labradors???

[GoldenRetrLuver]

I just want to add something....MOST labs are fairly easy to train, but they are not the easiest to train, i know quite a few stubborn labs.

[cloverfdx]

99.999999999% of Labradors would rather slobber all over a burglar rather than jump for the jugular. They are not the best guard dogs. No where near as good as a Doby, Rottie, Shepherd, etc. Many Labs will bark, like all dogs, to show the tresspasser they don't like them, but after they get to know the tresspasser they are ok with them.

ok coming from someone who belive's there is such a labrador colouring such as silver

first ever dog that attacked my dog at obedience was a lab

dogs most likly to be rushed to the vets with stomach blockages (labradors)
cannot help themselve's will eat anything

[GoldenRetrLuver]

lol, one more thing...ive heard of silver labs, but technically they are not with the AKC. Breeders registered them as "chocolate labs" so they could be registered!/anyway..just thought i had to say that...

[Desert Arabian]

Originally posted by cloverfdx
ok coming from someone who belive's there is such a labrador colouring such as silver

First of all, did I get rude and snippy with you? No, so don't even start to get rude and snippy with me! I am just doing my job telling the starter of this thread the CORRECT information on Labrador Retrievers.

Yes, there are silver Labradors. They are registered as the AKC as chocolate/liver Labradors, because they are a dilution of a chocolate. Here is a website for a breeder of silvers: Silver Star Kennels

I think you should do more research instead of spouting off to people who actually do know a great deal about Labrador Retrievers.

first ever dog that attacked my dog at obedience was a lab

Oh, ok, I get it. One Labrador "attacked" your dog at training classes...so all Labradors have an attacking issue. I get ya!

lol, one more thing...ive heard of silver labs, but technically they are not with the AKC. Breeders registered them as "chocolate labs" so they could be registered!/anyway..just thought i had to say that...

WHAT!?!?! They didn't resigster them under chocolates just so silvers could be registered. They are registered under chocolates because they are diltued chocolates. I advise you to go to that silver breeder website and read the information they have on their webpage.

[Nomilynn]

I don't know much about labs, but my boyfriend's sister has a black lab named Daisy and she is the sweetest dog I've ever met! She is very hyper (she is now 8 or 9 yrs old) and LOOOVES to play. She is also very loyal to Marsha (his sister) because Marsha is the one who took her through training. She always barks to let people know that someone is coming, but I don't believe that she would hurt anyone unless she thought someone she loved was threatened. I really don't think that is a "lab" trait; most dogs who have bonded to their family would do that, in my opinion and experience.

I also don't think that people should be basing their entire opinions on the one or two dogs they have met in their lifetimes. Just because YOU met a lab with a bad owner does not mean ALL labs are bad dogs. I think YLL provided some good links with a lot of information.

[aly]

Originally posted by cloverfdx


first ever dog that attacked my dog at obedience was a lab

dogs most likly to be rushed to the vets with stomach blockages (labradors)
cannot help themselve's will eat anything

Dogs that are dog aggressive have nothing to do with their interaction with humans and nothing to do with the fact that they are "vicious" or "not friendly". I can't tell you how many hundreds upon hundreds of dog aggressive dogs I've met in the shelters who are just big mushballs with humans and would NEVER even think of even a growl towards a human. So I really don't see the connection with a dog attacking another dog meaning it would be a good guard dog (against people).

And I don't understand why you put the part about stomach blockages and eating anything in there. Not trying to be mean, just confused.

Those of you who are saying you've come across "bad" (for lack of a better word) Labs, its just a question of their upbringing and socialization. Example: You have lab puppy #1 and lab puppy #2 from the same litter. #1 goes home with a big family who lives in the city. The kids play with the puppy every day and the puppy is around the family's other dog and cats. The puppy encounters many people on the daily walks. The family also takes #1 through puppy kindegarten. #2 goes to a single old man who lives in the country. #2 never sees another dog or cat, and rarely any other people. I think everyone knows the personalities #1 and #2 will take on. #1 has been properly socialized and will greet strangers with a wagging tail and sloppy kisses. #2 will probably attack other dogs and shy away from strangers. So, for those of you judging the breed on a single dog you've met, please think about how they were raised and if they could have been socialized more. Socializing is a bigger task than most people realize so even if a large family with kids and other animals adopts a puppy, it doesn't automatically mean the puppy will grow up socialized. This is true with any breed.

