betty - I was thinking of you yesterday and wondering of you are in town. I'm going to call you over the holidays. :love:

Thank you again for your love and prayers. This is what Pet Talk is all about.:love::love:

Slick,

We will be away from Dec 23 to Dec 27 but I'm home after that until the New Year! I will email my cell number to you and hope we can connect soon.

Hugs, Betty

slick

12-19-2009, 02:11 PM

Thanks Betty. I just got your email. :love:

Well, I learned something new. Who says an old dog can't learn new tricks. :rolleyes: After I dropped off the fruit basket to the vets, I drove to the groomers where Max used to go a couple of times a year. I gave them the news and I was told that steroid shots reek havoc on the kidneys and causes loss of bladder control. So I've put his covered litter box in the bedroom and put down a second one in the spare room. The second one has lower sides which should make it easier for him to get in and out of. Hmmm, 3 litter boxes for one cat.....I'm hoping this will do the trick.

I still have to find the wet spot though. I guess I'll be on all fours for awhile.... Shut up Richard.....:D:D;)

edit: I just picked up Max and put him in the covered box in the bedroom. Sure enough he peed so I know, that he knows where the box is. Fingers and paws crossed.

momoffuzzyfaces

12-19-2009, 02:39 PM

Have you tried walking around the room bare footed? That's the fasted way for me to find wet spots.

Prayers and (((HUGS))) for you and sweet Sir Max! :love::love:

slick

12-19-2009, 02:43 PM

Have you tried walking around the room bare footed? That's the fasted way for me to find wet spots. The rug that I have is beige in color and it's berber - very tight knit and very hard to clean. Yes, I've walked around bare footed anyway but didn't feel anything but my nose tells a different story. I have to find the spot pretty quickly because I don't want him using it all the time. God I love that boy but I sure don't want my condo stinking of cat urine.

momoffuzzyfaces

12-19-2009, 04:06 PM

Did you check the bed and under it? Behind any curtains that may be hanging down? In the closet? Hope you find it soon. I know how ya feel. Grandma pooped on the bedroom carpet a while back when Winnie wouldn't let her in the litterboxes in the bathroom and kitchen. I finally put a box in the bedroom for her. :love:

krazyaboutkatz

12-19-2009, 08:57 PM

Slick, Yes, unfortunately most pain meds will affect the kidneys in cats.:( This is one reason why I'll be using a pain patch or buprenex on my Sunny. I hope that the extra litter boxes will help. You might also want to try buying some puppy pee pads and putting some of these down. I hope that you're able to find all of the pee spots and clean them up well. You can Max continue to remain in my thoughts and prayers. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Medusa

12-20-2009, 07:29 AM

I had Berber carpet at one time and, you're right, it's difficult to clean and sometimes difficult as well to find pee spots. Unfortunately, the only way for me to find pee spots is as you said, crawling around on hands and knees. Wear latex gloves, though. Not only is it more sanitary but you'll notice the difference in how the carpet feels immediately when you come upon the pee spot. I'm sure you know about Urine Gone cleaner but in the slim chance that you don't, give it a whirl. When Puddy was having such a tough time in her last days, sometimes she couldn't make it to the litterbox and believe me when I say that Urine Gone got every last trace of the stain and smell out. The important thing is, though, that you keep your spirits up the best you can. We're w/you. Keep the faythe. :love:

slick

12-24-2009, 12:09 AM

My morning routine is just that, routine but one thing Max loves is when I open up the bathroom door to have a shower. He's in there like a dirty shirt.

This morning I got up and went about my business. Max didn't greet me but that's normal. When I opened up the bathroom door, no Max. When I called him, no Max. It was late so I had a shower and changed for work. I called Max, no Max.

I first looked behind the bed, no Max. I then scoured all the corners of my apartment, behind things, no Max. I called and called, no Max. It was then that my heart started pumping a mile a minute. What if he passed in the night somewhere and I wasn't there to comfort him. I was scared. I kept looking, then I noticed that one of the stuffed toys on the couch was knocked down. I knelt down to pick it up and low and behold. This is what I saw.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/slickvic50/Max/Max_couch_closeup.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/slickvic50/Max/Msx_couch_closeup1.jpg

He only looked up when I called his name.:rolleyes:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/slickvic50/Max/Max_couch1.jpg

Can you spot the kitty?

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/slickvic50/Max/Max_couch2.jpg

Even when I was calling his name, he didn't respond. Silly kitty. :D:love:

Excuse the mess. I getting stocking stuffers ready....

krazyaboutkatz

12-24-2009, 12:57 AM

Whew! What a scare he gave you.:eek: I'm glad that he was having a nice nap on the couch among all of the stuffed animals. He sure is adorable.:) This kind of reminds me of the movie "E.T." when the kids couldn't find E.T. and later they found him hiding out with their stuffed animals.:)

Please give Max some cuddles and scritches for me. You both continue to remain in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that both of you have a great Christmas and a wonderful New Year. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Killearn Kitties

12-24-2009, 03:06 AM

Oh how cute! :love: What an absolutely adorable picture!
Naughty little devil giving you a fright like that, of course, but that picture almost makes up for it. Max is just like a cuddly toy himself. :D

jenluckenbach

12-24-2009, 05:35 AM

How totally adorable Max is. :love::love::love:

orangemm

12-24-2009, 05:37 AM

((((hugs))) for you and gentle scritches for Max.:love::love: This has to doubly difficult for you, given that we are smack dab in the throes of the holiday season. It's hard to feel festive and cheerful when a loved one is so sick and in pain.:(

I hope the meds start to to the job and that Max feels better.

That picture is worth a 1,000 words! Looks like one of my rooms with dozens of stuffed animals, pillows, and throws!:D The best part of the picture is that darling kitty....................:love::love::love:

Medusa

12-24-2009, 06:16 AM

Wow, that was scary! It was always a fear of mine, too, that Pidge or Puddy or any one of my Fur Posse would go to the Bridge when I wasn't there but if that does happen, then I have to remind myself that it's the way they wanted it. They deserve to go the way they want to also. But that wasn't the case this time and, for your sake, I'm glad it didn't happen that way.

