I certainlt didn't mean for this to tirn into a bash cockers thread (not that it has), but I have expereince with only one cocker. He is sweet with people, but doesn't like other dogs.

My point (which I think most understood) was that just becuase someone says they are a trainer, doesn't mean they have the right methods. An dthe right methods may be different for every individual and dog. Personally, I believe in postive reward, not negative punishment. Please, before you use any trainer, make sure you are comfortbal with the training methods