I think I can weigh in on the labs' personality since for my job on a daily basis for many years, I interact with all different kinds of dogs. Granted most of them are mixes, I still see many purebreds. I'm not one who likes to generalize characteristics based on breed or sex because there's always exceptions BUT I have noticed labs adapt easier to the shelter environment and seem generally all around friendlier and more accepting. I've also assisted with temperament tests at the shelter for about a year and the only lab that failed the test failed because he was so terrified (hadn't been socialized) but not because of any aggression.

Sure, a Lab can be aggressive... so can a Poodle.. so can a Golden... so can a Bichon Frise. But I do believe that a Lab is one of the least likely breeds to become aggressive. That is my opinion based on my observations over the years. And I do think I've had enough observations and handlings to consider myself experienced.

[shais_mom]

All the labs I have met are wonderful. Not saying that there aren't cases out there where the dog is mean or whatever.
I have a Golden and she is EXTREMELY stubborn. And I would hate to see what would happen if I was ever attacked, she is very protective of me and her home, even my parents home.
Isn't it a fact that you are more likely to be bit by a Golden or a Lab? Maybe that is just b/c there are so many of them.
I think Goldens and Labs are a lot alike.
very lovable
need alot of training
can have bad genes (as all dogs can)
both are the most popular dog in the US
and stay puppies until about age 3

I am like Aly, I don't understand the blockage comment either.

[All Creatures Great And Small]

To quote your OWN signature, cloverfdx:
"there are no bad dog's , just bad owners"

anti BSL (breed specific legislation) site australia
www.edba.org.au

This website you're touting is against breed specific legislation, i.e. stereotyping breeds by behavior, and yet here you are lumping ALL Labradors into a "bad" category. You also claim to believe that there are "no bad dogs, just bad owners" - so what's your problem with Labradors? You need to think before you speak (or type).

Also, Australia should be capitalized as it is a proper noun, and there are no apostrophes in plurals, such as "dog's". An apostrophe indicates something belonging to the dog. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. I know there's spell check all over the place nowadays, but proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation still give more credibility to what the speaker is trying to say.

[NoahsMommy]

Um....I find it interesting that you are judging this breed by the two things that you "know" about them.

EVERY breed is liable to have a few bad seeds, just like with any species...humans included. You shouldn't be so closed minded.

I've known many, many labs that were wonderful! I knew one lab that was territorial, but not at all mean.

They are much easier to train than other breeds. All it takes is time...any dog that is hyper-active/unruly, doesn't have an owner with enough time!

I don't know where you get your information, but you need to look further. Are you aware that labs are quite often used as seeing eye dogs, therapy dogs, search and rescue, etc. here? I don't think that would be so if they are all as you say....

[GoldenRetrLuver]

look at this statement fom a webite:... People that breed silver labs register them as chocolate.

Silver labs are not really a breed...they are do to "cross breeding"

YLL, here is the truth behind the silver labs...

silver labs

[wolfsoul]

Silver labs are not really a breed...they are do to "cross breeding"

They don't come from cross breeding? It is just a dilute coat. They are as pure as any other labrador.

German shepherds are often diluted (blue) and they are purebred, and blue the diluted form of black in a doberman, and they are purebred as well. These dilutions don't result from cross breeding, they result from a gene from long ago suddenly showing up in a line, and showing up more as the line is constantly bred.

[binka_nugget]

yep...I think the lab would still be pure-bred...there are a few blue border collies I've seen..along with a brindle sheltie and lemon dalmations.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Ive read abou the "cross breeding" on a website about Silver Labs. Sorry, if its not true. Its just what ive read.

[binka_nugget]

ack..i think we should just get back to talking about temperment and stuff..lol...

In response to cloverfdx's comment...

first ever dog that attacked my dog at obedience was a lab

That really doesn't say anything about the breed itself. I'm sure there are many bad owners who raise "bad" dogs. There are bad representatives for every breed. I'm sure there are bad chi's, goldens, labs, collies, etc..but judging the breed on one dog alone doesn't say anything. It only shows how ignorant the person is.

[wolfsoul]

it's ok I know that I only get my info from reading too, so I suppose you could be right...But remember that every other breed has this happen too, and it can't be that they were cross bred in every case They could very well have popped some weimeraner into the blood line.. lol

Have you seen a diluted shepherd? Gorgeous...here are some pics





nice, eh?