The pix are just adorable. Max looks so much like a little toy kitty that my parents gave me when I was just three years old. I carried that kitty around w/me until it was an absolute mess, only to be replaced by the real thing. You have the most precious kitty of all, Slick, your beautiful Max. The Fur Posse and I are wishing you the merriest of Christmases together. Gentle pets to Max and lots of (((HUGS))) to you, my friend. :love:

Queen of Poop

12-24-2009, 06:31 AM

Max, you silly boy!! Still got a bit of stinker in you! I hope the Cartrophen kicks in for you really soon so you can get to feeling better. Merry Christmas to you and your mom. I hope you both have a very good Day. Hugs and kisses.:love:

Barbara

12-24-2009, 07:40 AM

Aaaww Max- you scared meowmie but I am sure she could only be happy when she saw you napping just like another toy kitty.
Tigris loved to sleep in the basket with the beenies here.
Merry Christmas to both of you:)

momoffuzzyfaces

12-24-2009, 09:55 AM

I'm with Max. When I finally get comfy, I don't want to move either. Maybe he is resting up to greet Santa tonight! :love:

ChrisH

12-24-2009, 03:55 PM

Sooooo adorable. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CwmmawrJet/Smiles/love.gif

Lovely pictures of your dear Max, slick, thank you for sharing them.

katladyd

12-24-2009, 04:33 PM

slick, you have the prettiest, most adorable, kitty ever!!! He looks just like a living stuffed toy! It is no wonder you love him so much.:love::love:

Nomilynn

12-26-2009, 11:33 PM

How is Max doing? I thought about him a lot over Christmas. I'm in Calgary for the holidays, but he was on my mind. I would love to come and visit him sometime in January if you would have me and if you think he would enjoy it! ;)

Queen of Poop

12-27-2009, 07:09 AM

Hoping you and Max had a good Christmas.:love:

Medusa

12-27-2009, 07:22 AM

How is our boy this morning? Good, I hope, and you, too, girlie. :love:

slick

12-30-2009, 12:42 AM

First and foremost, thank you for the lovely comments and Max says "thank you" too!!!:love:

Max has his fourth and final injection last Saturday and according to Dr. Singh, Max is to go in once a month now for more pokes.

I have to be honest and say that all of this is not helping Max at all. In fact the weakness in his back legs seems to be getting worse. I now have 3 litterboxes set up - 2 of them have low sides. I just watched him and he could barely make it in one of them. So far he always does make the LB so I can be thankful of that, although there are still times that I do find some prezzies on the living room floor.

I don't know what else I can do for him. It's like his whole body is willing, but his back legs aren't (front legs are still very strong). He is eating, although not as much, and his output is good. I also have about 4 bowls of water all over the place for him.

He hasn't been behind the bed in days and has now taken up residence on one of the dining room chairs. Yes, he can jump on the chair and on the coffee table but not the bed even though I have a step stool for him that he used to use. I guess he finds it too difficult now. He has not been on the bed for a number of weeks now. I do miss that sweet purr in my ear.:(

His behaviour continues to be puzzling - licking the inside of the fridge, the windows, the closet doors - I'm just putting it down to perhaps senility, age and CRF. I continue to give him lots of cuddles and make sure he is comfortable and pain free. That's all I will do for now.

God only knows how much more time he will be with me. :(

Cinder & Smoke

12-30-2009, 01:04 AM

I continue to give him lots of cuddles and make sure he is comfortable and pain free.
That's all I will do for now.

Not much more a Beloved Kitty really needs.
Sounds like a great plan - Carry On, Mom!

;)
{{{Huggs}}} to Max & Mom! :love:
:love: :love:

Medusa

12-30-2009, 06:53 AM

Forgive me if I asked this already but did you mention to your vet "burning mouth syndrome"? Does Max's tongue stick out occasionally or more often than not? My Puddy's did and someone on PT found out about burning mouth syndrome for me. I know that you're making sure Max has plenty of ice cubes and I also had popsicles and fudgsicles for Puddy to lick. She loved fudgsicles! IIRC, B vitamins helped Puddy tremendously, (CRF kitties need the B vitamins even more; I was also giving them to Pidge) although they were administered to her by way of her subQ fluids; I injected them directly into the bag but your vet would be able to give Max a shot and maybe he would see some relief. Here is a link about BMS.

http://www.fabcats.org/breeders/infosheets/orofacial/orofacial.html

Of course, prayers are continuing for dear Max and you, Slick. (((HUGS))) :love:

ETA: Now how could I forget a candle for our sweet Max? So sorry; not enough sleep. ;) Here ya go, buddy:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=9870427

Randi

12-30-2009, 08:39 AM

Slick, I'm thinking of you and dear Max and hope you will have some cosy cuddle time together going in to the new year. You're doing everything you can. :)

Sending lots of kisses and hugs. :love: :love:

slick

12-30-2009, 10:06 AM

The clinical signs are characterised by exaggerated licking and chewing movements, with pawing at the mouth. Typically the discomfort is unilateral or worse on one side and can be episodic or continuous. In the episodic version the distress often occurs after eating or grooming and lasts between 5 minutes and 2 hours. OMG - that's it!!!!!!! Mary, how can I thank you enough for this. We just simply have to meet someday. :love:

I'm going to print off that page and talk to my vet again about B vitamin shot. I mentioned it to him a while ago but he indicated that there was no clinical proof that B shots work. When Max was at the vet recently I had the vet look inside his mouth and nothing was found. Yes, his teeth are in not too good shape but I'm not putting him through the stress of a dental right now.

What is IIRC?:confused:

orangemm

12-30-2009, 10:32 AM

Praying for Max every day, Slick.:love::love:

Hopefully Mary's "find" will help Max.

