Yes Richard I have been totally blown away by your comments, now mate you know I have the utmost respect for you, and I like to consider us friends, but mate you are way out of line in this thread, just MO.

No-one should be so defensive here, the facts are the facts, we can go on comparing our country with another, but whatever excuses we come up with,it does not change the problem, we all need to work together on this, and make the changes needed to ensure a better future for the next generation.

Putting people down, being sarcastic, because they dare to criticise your administration, just seems rather immature to me,I am not proud of everything my country stands for or does, and I would be the first person to say so.

Jonza has not made this an anti-american thread, by any means, he has made valid points, and just because he is British, there is no need for name calling, he is stating facts, and backing up his comments as I see it.

I vaguely remember a summit being held some time back, where our country and others and of course America were involved, and America would not agree to participate, our country did and others, and it was to do with pollution and the enviroment, I cannot for the life of me remember the details, but if anyone can shed light on it for me, great.