Please sign this thank you card for our military overseas!

[Chinadoll]

Originally posted by DoggiesAreTheBest
Chinadoll, I like that picture you posted!
Here's one of my husband and I two years ago. We will be attending another Military Ball in December.


And Andrew and I on Family day.

Love the pics. For a couple years, they had the Birthday Ball on a Saturday and Family Day on Sunday. I thought it was so cruel to make everyone get up around 9 the next morning to go to Family Day. I always joked that one year one of them was going to stumble into family day with his dress blues still on from the night before and hungover. Thank goodness for the last 2 years they separated family day and the Ball into 2 different weekends.

[mugsy]

Both of you look absolutely gorgeous!! Yes, yes, there is definitely something about a man in uniform!! Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[iceyshiver21]

thats alot of numbers! wow!

[ramanth]

And the numbers keep growing! I signed the card.

The pictures some of you posted were lovely!

Thanks for the link Molly. My military and veteran friends will like it.

[mugsy]

No problem Kimmy, thank YOU for signing it. Like you said, it will mean a lot to the men and women overseas.

[Soledad]

Perhaps what you didn't read was this:

Soledad: So, while I do not support military action against Iraq, I do not condemn the soldiers who fight, as they are doing what the Government wants them to do.

I posted this on the first page, and was actually DEFENDING soldiers to begin with.

Slave: I never implied that you were against the soliders but you posted your opinion and position on a thread about soliders and the request for their support.

What? Don't you remember typing this or were you too blinded by your unsubstantiated rage?

Slave: SO if you do not like the war or the steps to get to one Fine!! Just do not let the war or the government Sway your feeling toward the soliders out there carrying out the dirty work of our political process. These people need our support. Things they do for us today give all of a secure future that all of our rights will be there for our childern and grandchildern. This is what is important and everyone should realize that!!!!

And as if that wasn't proof enough that you were accusing me, you backtracked in your following post by accusing me YET again.

Slave: By posting your opinion here your actions speak against the soliders, instead of your political view. If you do not Approve of the U.S. forcing the issue of weapons inspection in Iraq. then you have not understood Iraq's roll in the terror attacks on 9/11/01. But that is not the issue here! This Whole thread is about Our Troops Overseas in whatever capacity and that was all.

Slave: Also if you can not support your opinion without getting defensive, That is something that I can not help you with. I merely pointed out to you that your view is not rounded in all the facts.

Excuse me, but you were the one who came railing in at me with your "facts". If you would like me to get into a factual debate with you, I am more than willing, but I will not enter into one with someone who has been hostile since his first entry.


I also never said America was a bully, and I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. You are obviously unstable and I do not feel comfortable talking to you further if you continue with YOUR hostile attitude. If you want to take things down a couple of notches and actually talk about things rationally, that's great. But I assure you, I am not a novice in this area and I am not uninformed. I commend you for your service and your experience, and I am actually interested in hearing your side but not so long as you carry on in this fashion. If you noticed, this thread was fine before you came in. Sure people weren't agreeing, but they weren't shouting and throwing their weight around.

[Soledad]

Mugsy....

I have no desire to challenge your beliefs that the U.S. is the greatest country on earth. You have plenty of valid reasons to think that. The reason why I abstain from such comments is because I feel it is impossible to make such a statement as I have only lived in three countries, and have not been able to live everywhere to make a statement like that. But if you feel that way, that's great. I know a lot of others agree. I would say that out of all the places I've lived, I loved America the most. I yearn for it daily and defend it when people challenge it. But that does not mean I turn a blind eye to its faults. I love it so much, that I want to make it a better place, and complacency does not seem to be the way to accomplish that.

Mike was pretty clearly attacking me, in my opinion. I've seen things get far nastier on PetTalk over a lot less. I'm sorry you can't even see where I'm coming from, but I've already have had plenty of PMs and emails sent to me in agreement. They just don't want to be pulled into the fray.


Mugsy: Also, the catty little spelling correction was tacky.

Well, I think egregious spelling errors are tacky, especially when someone is trying to come off as "smarter than thou".

[mugsy]

Knock it off Soledad. You're talking about my husband and I do NOT want to hear it anymore. Also, please don't insult my intelligence. I am perfectly capable of reading posts and have done so since this thread started and my opinions have not changed, nor will they and I don't need to read nasty, confrontational, and catty things about my husband. And last time I checked, because we have freedom of speech in this country, he is as able to post opinions as you are. If you didn't catch it, everyone has moved on. Why don't you do the same?

[Soledad]

Geez, Mugsy...can't handle debate with anyone over thirteen?

[mugsy]

I am apologizing that a thread that I started as a tribute to the United States military has degenerated to name calling. As far as I'm concerned the discussion is over and will no longer acknowledge any posts pertaining to the negativity. Tell me I'm running away if you please, but I'm not going to lower myself to these standards any longer.

[jackiesdaisy1935]

Is there not a saying here in this wonderful country of the US of A
that goes something like "LOVE IT, OR LEAVE IT?"
By the way all you people going to the Military Balls, looked just beautiful and very handsome, our youngest daughter and Marine Corp son-in-law just went to the Marine Corp Ball also.
Jackie, Miss Daisy and Perry

[alysha19]

I SIGNED!!

[NoahsMommy]

I signed it!

All members of our US military have my full gratitude! I could never do what they do...I'm a little too sensitive for what they have to witness.

[mugsy]

Again, I thank you for signing the card. Our men and women need to know that we support them and that we appreciate the hard work they do for us everyday. The girl who originally sent the letter to me was rather disheartened because there were only 800,000 signatures. We Pet Talkers have done something about that and I'm happy to see the numbers increasing on a daily basis!!

[Cataholic]

Soledad- if you read several posts up...you will see EXACTLY what I was referring to on the other thred!!!!! I would like to say, "Out of the mouth of babes"..but that saying has a truly innocent and naive connotation. This situation calls for something along the lines of an Ostrich and the sand!!! Or, maybe Ignorance is Bliss? Either way, I think we have the right to post our opinions, but, as you called me on earlier, and I said the same thing in the other post.....you now see how I got so carried away, hmm?

People's personal experiences make their point of reference very different. I haven't ever served in the military, nor has any member of my family. In fact, none of us have ever been a public servant of any sort. I think any of our men and women in uniform-be it the armed forces, or the police/fire- deserve our support for doing a very difficult job- and maybe, sometimes, a job that goes against their own personal beliefs.