IIRC = If I recall correctly............more computer jibber-jabber. It's hard to keep up with all of it.:confused::confused:

Medusa

12-30-2009, 11:35 AM

OMG - that's it!!!!!!! Mary, how can I thank you enough for this. We just simply have to meet someday. :love:

I'm going to print off that page and talk to my vet again about B vitamin shot. I mentioned it to him a while ago but he indicated that there was no clinical proof that B shots work. When Max was at the vet recently I had the vet look inside his mouth and nothing was found. Yes, his teeth are in not too good shape but I'm not putting him through the stress of a dental right now.

What is IIRC?:confused:

My vet, whom I adore, said the same thing but I said "Humor me". I saw an immediate difference in Puddy. Some say to just give B6 or B12 but I did all the B vitamins and it sure perked her up and stopped the tongue hanging out of her mouth, which made me so sad to see.

Sorry about the IIRC. It means "if I recall correctly". I seem to have fallen into the LOL speak w/out even realizing it. :confused:

slick

12-30-2009, 02:27 PM

momoffuzzyfaces

12-30-2009, 04:17 PM

Prayers are continuing here for you and Sweet Sir Max. :love::love:

ChrisH

12-30-2009, 05:31 PM

Prayers continuing for your sweet boy and you.

Medusa

12-30-2009, 08:10 PM

I just spoke to Dr. Singh and although he's never heard of "burning mouth syndrome" he's willing to try to Vit B shots.

Question for Mary - how often did Puddy get the shots? Once a week? Once a month?? Did you give the shots at home or take Puddy in?

Thanks.

My vet gave me a syringe w/1cc of B complex vitamins in it and I injected it into the port in the bag of subQ fluids. She got 150 cc of Ringers lactate every day. If I hadn't done that, she would've been injected twice a week w/1 cc of B complex vitamins. I know that Max can't tolerate the subQ's, so your vet will probably administer the injections for you. Hope this helps, Slick. :love:

krazyaboutkatz

12-31-2009, 12:20 AM

Slick, I hope that the vitamin B12 shots will help Max. Both my RB Starr and Ziggy have had them and I injected them myself at home and they got them once weekly. It gave Starr lots of energy and helped his dull coat and improved his whiskers. It helped to improve Ziggy's appetite.

Since Max is still having problems using the litter boxes, you might want to buy some puppy training pads for him. You can just put them in the places where he's been going potty and hopefully he'll learn to use them so then there won't be a mess for you to clean up. You could also put them near the litter boxes too. Good luck.:)

Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

carole

12-31-2009, 04:20 AM

Slick i am thinking of you and Max, just keep him as comfortable as you can, I personally have decided not to put Ash through anything more,just to look after him well, love him,pander to his every need and keep his medication going,a dental is totally out of the question for Ash and I presume probably for Max too, i understand what you are going through and think of you both often, love and hugs to you both.

Tubby & Peanut's Mom

01-01-2010, 07:43 PM

Slick, while you're vet is at it (giving Max Vitamin B shots) have him add in some potassium. I believe Max's "weakness" can be directly attributed to a deficiency in potassium that is very common in CRF cats. When I first brought Tubby in and thought he was a goner, the vet immediately knew the reason he couldn't lift his butt was because his potassium deficiency was making his back legs weak. I had thought it was arthritis myself, but the vet immediately knew it had nothing to do with arthritis - and I'm soooo sorry it too this long for this to dawn on me!

Tubby got his potassium replenished with an additive that was included in the fluids we gave him. Between the fluids and the potassium, we noticed an immediate improvement in Tubby. Since Max doesn't do well with the fluids, ask the vet if he can include the potassium in Max's shots, or maybe there's a pill you can give him.

Here's some information from the web:
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POTASSIUM DEFICIENCY IN THE CAT

Hypokalemia is the medical term for a depletion of potassium in the body. Potassium is one of the essential electrolytes that keeps the body healthy and functioning properly. It is very important in kidney, muscle and heart function.

The most common cause of hypokalemia (low potassium) is chronic kidney disease. Poorly functioning kidneys leak potassium into the urine. Cats fed certain diets or given a supplement to acidify the urine may be more likely to suffer from potassium loss. Potassium deficiency is also common in older cats (twelve years of age or more) in general, with or without kidney disease. Older cats are less efficient at absorbing potassium from their food and they tend to lose more of it in their urine. Even without obvious signs of kidney disease, all older cats have some degree of decreased kidney function, which occurs naturally with time.

SIGNS. In the beginning stages of potassium deficiency, signs are very subtle, and often attributed to “old age” or other diseases. Cats may show weight loss, muscle weakness or stiffness, poor hair coat, poor appetite, and listlessness. These signs are usually not evident until the condition has become severe and possibly life threatening.

DIAGNOSIS. Diagnosis is confirmed by the determination of low levels of blood potassium through blood testing. Laboratory results must be interpreted in relation to clinical signs and history, since cats may have a normal blood potassium level and still have serious total body potassium depletion. This is because the body mobilizes stores of potassium from the muscle tissue to keep the amount of potassium in the blood constant. Low blood potassium levels don’t appear until all the muscle stores of potassium have been used up. It then takes a long time to restore potassium levels to a healthy amount in both blood and muscle tissues.

TREATMENT. Although severe potassium deficiencies may require hospitalization and intensive care, along with intravenous potassium administration, the treatment for chronic but not life-threatening hypokalemia is to add potassium to the diet. The most common brand of supplement, Tumil-Kä, is a source of potassium gluconate. It is available in a tablet, a paste similar to a hairball remedy, or a powder that can be mixed in canned food. Most cats will readily accept one of these forms of supplement.

RESPONSE TO TREATMENT. Visible response to supplementation can take 4-8 weeks. Your veterinarian will want to recheck your cat’s blood to monitor potassium levels on a regular basis. This will ensure the appropriate dosage is achieved and maintained. Lifelong therapy is usually required once hypokalemia has been diagnosed.
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Again, I'm sooooo sorry it took me this long to remember this, but I think it was your recent descriptions of how Max has a hard time lifting his back end that triggered my memories of Tubby.

{{{hugs}}} to you and good luck. I adored the pictures of Max with all his stuffy friends. He's such a cutie pie.

