I think Ivy is going back to his breeder or original owner.

[carole]

I agree I think the breeder is concerned for Ivy's welfare and that is a good thing, it is a toughie alright, but i think i would keep him myself, honestly judging by the many people here including myself who have kitties with heart murmurs they rarely have many problems, but of course Ivy might be the exception, you really do have to weigh up the pros and cons,and do what is best for you and Ivy in the long run.

[jennielynn1970]

For now I'm just going to think about it for a couple days.
Maybe make a pro and con list for what's best for Ivy myself and Ducky.

I think you need to take yourself and Ducky out of the equation and focus on what is best for IVY.

Will you be able to care for him if his condition worsens? How much are you and your family willing and able to afford?

I'd contact the breeder and see what you can do about the shipping, and decide on the date if you cannot or do not want to have a pet that may be sick for his entire life. He may have good days, and he may have bad days, but that is reality.

Do what is best for IVY. That really doesn't take pros or cons. That takes one decision. Do you want to have him live a life with you, knowing that he may become very sick at some point in the near, or not so near, future? If so, keep him and love him for the sweet boy his is, and know that it may be a long life, but it may not. Or do you want to have the breeder to take care of him and find out exactly what is wrong (if that is what she was saying she would do). If she would not keep him but have him PTS, I think I'd keep him!

[krazyaboutkatz]

Alicia, I'm sorry to hear about Ivy. This is a very difficult decision and you really need to think about what's best for Ivy. I'm sure that we'll all support you with whatever decision you decide. If it was me, I'd probably just keep him and give him lots of love and attention and try to keep him as comfortable as possible with whatever time you may have with him.

[caffeitina]

No! No! No!...PLEASE don't give Ivy back to the breeder. From the sounds of things, they never really took care of him properly there With you, Ivy has a comfortable and loving home, and losing that would be very traumatic for the little guy and, probably, negatively impact the delicate condition he's already in My vote is PLEASE TRY to keep Ivy.

Maybe you can talk to your vet, the one who is a friend of the family. Ask if you can work out a payment plan to cover the bills for Ivy's testing and treatment. I'm certain he would be open to the idea...couldn't hurt to ask.

Or maybe your parents can help you out a little as this is a medical emergency concerning a family member (Moms and Dads are usually good for stuff like that).

Either way, please try to do what's best for Ivy--both healh wise and emotionally. I'll keep my fingers crossed that everything turns out for the best

[Catty1]

Caffeitina - the breeder sold Ivy to another owner, and it was THAT owner that treated Ivy so badly.

The breeder did NOT want Ivy to go back there.

If Buttercup wants to talk to her vet about just treating symptoms, then it might be worth keeping Ivy, and keeping him on a med or two.

I can't see the breeder having Ivy shipped all the way back to her just to have Ivy PTS. Makes no sense.

[caffeitina]

Caffeitina - the breeder sold Ivy to another owner, and it was THAT owner that treated Ivy so badly.

The breeder did NOT want Ivy to go back there.

If Buttercup wants to talk to her vet about just treating symptoms, then it might be worth keeping Ivy, and keeping him on a med or two.

I can't see the breeder having Ivy shipped all the way back to her just to have Ivy PTS. Makes no sense.

Oops. I misunderstood (there were a lot of posts to go through to get the whole story). I'm sorry

[Catty1]

NP! I find it hard to be a speed reader myself!

[moosmom]

The things you need to ask yourself are these:

Is he suffering?
Is he using the litterbox?
Is he eating?

If not, then JennLibrarian is right...

If she would not keep him but have him PTS, I think I'd keep him!

AS LONG AS HE'S NOT SUFFERING. That is what's in Ivy's best interest.

There's your answer.

[mrspunkysmom]

Another option is to keep him and ask the breeder for a refund to pay for medical expenses. She knowingly sold you a cat in poor health while representing him as good health.

Just my take.

[jennielynn1970]

Another option is to keep him and ask the breeder for a refund to pay for medical expenses. She knowingly sold you a cat in poor health while representing him as good health.

Just my take.

She didn't get Ivy from the breeder. She got Ivy from the 2nd owner from what I understand. The first owner bought from the breeder, then that owner sold him to a 2nd owner, who then sold him to Alicia.

I have no idea who she'd get a "refund" from... unless she filed a claim in small claims court, to recapture the money she has spent on a "healthy" cat, only to find out she was taken advantage of. That way maybe she could bet reimbursed for the expenses, and keep Ivy and have more money in the end to help with his health?? Not sure how small claims courts work in her state.

I'd just be worried what a breeder would do with what they would declare a "defective" cat. It's usually not a happy ending.

[buttercup132]

I re assure you she will NOT put Ivy to sleep as long as he is in no pain.
Why would a breeder do that anyways?

Maybe you can talk to your vet, the one who is a friend of the family. Ask if you can work out a payment plan to cover the bills for Ivy's testing and treatment. I'm certain he would be open to the idea...couldn't hurt to ask.

I couldn't do that anyways they can't do anything for him at that vet. He needs to see a specialist he said. So he would have no control over it.

[jennielynn1970]

I re assure you she will NOT put Ivy to sleep as long as he is in no pain.

Why would a breeder do that anyways?

Oh my, there are many things you will learn about breeders, and they are not all happy. You would be amazed at what some of them will do with what they determine to be a "defective" cat... one they can't sell, or breed or whatever. Those cats are of no use to many of them, and a lot of times, if they can't find someone to keep them as pets, they have them put to sleep.

Breeders are not always the best places around. That's why many of us are PRO-RESCUE... and would rather have a shelter cat than buy an overpriced one from a breeder. It's just supporting the over breeding of cats when there are already so many cats without homes.

Look into the whole puppy mill and cat breeding lifestyle... you'll want to throw up. Granted there are reputable breeders out there, but for every reputable one, there are probably 9 others that are not.

[buttercup132]

Sorry for no updates. I got into a bit of a tussle with the breeder and she sent a pretty hurtful email back. For now I would like to keep it to myself what it was about but just thought I'd fill you guys in a little.

[Anikaca77]

Dear..you have a hard decision to make...it's never easy and I understand what you mean about being young and not expecting this to ever happen...You will make the right decision for you Duckie and Ivy....

Please take time is the best decision and take care of yourself and those babies...

Sorry for no updates. I got into a bit of a tussle with the breeder and she sent a pretty hurtful email back. For now I would like to keep it to myself what it was about but just thought I'd fill you guys in a little.

[heidiv]

What a dear sweet little kitty!! I have been away for sometime but if you don't mind me asking did Ivy cost big$$$$$????? I am sure that he did if he is a hairless kitty aren't they prone to allergies in general???? I guess I would go that route first if I had to make the decition. See if that is a possibility????? Going back to his breeder might not be the best thing for him. Is there a hairless rescue in your area that could take him if you aren't out a ton of money? I understand how much of a pickle you feel you are in right now I wouldn't know what to do either. But I am thinking that if possibly it could be something else I would see if that is at all a possibility and then go from there. There are a ton of groups out there that could possibly help him. Man if I could, I would consider taking him and giving him a good life for as long as I could. Let me get on line with a purebred rescue lady that I know from my state of Wisconsin and see if this might be an option it they would take care of him. I will just ask and see what I find out????? I am here for you no judgements this has got to be a hard thing to be dealing with. Support only from this girl. ((((HUGS)))) for the distress this must be causing you. Let me do my work and I will get back to you soon! Give that little sweety a big hug from me.