know what?? she may just be from that breeder after all, the one I was goin gto get my bun from, I guess she was found stray near where that breeder is, if the buns were released there then that would explain where all the buns at the shelter came from, there were mini rex there as well a broken castor and a charlie baby, both of which this breeder had, they disapere and all of a sudden ones just like them show up as strays at the shelter this breeder had borken orange holland lops exactly like kari hmmm I have the resent litter picture saved to my computer I will look at those babies then at mine, but I am thinking she just let them loose, and as luch would have it one from the litter I wanted one from shows up at the shelter and then at my house I will let ya know what I find!