Oh, and I don't know if Max will tolerate them, but they do make diapers for doggies that may work for Max. If you remember, Peanut did quite well with them. I think it made her look totally pathetic, but she didn't seem to mind them and they took a huge load off my mind. Instead of spending time on finding pee spots and cleaning them, you can spend time snuggling with your little boy. :)

Lilith Cherry

01-02-2010, 07:14 AM

Lots of loving thoughts to you and Max ,Slick. I hope some of the previous suggestions will help him feel more comfortable.

zippy-kat

01-02-2010, 10:39 AM

Slick, my vet, too, was concerned about K'Cee getting enough potassium; he said (for us) this is where the hairball remedies come into play. I give this (http://vetriscience.com/vetri-hbr.php) to her every other day. It's cheap, about $12.00 a bottle. That might be a "maintenance" option for Max after the potassium shots.

Forgive me if this has already been posted but I've found a wealth of information here: CRF Cats (http://www.felinecrf.com/index.htm).

And for what it's worth, I've had tremendous luck (thank you, God!) with Azodyl. That might be something you ask about if you haven't already. From what I understand, Azodyl is "internal dialysis" so to speak; it increases good gut bacteria which in turn helps break down certain toxins, resulting in a lower BUN level.

Still thinking and praying for you guys.

slick

01-02-2010, 02:41 PM

Gosh, every time I come here there's new information. Thank you all so very much. I have an appointment with Dr. Singh today at 2:30pm (just me and him) and I want to talk to him. Max's last blood tests revealed that his potassium level is too high so I want to talk to Dr. Singh about that as well as Azodyl that Zippy mentioned. Thanks Zippy for the link to the CRF website. I have been there and yes, it's an amazing site.

Debbie: Many, many thanks for that information as well. Good to hear from you. :love:

I know that he was previously diagnosed with IVDD - Inter Vertebral Disc Disease and I wonder if this is the cause of his weakness. At that same time Dr. Singh mentioned Spondylosis of the Lumbar L5 & L6 - but all this was about a year ago.

slick

01-06-2010, 10:17 AM

Slowly but surely he's getting banned from different rooms. Now he seems to think that the floor beside the toilet in the guest bathroom is his litterbox so now that bathroom door stays closed at all times - it's too small to put a litterbox in there. Yes, I could use pee pads, but I want him to start using the "real" litterbox again. I hope it doesn't come down to point where Max has to be confined to one room only. That's no life for him.

Dr. Singh really feels that there is nothing we can do at this point and I have to say I agree. His potassium level is too high so giving him that supplement is not an option. I asked him about the Azodyl and he said that it's not an option either because it can cause major kidney damage. Dr. Singh confirmed that the cause of his weakness is from the IVDD and once it sets in, there is no treatment that can help. Oh yes, about the Vitamin B shots, Dr. Singh said we could try it but he's doubtful it will help at this late stage and in addition he said that they sting quite badly.

He is hungry though and still goes through a whole small tin of Fancy Feast at night and when I come home from work I see that his dry food has been nibbled at. Again, all I can do is keep him comfortable. I fear I may have to make a decision in the not-too-distant future.:(:(

Oh about the diapers, somehow I don't think that would work. He won't even tolerate a collar.

ChrisH

01-06-2010, 10:24 AM

Oh, slick ... {{hugs}} love and prayers continuing.

emily_the_spoiled

01-06-2010, 10:30 AM

I don't know if you want to explore the option of reducing his potassium levels, but that might help...

You can try a diuretic (like Lasix) or something call Kayexelate (which binds the potassium and then it is excreted as a "tootsie roll"

But I do not envy you your decisions... :(

Barbara

01-06-2010, 11:03 AM

Slick I send all my best thoughts. You remember Peanut- and her parents sleeping under a shower curtain in the mobile home in her last time :(

The Filou now has 3 litterboxes for himself.

I just think of you and Max.

Taz_Zoee

01-06-2010, 11:09 AM

You and Max remain in my thoughts constantly.
Hugs to you Slick!

Randi

01-06-2010, 12:09 PM

Slick, it's good that Max is not in pain and still wants to eat, at least.

Lots of positive thoughts to Max. :love:

... and big ((((hugs)))) to you. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

01-06-2010, 12:23 PM

(((HUGS))) and prayers continue for you both. :love::love:

Cataholic

01-06-2010, 12:27 PM

Prayers for you both. :love:

Medusa

01-06-2010, 01:48 PM

Catty1

01-06-2010, 03:24 PM

Kayexelate might be worth asking about? And as for the Vit B...are there oral drops that can go in his food, or tabs in a pill pocket?

I know, I know...just want Max to be comfy. {{{{hugs}}}}

krazyaboutkatz

01-06-2010, 05:30 PM

Slick, Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent to both you and Max. Just enjoy the time that you have with him and spoil him rotten. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Pinot's Mom

01-06-2010, 05:36 PM

Prayers and hugs for both of you...I'm so sorry you're going through this...we all know you'll make the best decision for your baby.:love:

phesina

01-06-2010, 07:24 PM

Prayers and love and good wishes and peace to you and Max from us too.

zippy-kat

01-06-2010, 07:51 PM

I asked him about the Azodyl and he said that it's not an option either because it can cause major kidney damage.

If this is true, I need to have a major talk with my vet as that's what we're on to help K'Cee's levels come down. It was my understanding that it's not the safety that's contested, it's the effectiveness, and therefore it's considered a supplement rather than a "medicine." (IE you can buy it without a prescription) The fact that it might cause damage just blows my mind.

{{My prayers are with you and Max. Wishing you many more cuddles and happy days.}}

slick

01-06-2010, 08:41 PM

Zip: Before I sent to see Dr. Singh I googled Azodyl and the only side effect I found was vomiting. I can deal with that but when I researched further there were some kitties that experienced so much vomiting that they were taken off it. However Dr. Singh and I discussed the drug anyway and he did mention kidney damage. Now....it could be that he meant that "anything I give Max will cause kidney damage since his kidneys are already in such a sad state" not specifically "this drug causes kidney damage in all cats" - a play on words.

Please do speak to your vet about it and I'm anxious to see what he/she says. Maybe I heard wrong.

Edit: 8pm - just arrived home from work and once again, all 3 litterboxes have not been touched. He's peeing somewhere and for the life of me, I can't find the spots. I'm really thinking that he just can't lift his back legs over the side. I will have to get something in place but don't have time until this weekend. Durn w-u-r-k keep getting in the way. I do have a fourth litterbox that I can set up - it's much smaller and the sides are not as high. For now I've opened up the guest BR door and put 2 - count them, two!!! - litterboxes in there so there is no way he can get to the toilet without stepping over each one. We'll see what happens. BTW, my apt doesn't smell at all and I'm amazed by that. I did hear somewhere that an old cat's pee doesn't smell that much - don't know if it's true or not.

katladyd

01-06-2010, 10:25 PM

Our young, six-year-old, female kitty has taken to "thinking outside the box" the last few days. If the litter boxes aren't real clean, she does that sometimes, but now it doesn't matter if the boxes are squeaky clean, she does her business outside the box! I suppose a vet visit is in order.:(

Catty1

01-06-2010, 10:58 PM

Prayers for you and Max. :love::love:

carole

01-07-2010, 12:02 AM

Slick I am so with you on this unpleasant rollercoaster ride, i can so understand where you are at, i fear I am not too far behind you with respects to my Ash, i believe you have made the right choices with your dear Max, personally i am not going to put Ash through anything that causes him discomfort, they have enough of that with CRF IMO,but of course that is entirley up to you his beloved Mama.,and i respect anyone's decisions regarding their kitties, we have to do what we think is for the best.

I am continually thinking of you both and hoping that Max will keep eating, that is always a good sign, and when he is ready ,he will let you know, i feel sure about that, in the meantime, keep up the fantastic care and HUGS to you both.:love::love:

slick

01-07-2010, 01:31 AM

Tonight he only has eaten half of what he used to and I discovered where the pee is. You see, he's taken up residence on the dining room chairs and they are covered and plush. Well, I guess he's peeing in his sleep because I just had to scrub two of them. The seats really smelled bad. All indications point to loss of bladder control.:(

The good news is that he used the litterbox about 1/2 hour ago so at least he remembers what it's for....I hope.

Thank you all for your understanding and compassion. I know that many of you are or have been in this situation and understand the struggle that lies within. I was thinking tonight that maybe Dr. Singh is giving up on Max. There is an emergency clinic close by me that's open 7pm to 7am and the few times I've spoken to them they have been extremely caring and empathetic - they helped me when I first had trouble with the sub-q line. I was thinking of getting a second opinion from them and drilling them about the Azodyl and Kayexalate. Do you think it's worth it? I will already know what they will tell me. Am I just grasping for that elusive straw????:confused::(

carole

01-07-2010, 01:55 AM

Slick since you have asked i will respond, although my opinion might be somewhat controversial here, however that is what it is my opinion and it is up to you as your pet's owner to make the choices for Max.

Personally i think there comes a time where you just have to draw the line, and think of what is best for Max, if something is worth trying and it will not cause him any side effects or pain, then i would go with it, other than that,I would just keep him comfortable,because as i see it,what is happening is just life and the effects of old age,there does come a time where you just have to let nature take it's course, and luckily for pets we are able to give them peace when it is needed.

I think clutching at straws is normal, but as long as it is not at Max's expense and you feel ok with it.

Again only YOU and YOU alone can make those decisions on Max's behalf, i wish you well,and do whatever gives you peace of mind, just remember no matter how hard it is to let go, we just have to for the sake of our kitties comfort,in other words we have to put our wishes last, and their's first, no matter how much we want them to continue to be with us. I think Max will let you know when he has had enough.

Thinking of you both and hoping you can come to a decision that you feel is right for you both.

trayi52

01-07-2010, 07:28 AM

Slick, I am so sorry to hear that Max is not doing so well. Maybe the sub-q fluids will prolong his life, and he will be with you much longer than expected.

Hugs,
Willie

emily_the_spoiled

01-07-2010, 10:25 AM

Vitamin B does come as a liquid. Go ask your local pharmacist or you can even order it online...

http://well.ca/green/products/natures-harmony-power-shot-liquid_10881.html

gini

01-07-2010, 10:57 AM

Slick, just know that you and Max are in my prayers. It is always so difficult to know what is best to do for our fur kids. It sounds as though you are doing everything possible to accommodate him and keep him comfortable.

Can you feel the love coming from all of us? So many of us have been where you are including myself, so we understand what you are going through.

Dear friend - some {{{hugs}}} for you.

katladyd

01-07-2010, 12:17 PM

slick, I would definitely confer with the other vet. What can it hurt? Maybe they can actually give Max some relief. That would be a blessing. The worst they can do is tell you nothing can be done. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Max.:love:

Taz_Zoee

01-07-2010, 03:20 PM

I cannot come to this thread without getting tears in my eyes.
Slick, talking to the other vet would be a good idea. No harm in it for anyone. And it might make you feel better about the whole situation (whether the other vet is giving up or not).

Hugs still going out to you!

orangemm

01-07-2010, 04:18 PM

Still praying for you and Max......................keep the faith..........:love::love:

krazyaboutkatz

01-07-2010, 08:28 PM

Nomilynn

01-08-2010, 01:01 AM

You and Max are still in my prayers. I think that if you have had a good experience with the other vet, then of course you should get a 2nd opinion. What can it hurt? Don't doubt your instincts. If you think you should case conference when it comes to Max, go ahead and do it!

Lots of hugs! :love::love::love:

Medusa

01-08-2010, 05:02 AM

Mornin' Sunshine! Just wondering how you and Max are doing this morning. A little better, I hope. I remember when I was going through your experience w/my Puddy, I took a couple of days off from PT b/c I felt overwhelmed and although my friends were only trying to help, so much info just added to that feeling, especially when nothing seemed to work anyhow. I hope that you and Max are having one of your good days together. (((HUGS))) :love:

kitten645

01-08-2010, 08:22 AM

I am so so so sorry you are going thru this. My heart breaks for you and Max. Just know that you are doing the best you can for him. It's all you can do. Much love and support to you both.

jenluckenbach

01-08-2010, 09:11 AM

SLick, you and Max are on muy mind and in my prayers.

Just remember, sometimes the BEST decisions are the HARDEST decisions.

{{{{{HUGE HUGS}}}}}

slick

01-08-2010, 08:56 PM

when I was going through your experience w/my Puddy, I took a couple of days off from PT b/c I felt overwhelmed and although my friends were only trying to help, so much info just added to that feeling, especially when nothing seemed to work anyhow. Yes Mary, that how I feel now - overwhelmed. There is not enough hours in my day to do all the reading necessary to make a good judgement call.

I have an appointment on Saturday at 4pm to take Max into another vet who comes highly recommended by a very good friend of mine. I did speak to him on the phone and explained the situation and his opinion is that Max should not be getting Metacam at all. Apparently it damages the kidneys. Well, I did some research a while ago and found that Metacam damages the liver but nothing was said about the kidneys. This second vet thinks Max would be better off on a liquid pain killer called Tramadol. Anyone had a pet on this med? If so, what was your experience with this? Did it help? I know that my own vet mentioned Tramadol before and from what I've read about it, the most common side effects are upset stomach, constipation and sometimes siezures so I opted not to give this to Max. Right now he's constipated enough without added something else to plug him up.

I'm going to take Max's latest blood test results with me and hopefully this new vet won't have to take more tests. Max's savings account has been replenished so cost is really not a concern right now. All I want is a second opinion. Oh and the good news is that this new vet charges less for a consultation fee. - only $29.00. :)

Thank you all again for listening to me. This is really tearing me up inside. :(:(

Barbara

01-09-2010, 04:03 AM

I only can listen- I have no advice to give. Our thoughts are with you.

Medusa

01-09-2010, 06:06 AM

No experience w/Tramadol and pets, just that I'm switching to it myself b/c it's helping me w/my own pain. There are risks w/every drug we try but seeing that Metacam does damage the kidneys, the second vet is probably right on. I was concerned about giving it to my Boo but my vet assured me that it's ok for him but Boo isn't in CRF either. Just hold on tight and weigh your options, Slick. I found that I did so much reading that my mind just became clogged and I couldn't remember anything anyhow so I had to rely on my instincts, which were also shot by that time, so I know exactly how you feel. All you really have to do is love Max, then compare what the second vet said to what the first vet said. We're here for you. (((HUGS))) Keep the faythe. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

01-09-2010, 10:02 AM

Sorry my friend. I have no experience with pets on Tramadol but, like Mary, I take it for pain myself. I only take mine once in a while when I can't stand the pain any more. I read it can be habit forming. I can understand why. Being in less pain can be addicting.

If the vet does start Max on Tramadol, I'd ask for the lowest possible dose to start with. I only take a 4th of a pill that I'm supposed to take. It still knocks me out for a while. (or maybe it just takes the pain away so I can sleep. I'm not real sure on that)

Hope the new vet can help. Prayers on the way for you and Max. :love::love:

gini

01-09-2010, 11:09 AM

Saturday morning hugs for you and for Max. I can offer you no additional information as I am completely unfamiliar with this drug.

I recall when my Magic was so ill that I read and read and ended up with a whirling mind full of bits of information, but no clear direction came to me.

It was at that point I made the decision to take Magic off all chemo treatments and stop torturing him with visits (overnight) to the vet. I feel that he had a good quality of life until the day came and he clearly told me it was time.

It broke my heart, so I understand what you are doing and how you feel.
All of us do, so I will add my name to the list of people who love you and
want to comfort you as much as we can.

Randi

01-09-2010, 11:37 AM

And saturday hugs and warm thoughts coming me and Fister. :)

Slick, I have only once given Fister a painkiller, that was called Romefen, so I'm afraid I don't know know about the one you mentioned. If it does cause tummy problems, perhaps try to give him Royal Canin's Sensitive. KK's cats loved it as much as Fister does. I only give as treats, though.

Royal Canin Veterinary Cat Sensitive Adult S/O Dry NO30

This is what it says:
An ideal maintenance diet for adult cats with a sensitive digestion.

Also suitable for Pregnant and lactating queens and entire cats (un-neutered).

Specially formulated to be easily digestible for those cats that suffer from a sensitive stomach and do not thrive on other diets. Contains rice due to its high digestibility and beet pulp which stimulates the growth of beneficial intestinal bacteria.

The Omega-3 fatty acid contact also helps maintain a healthy intestinal lining allowing easy digestion and efficient absorption for a cats optimal health.

A combination of essential fatty acids and trace elements come to form a nutritionally balanced diet that provides all the nourishment needed for healthy skin and a glossy coat.

Lots of hugs and positive thoughts to the both of you. :love: :love:

carole

01-09-2010, 09:10 PM

I have taken Tramadol myself and for me personally i would never recommend it to anyone, it was the most awful stuff ever, good for the pain, but my head was in a different place, i could not even concentrate to pick up the phone and dial a number.

Good luck at the new vets, and just do whatever you think is best,what I and others may do may differ, you have to go with your own feelings about Max, I am thinking of you both and wishing for some positive news,just know we are all here for you through this very difficult time. HUGS:love:

slick

01-10-2010, 04:21 PM

Crap, my keyboard is not the greatest. It's got water all over it.:(

It was a long appointment and in summary, second vet said there is nothing else we can do. He moved Max every which way but he didn't flinch so we are both convinced that Max is not in pain - although I do know that they hide it well..... We will not explore any other option at this point as he is too far gone. Please, no bashing or thinking that I've given up, but there comes a point that quality of life is what counts. I will continue to make life easier for him as I see fit. He's wasting away - only 4 lbs now.

He hardly ate or drank anything last night. It's one day at a time at this point.:(

Medusa

01-10-2010, 04:28 PM

Crap, my keyboard is not the greatest. It's got water all over it.:(

It was a long appointment and in summary, second vet said there is nothing else we can do. He moved Max every which way but he didn't flinch so we are both convinced that Max is not in pain - although I do know that they hide it well..... We will not explore any other option at this point as he is too far gone. Please, no bashing or thinking that I've given up, but there comes a point that quality of life is what counts. I will continue to make life easier for him as I see fit.

He hardly ate or drank anything last night. It's one day at a time at this point.:(

I'm so sorry. I can't imagine that anyone will say anything negative about the course you've chosen for Max. We do what we feel is best and that's all we can do. I wish it were different for Max and you. Prayers are going up right now for you both. (((HUGS))) Keep the faythe. :love:

Killearn Kitties

01-10-2010, 04:37 PM

Lots of love going out to you and Max tonight. :love::love::love:
I know that you will always do the right thing for him.

Catty1

01-10-2010, 04:54 PM

Hugs to you and Max. You love him, and have given him the benefit of a second opinion. I know his huge comfort is having you with him and near him.

Your late Xmas card is going in the mail tomorrow, to you and Max. I hope he is there when it arrives. :love::love:

carole

01-10-2010, 05:29 PM

Oh Slick i am so sorry to read this,i feared the worst, but one never gives up hope do we? just make Max as comfortable as you can,continue to love him and know you have made the right choice, it does become about quality of life for them in the end.

Have you tried offering him some kitty milk, it is specially for cats with lots of vitamins in it,with lactose removed, i have found it a godsend for Ash,he might take it ,worth a try maybe.

We continue to think of you both and send you lots of love and hugs.:):love:

trayi52

01-10-2010, 05:32 PM

Slick, I am so sorry to hear the news. I, like Carole was hoping for good news.
Like she said, you never can tell how things like this turn out. Give Max some hugs and kisses for me.

Willie

katladyd

01-10-2010, 06:07 PM

You know and love Max far better than any of us. Do what you feel is right and it WILL be right! Don't let anyone say different to you. Love and prayers to both of you.:love:

Queen of Poop

01-10-2010, 06:14 PM

Having been in your shoes before I know the painful decisions you're having to make. Only you know what is best for both you and Max. No one else. You love Max and I know you will do the best by him. I send you both a big hug. Know that you are both in my thoughts daily. :love:

momoffuzzyfaces

01-10-2010, 07:00 PM

Aw, my dear friend, my heart aches for you. Letting Leonardo go was the hardest thing I ever did. One thing my vet told me was to never second guess yourself. You have done everything for your sweet boy possible. Please try and enjoy the time remaining, no matter how long it is. We are all praying that it will be quite a while yet. :love:

zippy-kat

01-10-2010, 07:06 PM

I don't think anyone here will ever bash you. You've exhausted all your options and done what any devoted pet owner would do.

:love: We love you both. :love:

krazyaboutkatz

01-11-2010, 12:52 AM

Slick, I'm so sorry to hear the latest news about Max.:( Just enjoy him, keep him comfortable, and love love love him. You've already done everything you could so try to relax and enjoy the good quality time that you now have together. I hope that he'll be with you for quite a while yet. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent to both of you. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

ChrisH

01-11-2010, 05:24 AM

slick, my heart aches for you. Sending loads of love, prayers and hugs for you and your dear boy.

smokey the elder

01-11-2010, 07:38 AM

I think everyone here has been in the same boat at one time or another with a very sick cat. Just do what you feel best. You will know. {{Hugs}}

Pinot's Mom

01-11-2010, 07:59 AM

No one will bash you; you and Max are going through an excruciating journey together and only you two will know when you've reached the destination. Hugs and prayers.:love:

Barbara

01-11-2010, 08:09 AM

Slick I cannot see how anyone could bash - very few people in the world would embark on such a long and painful journey.
It is good to hear Max is not in pain. Only you will be able to decide how HIS quality of life is and I know this counts for you much more than YOUR quality of life.
I can see that this journey comes to an end. Even little Filou is 6 lb and I cannot imagine how he would be at 4 lb- be glad that Max has such big fur around his poor little frame.
I am hugging you and give only very gentle kisses to Max.

Randi

01-11-2010, 08:37 AM

Slick, my heart aches for you, I wish I could be there to give you some hugs in person, and help with everything.

I believe Max will tell you when he is not happy with his quality of life - it's just such a hard decision to let him go. :( I know you are keeping Max as comfortable as possible, and I am glad to hear that he doesn't seem to be in pain. I hope you'll still have some snuggle time with him. Give him all the lovies he will allow. I am sending gentle kisses to your dear boy, and Fister sends purrs.

Big ((((hugs)))) and lots of love. :love: :love:

Anikaca77

01-11-2010, 08:54 AM

Slick-

I'm so so sorry. You are doing what's best for him. My prays for you and Max.

Melissa

gini

01-11-2010, 12:09 PM

Slick and Max - :love::love::love: and some prayers for you both.

Cataholic

01-11-2010, 12:25 PM

Thoughts of love and prayer coming to you both. :love:

catmandu

01-11-2010, 01:59 PM

I canrot see how anyone could bash you Slick , after all that you have done to help Max regain his health.
But sadly we all have so much time on Earth and noone lives forever.
Max has you with him, and that will make becoming an Angel that much easier , knowing that you love him, and will always be there for him.
When a Found Cat passes on to Paradise , I miss them so much , but look at thier movies and remember when we were so much younger.
Prayers for You and Max from us all.:love:

slick

01-11-2010, 02:02 PM

Thank you all. You mean the world to me. I know this is nothing new to most of you, nor to me, but Max is my very first heart kitty. I loved my RB Speckles but Max, well what can I say.

Max was poked, proded and twisted every which way and he just sat there and purred. It was only when the new vet decided to peek into his mouth that I could see there was a little life left in him. Max hissed at the vet. I had to chuckle thinking, there's life in the old boy yet. However since coming back home I can see that he is on a steady decline. It's like he doesn't clue in. Last night I had to place him in front of his food dish and then his eyes kind of said, "Oh yeah, I'm supposed to eat now" and he only ate a few mouthfuls and that was it. This morning the same thing. If I put him on the floor he just stays put as if he doesn't know what to do next. My poor boy really is senile now. You can knock, but no one is home. :(

He keeps peeing outside his smaller litterbox so yesterday I went to WalMart and purchased one of those "under the bed storage bins". My friend, Elizabeth recommended it. (you've met her, Gini). So last night I filled it up and in goes Max. He thinks it's a bed. :rolleyes: Because of the peeing issues, the floor in my condo is covered with towels. I need to go and pick up some pee pads for sure. I also cleaned and removed the two larger litterboxes that he has not used for a couple of months - edges are too high for him to get in.

This morning his eyes are not as bright. :( Carole, thanks. I'll pick some up and see if he will drink it. I know I tried it on him many years ago and he wouldn't touch it, but now, maybe he won't remember he doesn't like it. Sorry, had to throw a bit of humour in it.

Better get back to work. I'll let this thread rest now. There are many others that need our attention now. The next update will probably be his memorial. :(:(

Cinder & Smoke

01-11-2010, 02:14 PM

... I'll let this thread rest now.
There are many others that need our attention now.

STICK AROUND!!

We're all with you & Max - through thick & thin!

You guys need us - We need YOU, too.
Keep us posted ... and give The Kid a *skritch* from us. :love:

:love: {{{HUGS}}} :love:

Cataholic

01-11-2010, 02:28 PM

Sometimes, what we all really need is someone to walk softly beside us, in silence.

We are all walking beside you and Max, silently, to offer you comfort, so that you are never alone. We are here, and will stay here, for you. :(

emily_the_spoiled

01-11-2010, 03:11 PM

Slick, there is nothing that any of us can say that can help you right now. Unfortunately this is never easy time, but love him as much as you can while he is here and remember that you will see him again.

Someone sent this to me earlier, while it is about a dog it can easily apply to any animal...:(

A Dog's Purpose (from a 6-year old).

Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a ten-year-old Irish Wolf hound named Belker. The dog's owners, Ron, his wife Lisa, and their little boy Shane, were all very attached to Belker, and they were hoping for a miracle.

I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer. I told the family we couldn't do anything for Belker, and offered to perform the euthanasia procedure for the old dog in their home.

As we made arrangements, Ron and Lisa told me they thought it would be good for six-year-old Shane to observe the procedure They felt as though Shane might learn something from the experience.

The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker's family surrounded him. Shane seemed so calm, petting the old dog for the last time, that I wondered if he understood what wa s going on. Within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away.

The little boy seemed to accept Belker's transition without any difficulty or confusion. We sat together for a while after Belker's Death, wondering aloud about the sad fact that animal lives are shorter than human lives. Shane, who had been listening quietly, piped up, 'I know why.' Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me. I'd never heard a more comforting explanation.

He said, 'People are born so that they can learn how to live a good Life -- like loving everybody all the time and being nice, right?' The Six-year-old continued, 'Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long.'

Taz_Zoee

01-11-2010, 03:16 PM

I was doing fine reading through the latest posts. Until I got to Slick's last line in the most recent post. Now I am in tears and hoping nobody needs anything from me here at work for a minute.

Yes, several of us have been in your shoes but it still hurts to hear someone else is experiencing it. It literally is tearing me up!

Big Hugs to you Slick.

Catty1

01-11-2010, 03:27 PM

I love both my boys, but Oscar is my heart kitty. They are hale and hearty, but the day will come...

I so feel for you, Slick. Hugs and prayers to you and Max. You have done absolutely everything for your heart kitty.

Thinking of you and Max always. :love::love::love:

katladyd

01-11-2010, 03:42 PM

I know the day will come when my :love: cat, Mac, is ready to leave me. I hope I show as much strength and wisdom as you are showing all of us, slick. My thoughts and prayers are with both of you.:love:

phesina

01-11-2010, 04:56 PM

Hugs for you, slick, and very gentle pets for Max. Your love for each other is so sweet and will never end.

momoffuzzyfaces

01-11-2010, 07:25 PM

Ah, dear friend. It's because lots of us have been through what you are going through that we know how it's tearing you up. Everyone of us wish we could make Max well and take the pain away from you both. All we can do is be here for you, whenever you may need us. :love::love:

krazyaboutkatz

01-12-2010, 01:04 AM

Slick, I wish there was something that I could say to help comfort you during this very difficult time.:( Just remember that we're all here for you and that your love for Max can never die. More prayers and hugs are coming your way. Please take care.:love:

Pinot's Mom

01-12-2010, 08:03 AM

Anikaca77

01-12-2010, 09:07 AM

Prays for you and Max.

Melissa

catmandu

01-12-2010, 05:04 PM

I know that the Awersome Angels Army will come for Michael one day, and it will be hard as hes been my constant companion the last few months, hardly ever leaving the bed in the main bedroom.
The Awesome Angels lead by Speckles are gathering for the time when they will lead Max to Paradise. Speckles is by Max's side to ease her companions fears and pain.
Dr Billy Graham wrote that we all want to be Angels, but noone wants to die and not to fear death as its a promotion to be better world.
We are saying more Prayers for Dear Max.:love:

carole

01-12-2010, 05:11 PM

Still thinking of you and Max, hoping Max is a comfortable as he can be, HUGS.

Randy_K

01-14-2010, 09:54 AM

Slick, I am so sorry poor Max is going through such health problems. I know it's so hard on him and that you will make the right decision for him but trust him to tell you when it's time for him to go.

We lost little Peaches last March to rapid renal failure. From diagnosis to the end was slightly less than seven months. When she died she was just over seven years old - far too young! I learned while we cared for Peaches that the kidneys release a hormone that stimulates red blood cell growth. Peaches was terribly anemic since her kidneys just weren't working and her vet gave her Procrit to counter the lack of that hormone stimulation. Her response was surprising. In a couple of days she went from listless to racing around and playing. That made her quality of life so much better and gave us three more good months with her before she reached the end. For four months she needed daily sub-Q, oral medications and a weekly Procrit shot. Poor little girl. She tolerated a lot to stay with us.